i do appreciate you letting us know that your review was full of spoilers, i made it all the way to the day of the film to be released before i got spoiled, huge improvements over part 3 and 4, maybe next year ill actually get all the way through part 6.

:( So so disappointed to see that the movie has such a negative review from you as I trust what you are saying. However, I will go into the theater later with an open mind and decide for myself...If it is as bad as you're saying then I really think they need to take a break and give the finale (IF IT IS), SAW VI, a bit more time, care and attention rather than rushing it out...I completely agree with you though, without Jigsaw and Amanda it's not really SAW...And I love the fact that you mentioned that she was cruelly dissolved from the last movie, she really was...We'll see how it is later, still excited though! :)

I honestly LOVED the film, it was so similar in style to the others, and filled in all sorts of loose ends. I also loved the conclusion of the film, and the characters were great. It was awesome to see Julie Benz in the film. I'd say it's the second best in the series, very close to being the best. Maybe just behind Saw II.

TOTAL CRAP. IS IT TOO MUCH TO WANT A GOOD MOVIE?

First one i've been disappointed with. And Hackl is a lousy director. I may not have always liked everything Bousman (or even Wan) did in the films, but at least they had style, and Bousman did a damn good (and often unmentioned) job of making each of his films look unique with their color schemes and such while still looking like a "Saw" film. But this was shot with all the effort of an episode of Law & Order.

PFFFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAH I fucking knew it. should of kept it in their pants after the second. this franchise is garbage

That's great, Calvaire. Two negative reviews and you're vindicated. Sad. Anyway, sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it, Mr. D. You and I don't always see eye to eye on new films, though, so I'm not too bothered by this review. The only thing disheartening is hearing you say that the franchise has gone stale, as though no amount of improvement in Part VI could "save" the series from this film's shortcomings. I guess that's the curse of the fan mentality - one misstep, no matter how large or small, means the party's over forever. It's a good thing the film industry doesn't share that view. On the plus side, you have set the bar nice and low for SAW V with this review. Hardcore SAW fans and casual viewers reading how disappointing and bereft of entertainment value it is will go in expecting very little and, in many cases, will come out thinking "That wasn't so bad." No matter how spot on a bad review is (and I'll find out for myself tomorrow), that always happens with highly anticipated releases.

thanks, mr. d. your review is much appreciated...

'Kay .. Let's go through this *ONE* ... *ONE* more time .. Does the beginning of IV take place *AFTER* V??? Is it part of VI? The ending was a kick to my balls. Many people feel the same.

(With "the beginning of IV", I mean the autopsy-scene .. To set the record straight ..

Can anyone name a successful Meagan Good movie out there? Me neither. I think she was totally out of her realm with this flick and should stay out of acting, acting isn't for her. Sad, but true.

The only one of these movies that was even some what good was three. One had a cool concept but C.Elweys was so bad in it and what the fuck happened to Danny glover?

Korollocke, it's not too much to want a good movie. It is, on the other hand, too much to want every movie (especially sequels/remakes in franchises you're apparently not a fan of) to be perfect. It's also too much to declare everything that isn't entirely to your liking "total crap" - particularly if (as I suspect is the case here) you haven't even seen it yet. Finally, it is apparently too much for your fellow B-Ders to expect you to like anything, give anything a chance, or refrain from taking pointless shots at movies we already know you probably won't like anyway.

