Now we're back on track...
11:17am, July 24, 2009
I am very encouraged by the recent turn of events on this board. Now we seem to have gotten back on track to discuss the films instead of flinging insults. I appreciate everyone pitching in to make the change and our ability to monitor ourselves. I don't mind a difference of opinion; in fact it makes for lively discussion. What bothers me is when the discussion ceases to be informative. After all, that is where this board becomes helpful to me. There have been changes to the movies that came directly from comments I read here.
Thank you to all of you for doing your part.
Yesterday, we showed you a picture and Comic Con poster of Freddy. People have been freaking out. We have never had a better response to anything that we have revealed. It is so exciting that so many people are excited by the imagery of Freddy. You should know that we were going to release a different poster - and at the last minute we threw a flag on the play and decided to go with the one you now see. I know that you'll ask so let me say that the other poster was very similar, but much more polished, and it didn't feel like it "fit."
Tomorrow morning I am heading to comic con for what I hope will be an amazing experience. We do have another surprise that we will reveal there. It should be a crazy day, but if you are interested I plan on twittering all day long. So check that out at @bcfuller.
We'll discuss everything after Comic Con.

 | brooklynpsycho 12:04pm, July 24, 2009
I just want to thank you and the rest of the team at PD for bringing back Freddy the way he's meant to be portrayed. Scary, brutal, and relentless. And I also want to thank you for changing the release date to April 30th, two days after my birthday. My birthday gift, the best ever. |
 | Englundisfreddy 12:11pm, July 24, 2009
I have been against this remake since its announcement. Though, I am still not completely onboard, I am warming up to the idea after I got a chance to meet Robert Englund in CT last month. I flat out asked him what he thought about the remake and asked if given the chance would he ever play Freddy again. He said "O come on guys, look at me." as in saying he might be too old. Although I don't think he is, knowing that he may not be interested in playing Freddy again (although maybe deep down somewhere he wants to, even just a little bit haha)it makes the remake a little easier to swallow. And, I will say, everything I have seen/heard about looks/sounds really good. So, that being said, I wish this movie well. |
 | brooklynpsycho 12:13pm, July 24, 2009
And also the poster is amazing and love the new pic of Freddy. He looks so damn scary. The less we see of him, the scarier. Great shot! Would also love to see hi-res pics of the cast (With Nancy's house in the background) like you did with TCM & Friday the 13th. |
 | cigarzombie 12:28pm, July 24, 2009
I am always for remakes. I still watch Nightmare on Elm Street and it will always be one in my top 5 favs. However, It's not scary anymore and it can get boring since I did see it well over 500 times. So just to see a new concept is to me a real treat. I thank you guys for bringing back the dead. It gives me something to look forward also.
Just dont ever go the other way with these films and you know which way I am saying. Another good road to travel is take away beautiful people in these movies. Sometimes I dont know if its a Abercrombie ad or a horror movie. But its your movie so do what you want no matter what I will be in the theaters to see you films for the remainder of my life. |
 | disanti 12:35pm, July 24, 2009
I think everything looks great. That being said, I hope it translates into the movie. Everyone PD movie I have seen has looked really good and has been shot very well. Once again I'll bring up Friday for the reason for how good it looked, but how the story seemed to hallow out. I blame that on the Director because it's his missions to keep the story at the forefront of the movie. I'm hoping that you guys are on Bayer, who seems to be working very hard, on not only making this movie LOOK good, but also tell an amazing story. We're past the days when you can just put someone on a screen who slaughters 12 people. As time moves on, movies have to evolve, and I expect a little more out of the remakes because you have a chance to see where the old series made mistakes. More than anything, I want to see this next year and I want to be told an amazing story. |
 | Freddyisking 12:46pm, July 24, 2009
Everything is looking good, to me anyway. Only request I have is that whatever you guys show at Comic-Con, please make it available online for those of us unable to attend. Nothing more frustrating than hearing all about how cool something looked and having to settle for a crappy vid someone snuck out of the showing room. |
 | disanti 12:50pm, July 24, 2009
Also, glad to see people are warming up to JEH and not just spouting off about Englund. |
 | psyXcho 1:22pm, July 24, 2009
personally I thought the poster looked like a sequel to "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" but I am still psyched for the movie. I loved TCM and Friday so I know you guys will do a good job. I'll miss Robert as Freddy but I think it was time to pass the torch. The above pic kicks ass so it'll be a long wait to April, at least it's not January, that alone means someone has faith in the movie. |
 | Evilin666 1:27pm, July 24, 2009
I grew up on Freddy. And until yesterday, literally, I really didn't know JEH. So, I didn't really have much faith in JEH playing Freddy until I watched Watchmen. He has the look, so he can walk the walk but can he talk the talk? I'd like to see Freddy updated. What was scary in the 80's is not exactly scary now. I thought that the updated personality and visual effects of Freddy in The New Nightmare was spot on. More Evil. Robert Englund is the man, don't get me wrong, but he brought a lot more "cheese" to the role and made Freddy more likable and less scary. I'm not saying take the cheese out totally, just tone it down a bit. |
 | Pat34 1:39pm, July 24, 2009
Hello Brad, I am so very anxious about this new 'A Nightmare On Elm Street' film. My boyfriend and I love horror movies and love the fact that you (Platinum Dunes) are bringing our beloved classics back to the big screen. Friday the 13th was awesome and we look forward to it's sequel. We know this, NOES, will be just as good. The best of luck with this one and we can't wait until April! |
 | clubnick 1:59pm, July 24, 2009
Hey Brad. Good luck with Freddy at Comicon. The poster looks very good. No hard feelings about F13 3-D; I can only hope that you will one day read it sooner than later. All the Best, -Nick |
 | Jerkofwonder 2:29pm, July 24, 2009
First off... let me say that your version of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is my favorite horror movie of all time. I think your version of The Amityville Horror is far better than the original. And I really enjoyed your version of Friday The 13th. Now everything about Nightmare looks GREAT, but I am hearing that Robert Englund does not even have a cameo? I remember following this movie since the beginning and both you and Robert have said you would love to have him in one... Why didn't it happen? What gives? |
 | Deathbat 2:32pm, July 24, 2009
I don't like remakes, never have, never will but this one I'm really excited about. It looks like you're rejuvanating a classic horror icon, taking him back to the roots, making him the scary creature that brought me heavily into horror as a teen. So far I have no reason to doubt that this will be an utterly terrific remake and I am greatly looking forward to it.
The images of Freddy that we've been shown thus far have been absolutely fantastic. Just enough to whet my appetite, not so much that they've taken away all the anticipation.
Basically, so far, this movie's looking like you can't go wrong. Looking forward to being proven right in April. |
 | megalodonbite 2:47pm, July 24, 2009
Brad, thanks for the pics and I'm glad we are back on point with this board and what its truly all about. Hopefully the nonsense will remain in the gutter where it belongs and we can move on to better things. Okay, Freddy looks AWESOME. Yes, he is a little short as others claim him to be compared to the original but no worries...this is a remake and we embrace changes. Look at how better Leatherface looked compared to the original when you guys got a hold of em?!? Who can argue with that? I think his face will be the most significant factor and I'm actually glad that you didn't completely reveal his face in these pics because we need that surprise for the film. Most importantly, now that the film is completed...my one hope is that you didn't hold back Brad. TCM Beginning proves what you really can get away with in theaters! Let them slap on their little gay NC-17 rating at first and then work your magic to an R film. You've done it before, you can do it again. Some people want Freddy to be comical, etc...but hey, you have countless films with to watch again for that. Only a BRUTAL, scary as shit Freddy is what is going to have everyone telling each other "you have to go see this film, its insane!" Its been a long time since I've been to the theater and have actually had this feeling and if anyone can pull it off its you guys. I have true faith that this film will do what F-13 couldn't and we are all counting down the days. Thanks for all you guys do!