A few more thoughts... Mr. D wrote: "SAW V was boring, dull and tedious to watch." Only fair to point out that "dull", "tedious", and "boring" all mean exactly the same thing. No need to say the same thing three times in one sentence. Mr. D went on to say: "We get various shots from previous scenes in the film connecting all of the dots. I couldn’t help but giggle and think, “I was sitting right here, why did I need a recap of what just happened?” It was like watching the intro to a show after a commercial break…" So this film ends like all of the others, with a montage of stuff we've already seen to punctuate the big reveal? I have to wonder why a professed fan of the previous four films, all of which did this exact same thing in the closing moments, would find the narrative device so laughable in Part V. Doesn't make much sense to decide at Part V that you find the conventions of the franchise ineffective, after cheerfully accepting them on four previous occasions. Finally, I must respond to the complaint that the film spends too much time focusing on Hoffman and Strahm, and not enough on Jigsaw. One of the great things about the SAW series is that its antagonist is dying through the first three installments, but has meticulously laid plans for his work to go on. If the series is to continue, sooner or later the focus has to shift to his successor. There are only so many flashbacks you can do before "prequelitis" sets in and the bloated backstory becomes unbelievable. The alternative then is bringing Jigsaw himself back to life, which would completely undermine any sense of realism the series had achieved up to this point. Your buddy's FRIDAY THE 13TH PART V quip might have given you a chuckle, but it's not entirely accurate. In the F13 series, Jason didn't purposefully train someone to continue his killing spree once he died, so the producers had to make up a copycat out of thin air. In the SAW mythos, Jigsaw deliberately set the stage for a successor, and eventually that successor's work has to become the focus of the story.

I haven't seen the movie yet but I will in a few hours but this is my thought on the entire saw francise. Saw I-III is their own series. Saw IV-VI is gonna be another. Tho we all love Jigsaw but you can't do much with a deadman, they did a good enough job with involving him in the IV. It seems like they did the best the could with involving Jigsaw in V. But Detective Hoffman now holds the key. Amanda was apart of I-III as well Jigsaw. Tho they were still "alive" in IV, the movie itself didn't revolve around them, it just opened the door showing us the puzzle is much bigger than we thought. It could be just me but i think us as a viewer has hyped up the saw films way too much. Because of the great ending of the first one, we hope that each film can compete with that and it can't. But from every review I have read, it just seems to me everyone is just upset with the fact Jigsaw is dead and the film truely doesn't surround him. Maybe that has ruined the francise or maybe thats just all part of the game.

can it get worse - some of the early parts of the film occur before/during Saw II, but otherwise it takes place after IV.

I'm sorry, but the negative reviews ARE justified. Don't blame David Hackl. 1st time he's behind the camera as a FULL director. Cut the guy some slack. A director can only direct what the WRITERS produce! This is such a weak script, its laughable. Julie Benz must have only did it for the money, because i cant see another reason. These guys may have wrote saw III (my personal favorite) saw IV, feast one and two, but if this is a prelude to what they are gonna do to hellraiser? then holy shit!

UH DUH!!!! I could've told you this piece of shit was going to suck!!!!!!!!!

saw five was good it is less gore but it explians everything that has happened not leaving ?????? yes this makes it a better writen film then the first 4 but all in all mr d. this is the first time i have to say i disagree with ya i thought the game in this one tho it was not a pivital roll this time was very creative and the story in this one was very much saw worthy

Should've ended at three.

Well after seeing it today, it is true that I am by no means blown away by it like I was at the end of the incredible SAW III but it is nowhere near as bad as the official review...It's a fucking improvement on SAW IV, thats for sure and I think it's a decent entry...far fetched? A little but for fucks sake, its a movie...why does every single thing have to be nit picked at?! I wish everyone would stop jumping on the I hate SAW bandwagon and actually try to give an opinion by watching it rather than just posting a comment saying its shit when you probably havent even seen it... ROLL ON SAW VI MOTHERFUCKERS!

they didnt write III....

'Kay ... From what I have made up, *DO* correct me if you think I'm wrong, but ... From what I have made up, there were a total of at least 7 ... I repeat, 7 twists..

*1;Strahm would've survived if he just listened to the tape and had gotten in the glass box. Similar to Eric Matthews' test in SAW II, it turned out to be all about Strahm. *2;If the 5 people would've worked together as a team, no-one would die. The keys would've released everyone.

*3;It totally changes the way you looked at all the previous SAW-movies. *4;Hoffman was already an apprentice before Amanda. *5;For the first time in a SAW-movie, the infamous 'Game Over'-quote isn't to be said or heard.