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 | the birkhill slasher 3:04pm, July 24, 2009
Wow, what a turn around.Even over on the Nightmareonelmstreetfilms.com forum the overwellming response has been positive which it definitely wasn't just a few months ago.This movie had to happen and it had to happen without Englund so well done for sticking to your guns and going with the new guy who looks great as Freddy.Im getting a real Freddys Revenge vibe from that pic.Still dissapointed that Freddy was a child molester and not child murderer or even both.I think it's important that Freddy used that glove to kill before his death.There was a few other things in that leaked script that i really didn't like but im starting to feel hopefull that a truely scary Freddy again is gonna make all those things easier to bear.Overall im far more confident than i was a few days ago. Just wish i didn't have to wait a whole 9 months.Oh and please bring back Charles Bernsteins original score fr part of the movie at least. |
 | keepin It Reel 4:46pm, July 24, 2009
Refreshing to see more positivity on this board. Even some of the people who were against this film in the beginning have become a little more supportive of it.Almost a complete 180.Now about "F13", which some people here still seem a little soar about. Let me just say that for the most part, I really enjoyed the new one, and personally thought it was better than all the previous "Friday" films. Someone here said it was the fault of the director, and at least you're not blaming the production company itself, when they simply put fourth the money and oversaw the production. Personally, I like Marcus Nispel's horror films, and I think his films are refreshing in the sense that they aren't you're conventional horror flicks relying on cliche's and jump scares. Now for "F13" you must realise that he had a lot to handle. It was a complete reboot, and they changed some things about the Jason character, thus they had to reintroduce him in a sense. While Jason came out great, it seemed as though they spent most of their time developing him (and probably had to), and that's why they couldn't focus quite as much on the character's. And if it weren't enough that they were faced with the task of improving the Jason character, they also had to cater to the early series slightly, to pay their respects(Kind of how Rob Zombie had to do with "Halloween"). But now they are free to do what they want, and now that the new Jason has been established, they are free next time to focus on character development, and just completely cut loose. Now another thing I'd like to adress is something that I believe a lot of horror fans, myself included, are feeling at the moment.(And this is no reflection on any of PD films, or any one particular film in general) Frankly, I think people are tired of seeng the same old tricks used in horror films. We're tired of seeing all kinds of un necessary sex and nudity. We're tired of two-dimensional character's who after it's all over, you end up wanting to die because they're such shallow assholes that no one can relate to. Were tired of overly done gore, because you don't create fear with gore, you just create disgust because we've seen it all before and its lost it's shock value.(I'm not saying no gore at all, just a realistic amount, and not just pouring on the buckets of blood). Also, Hollywood to this day, are still recycling the same old slasher film scares that were established in the 70's. Those might have worked for films like the origional "Halloween", but it's been run into the ground and now horror films have lost our trust. When someone jumps out of nowhere whith a knife, we expect that. When the killer goes down, and get's right back up, we know that;s gonna happen. So just for future reference, if you want to really scare anyone, you're going to have to come up with a completely new set of tricks that will catch everyone off guard. Look at Rob Zombie's "Halloween", while I didn't particularly like the film itself, the kills were amazing ! He went in the complete opposite of Carpenter, and instead of just having Michael jump out of the darkness and stab people in one quick swoop, the killings were more drawn out. Instead os being surprised for two seconds, you sat there and had to watch Michael butcher these people in some horrible ways, and I found myself squirming in my seat the entire time.It was like watching a train wreck in progress (In a good way), and there was just nothing you could do but watch it happen.Classic. But anyways, that was just my two cents, and good luck with Comic-Con Platinum Dunes. Cheers ! |
 | knifegloves.com 4:54pm, July 24, 2009
Hey Brad... I'm thrilled to see the overwhelmingly positive responses thus far and also to see some of the naysayers warming up to the idea.
Especially since Robert Englund has publicly stated that he supports this remake and wants to see it done with today's technology. He also endorses JEH to take up the reigns so what more confirmation does anyone need for a remake than coming from Freddy himself?
Everything I've seen thus far (CAN'T wait to see the Comic Con footage!) is fantastic. I love the new glove and am so glad to see Freddy going back to his evil days and truly scaring us once again... hopefully it will be even scarier than the original! Wish you all the best in post production! |
 | DogCarcass 5:08pm, July 24, 2009
This might just be the return of one of the greatest horror icons ever. I want to see the comic con footage! Hope it comes out soon! |
 | The Todge 5:43pm, July 24, 2009
Hi Brad
This is my first time commenting here and since you asked for constructive comments I'll do my best.
I will start out with something positive. I've seen the pictures released and the poster and am glad you have kept the essential iconic look of Freddy. Remaking something which is one off like The Thing, there's much more room for interpretation, but for an established franchise whose mythology is pretty much set in stone, any new effort needs to be recogniseably that. You made it over the first hurdle that Rob Zombie fell over when he remade Halloween, so kudos.
Kudos too, (at least going on what you've said) for avoiding the wisecracking Freddy. I think the existing fanbase of the franchise would have trouble accepting anybody but Englund in that particular role.
On that note, I think it is incredibly brave of you to keep the look of the character we know and love while trying to reimagine it. Because Freddy was only successfully reimagined in New Nightmare because it was a COMPLETE diversation from anything else in the series. The route you have taken could succeed brilliantly or fail miserably.
My main sticking point with the upcoming film however has little to do with the film itself. Perhaps you have addressed this elsewhere (I haven't seen it) or maybe somebody else has asked you (again I havent seen it.) And If I'm wrong then perhaps you can clarify things for me.
Wes Craven has no involvement with the film right? And from what I've heard, you didn't even ask him to be involved. Now ok, technically you didn;t have to, to get the project because as we know, he sold the rights to New Line in order to get the first film made. So of course, you don't have to involve him. HOWEVER if this is true, then the sheer lack of courtesy and respect for the man, whose creation you claim to love, makes me hesitant to give the film my time. And I know others who feel the same. I mean does it take a lot of effort to pick up the phone? Again if this information is wrong, please corect me.
And also regarding your comment about the box office showing that viewers want to see your films, that may be true, but it's not an indicator of quality is it? The Da Vinci Code made something like 800 million worldwide but was panned outright by damn near everybody who saw it.
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 | keepin It Reel 6:32pm, July 24, 2009
A question for Mr. Fuller- When will we people at home get to see the footage or teaser trailer shown at Comic-Con today? And about Freddy himself, will he still have that same deep, demonic-sounding voice that he had in the origional series ? |
 | glassman99 6:41pm, July 24, 2009
Why are you not releasing the trailer? Its already been described all over the internet. Please just let it play for those of us that couldnt make it to SDCC . Just a little somethin' to hold us over for a while . Please . |
 | disanti 6:58pm, July 24, 2009
Yes! Post the Preview! I got stuck here in Santa Monica while our receptionist got dragged down to SD so she could hand out cards for our company's booth! Show the video...some of us have jobs!!! |
 | keepin It Reel 7:06pm, July 24, 2009
This is for "The Todge". The most likely reason that Platinum Dunes did not call up Wes Craven for his blessing or approval is because they knew he wasn't going to give it no matter what. He has already previously stated that "NOES" is the one film of his that he didn't want remade at all, regardless of who was making it. Had Platinum Dunes called him, not only would he not have given his blessing, but then it would've looked even more disrespectful if they went ahead and remade it anyway. The only way Craven would have been pleased is for this film not to have been made at all. I have said many times of that to be pretty arrogant on Mr. Craven's part for one reason. While he did give birth to the franchise, once he released it and it developed a fan base, it ceased to belong to him, and it now belongs to the people. "Nightmare on Elm Street" has become much bigger than Craven. Audiences and fans are the ones who truely have ownership over Freddy, and they absolutley disserve it. For without them, the origional movie would not have been as sucessful, and ultimately wouldn't have become apart of pop culture. And it is my understanding that Wes Craven did not want any sequels to be made after the origional. That's why he refused to have anything to do with them, and then did "New Nightmare", to kind of erase them.(Not to mention he trashed all the sequels in "Scream".) So do we just not ever make another "Elm Street" film and please one man who kind of abandoned the franchise, or do we do right by the fans who have truely supported Freddy every step of the way? And about Craven being forced to give up the rights to the origional back in 1984 due to a lack of options, I completely understand that. But everyone else must realise that had he been able to keep his rights, there would never have been one sequels to that film. And had he gotten his right's back (Which he could have at the very least attempted to do), he wouldn't have remade the movie himself, he'd have just let the rights sit so that no one else could remake it either, which is pretty selfish. Then no one would ever see Freddy on the big screen ever again, and my generation would not have been given the chance to love and appreciate "NOES", like you all did. So for that, I'd like to extend my thanks to Platinum Dunes for doing right by us. |
 | nxtwwewomenschamp 7:13pm, July 24, 2009
This poster is amazing and it just makes me even more excited for the movie! I seriously don't know if I can wait till next year to see it. I am super excited! |
 | ctchadwick 8:23pm, July 24, 2009
The original is my all time favorite movie in the world, and I've never been repulsive to remakes, but I really am disappointed they are remaking this one. Expensive advertising, like the one sheet, the staged pictures, or the new comic con footage shown can all look good and awesome and cool, but it's not going to govern whether the movie is good or pathetically lame, cliché, and down-right terrible from story to characters. Don't get me wrong, I really want them to prove me 110% wrong, but they did the exact same the thing with Friday the 13th with advertising and such and the movie turned out to be a complete failure, the characters all seemed to be expendable, predictable, and thinner than cardboard -- they had absolutely nothing to them and I could care less which one was picked off next. It was basically another sequel with a new bunch of kids that are slaughtered. If it is a REMAKE of an ORIGINAL movie then the remake actually has to be original -- and I'm sad to say it wasn't in the least. Which leads me to say that the real main problem with remakes is that people pick up the idea because they know: # 1 It makes money (proved time and time again it sells to remake a classic, whether they deny it or not it's the MONEY!), second is it's the perfect scape goat for upcoming directors, actors, writers, etc. to have their name known and gain extra fame through a well-known name, in this case NOES, and lastly and most importantly is with the knowledge of all this above, the select people behind these remakes don't spend their time wisely on key elements that made the originals ACTUALLY good! They spend their time on the ONLY thing they know: the iconic character that made it famous, the killer. When they do this they ignore character development, and key storytelling elements that are absolutely essential to making a good film (but it doesn't matter to them, it makes the $$$ either way) and us unintelligent fans buy into the whole idea and flock to the theaters anyway (even though truthfully I will also probably go see it in theaters just because it's my favorite film). I have even more confirmed faith that the film will disappoint because we all have past proof of several terrible remakes before this one (all under the belt of the same ones in charge of the NOES remake), otherwise I wouldn't be so quick to judge. The film is already wrapped up so I know that nothing is going to be undone what already is done. I just want everyone to open their eyes and not be so brainwashed by the same filth that drew us in time and time before! Message to those involved in my favorite movie remake: PROVE ME WRONG PLEASE! |
 | rusted31 8:55pm, July 24, 2009
Im liking what i'm seeing so far. The poster, the logo and the first pic of JEH as Krueger are hitting the mark as far as i'm concerned. I know myself i've been extremely criticial of PD and their movies but hey, i'm just a passionate fan who wants to see things done right and this looks to me as if it's being done right. Fingers crossed the movie delivers a chilling and wonderful experience for all us NOES fans. |
 | The Todge 9:10pm, July 24, 2009
A response to keepin it Reel.
Let me respond to some of your points.
1. Regarding Craven's involvement. I disagree with this notion that the ownership of a property is given to a fanbase just because they embraced it. And that a film-maker essentially gives up all control once he releases it into the world. The reason Craven didn't want to make any sequels is because he didn't want to see the quality dip. As a result of Robert Shaye's well documented greed, he had to compromise. This results in the weakest point of the original Nightmare, the car being driven away under Freddy's power. It renders Nancy's struggle entirely pointless just to craft a hook for a sequel. Now I understand there is a solid group of fans who love the sequels. I however, don't. Freddy's Revenge is abysmal, the only interesting point being the morbidly curious gay subtext, which was apparently unintentional. Dream Master suffers from weaker than weak acting, an incredibly annoying electronic drawl behind Freddy's voice and a weird atmosphere that doesn't really fit. Dream Child is undoubtedly the worst, with an interesting concept and visual design but no body count (which is really what it turned into at that point.) I can't stand to watch it. And Freddy's Dead, it's fine as a black comedy, but not a horror film. Dream Warriors however (again with Craven's involvement) is bang on the money, inventive, atmospheric, funny, entertaining, with great deaths and one liners. It retains the core protaganist and raises the stakes, expands nicely on the backstory and mythology. Hugely satisfying. New Nightmare of course is a complete 180. A complete re-working in order to break away from the restraints of the official series and try to get back to a core horror element. And it works beautifully. Not only as a horror film but a powerful commentary on the nature of censorship. See Craven's material more often than not has intelligence behind all the gruesome fireworks. Not one of the other Elm Street sequels ever really advanced the story, fresh victims, same Freddy. So what's my point? While it's entirely possible that Craven wouldn't want the film remade, it's because he recognises it's legacy and importantance as a genre staple. HOWEVER, Platinum Dunes didn't give him the chance to turn it down, and I believe he has said recently that he would have liked to have helped gear it into production in a consultant capacity as with the Last House and The Hills Have Eyes remakes. Without the fans, the orignal movie wouldn't have been as successful, that's true, but without Craven there would be no movie for them to invest themselves in. He is owed respect, and as far as I can see, not getting any.
2. He didn't trash the sequels in Scream. The writer, Kevin Williamson wrote that line and Craven wanted to take it out because of how it might look, till Kevin pointed out that "the rest suck" line also included New Nightmare.
3. We obviously have a very different idea of doing right by the fans. The studio New Line have hardly ever done right by the fans. Bob Shaye himself admitted that this franchise was all he had and he had to keep re-using it to keep New Line going. He didn't make the sequels to please the fans. He released them in quick succession to keep his nest egg. Part 5 and 6 did miserably. Craven didn't ever abandon the franchise. He repeatedly turned down the task of doing more sequels, knowing that they would be inferior, merely following the same template as the previous ones without ever taking it to the next level. He's an intelligent man and doesn't want to invest himself in what amounts to creative bankruptcy. Wes Craven has been Freddy's most loyal supporter, never wanting to go back unless the idea was solid.
4. Lastly, I simply don't understand your comment about how if the film wasn't remade then your generation wouldn't have the oppertunity to love and appreciate Nightmare on Elm Street the way we did. This is why we have VHS, Dvd, HD, Blu-Ray etc. I first saw the original on video. You can't love and appreciate something by watching a carbon copy. Do you think anybody would say the same about the turgid remake of Psycho? No. They would revisit the original masterpiece.
This remake culture is ultimately getting the industry and the audience nowhere. What we will have when we look back at this last decade? And yes I know films have been remade since the 30's, but never to this insane level. Think of all the franchise names that have been remade. Friday the 13th, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead etc. Do you think any of these will be reemembered ten years from now? Twenty years from now? I guarantee it would only be by association with the originals. Those film shaped an entire genre of film-making. And didn't need to ride on somebody else's coat-tails to do it. |
 | keepin It Reel 9:22pm, July 24, 2009
ctchadwick, I agree 100% that character development and having characters that are actually RELATEABLE should be the prime focus behind any film, especially that of a horror film, because we experiance the HORROR aspect of those films by investing in the characters and feeling the danger they're in, and too few of these genre films accomplish that today. If you don't get the audience to care about your character's, and ultimately their fate, then you haven't done your job. When a character dies off, you should feel bad. (I still sometimes re-watch classic films where good character's have died, and I still kind of hope to myself "maybe when I watch it this time it'll be different, and that character will survive). Now here is where I disagree with you. While "Friday the 13" was in no way perfect, it was also in no way awful. Yes, some of the character's were cliche (like the jerk who's parent's owned the cabin, who I just couldn't wait to die), but I did like some of the character's like Jared Pedoleck's for example, and a couple others. Also, you shouldn't be quick to call any of us unintellegent for going to the theater to see these films, because we don't know if they're gonna be good or bad until we see them, there not automatically gonna be bad just cause platinum Dunes makes them, and you just admitted to going and seeing them yourself. Guess that makes you none the wiser.
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 | Spruce 11:10pm, July 24, 2009
I'm predicting Elm Street will be PD's greatest achievment to date when it's released, i'm jumping out of my skin to see this film snd its still miles away from release. |
 | megalodonbite 11:14pm, July 24, 2009
TheTodge, I am glad that you actually mentioned the job that Zombie did on Halloween on this site, and I'll tell you why; Michael Myers is honestly the best horror character EVER. The original Halloween had more effect on the mind than any other horror film I can think of. The way that he appears in the dark in films 1-5 (skipping 3) you cannot compare to and he was so perfect that he didn't even need blood or good kills to prove it. All he had to do was stand there...next to a bush and he freaked the shit out of all of us even now. I hope I'm not getting out of line here, but I really wish that Platinum Dunes would have remade Halloween and I feel like Rob Zombie took that away from us. Unfortunately, he came up with the idea first and completely destroyed it. I don't want to go on and on about how Rob Zombie sucks because I would be a hypocrite (those that have seen my previous posts will know why). Nor do I want set an open door up for people who agree with me and begin writing posts about it. But for those who truly understand the pain that I am going through with the loss of Micheal Myers (who will always be #1 me)...we still have a chance to feel again how we did in the late 70's-80's when horror films made you feel that JOLT in your stomach! This is it! Yes, I will say that I wanted Platinum Dunes to bring back Michael Myers but its too late for that. "Someone else" got it first. I can deal with that...because Platinum Dunes is bringing Freddy back and I have true faith that this movie is going to blow my mind to the point where I can get over "other things." I have a good feeling that THIS is the movie I will show my future kids and say THIS is a good horror film that will last in their heads forever as the original Halloween did for me and will never ever forget it...Brad, don't let me forget this one! |
 | keepin It Reel 12:18am, July 25, 2009
"The Todge": For one thing, I never said that I personally liked any of the sequels (Includung "New Nightmare"), but never the less, many people do. Secondly, just because Craven couldn't think of a way to top the original, and neither did any of the maker's of the sequels, doesn't mean that someone other talented writer couldn't come along with a great story to do so in the future, and who's to say Sam Bayer hasn't done that. No one on this board can, at least not until the film opens. And in reference to my comment about my generation needing their own Freddy, I stick by that completely. Like it or not, while you or I might be fine going back and enjoying the origional films because we can appreciate them, most people won't. They won't because the original film is a bit dated, has inferior visual effects than people have become accustumed to, and kids today don't exactly relate to kids from the early 80's. (Not to mention the fact that some young people have never been exposed to the origional, and know of Freddy simply because he is a household name. Most young people had never even seen a "King Kong", or a "War of the Worlds" film until they were remade in 2005, they'ed only heard of them)Times change, and timeless story's usually adapt to those changes in the times. Certain things that were relevant them are not relevant today. While Craven's film commented on things that were happening then, it's time for a film to comment on the present. Not to mention the fact that the original film may have been great, but the sequels have defaced the franchise, and let's face it, most people (with the exception of the fans), only know Freddy as the one-lineing, joke telling, unscary, campy, and overly cheesey son of a bitch that the sequels have perverted him into. Craven's "New Nightmare" simply wasn't enough to erase the memory of those films, and was slapped in the face when "Freddy VS. Jason" came along and undermined his work yet again. Only solution is a complete reboot from the ground up, returning Freddy to the evil bastard he started out as, and should've continued to be. And no one want's there last memory of Freddy on the big screen to be of him shooting oxygen tanks at a mentally challenged, zombie-like Jason. Like it or not, the movie has been remade, and most people are happy about it. And despite whatever feelings people have toward Platinum Dunes's past movies, the quality of those films are ultimately measured by the people who wrote and directed them. Bad writer's & directors = bad films. Good writers & directors = good films. And I've said it many times, and I'll say it again, this is a SAMUEL BAYER film.Since this is also his first film, no one has the right to prematurely judge him, or the quality of a film in which they have never layed eyes upon. And in regards to my statement about Freddy belonging to the fan's, yeah legally they don't have ownership over him, but they are never the less the ones who made him an icon, and if they want to see another "NOES", they have every right to. Obviously there's a demand for more films, and I say as long as they're done justice, no one has the right to keep them from being made. Not even Craven. And when I said "Do right by the fans", that was in reference to Platinum Dunes and not the sequels. And Just because Craven doesn't want this film to be made, doesn't mean it shouldn't. Craven's taste and approval are not the end all be all test of quality. Any one who's seen "Wishmaster", "Dracula 2000", "Scream 2", and Cursed" can attest to that. |
 | clubnick 12:59am, July 25, 2009
keepin it Reel, one statement you made in the above message truly resonates with me... "Bad writer's & directors = bad films. Good writers & directors = good films." But to pinpoint your statement even further; all great movies can only start from a great script. |
 | tobyralphydog 1:41am, July 25, 2009
im a huge platinum dunes fan, i had never heard of the hitcher till they remade it and loved it so watched the originals. Ive enjoyed all there movies and love remakes but when I heard about NOES being remade I did kinda feel abit weird about it and never knew why and now i know...Im sad because i now know ill never see Robert as Freddy again, thats it, its all over,while im sad over that i am excited about this movie, the released pics are the freddy i wanted to see, i cant wait, but i live in New Zealand so they wont release it theatrically here probably :-( |
 | catrunner89 2:18am, July 25, 2009
just don't take away his sense of humor for hell sakes that's my fav quality about him. the best quality in bad guys are a sense of humor horror or not, Chucky, the Joker, and if u guys take that away from Freddy i'm gonna be thoroughly pissed |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:38am, July 25, 2009
I thought I would chime in here with something. The whole 'leaked script was only a first daft' thing is complete B.S. That was the script that they went into production with, and it was only when people started bitching about it did they change certain things. The script leaked only a few weeks before principal photography started. That is not enough time to really lock down a final draft.
I don't know how many of you realize how films are made; especially modestly budgeted horror films. These films have to have a final draft because of all the logistical elements such as, location scouting, casting, shot lists, set design, art direction, storyboards, fx, and schedules. Sure, things tend to change a little once production is underway, but all of the major decisions have already been made so the film will not go over budget.
Any of you that believe that the film will be a lot different from the script are really naive. If you read the script, than the film you will see next year will be pretty much the same thing.
The script that was leaked was a draft by Eric Heisserer. That means that Wesley Strick wrote the first draft, and then they passed it off to Eric Heisserer for a rewrite. Those are the only two writers listed for the film. That means that the draft that we have, was Heisserer's take on Strick's first draft. He probably touched it up a bit before filming began, and he was probably on set for re-writes during filming.
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 | knifegloves.com 3:56am, July 25, 2009
To I am the egg man:
The draft that was leaked was dated January 14, 2009. I read it a couple of months before filming ever began.
Here are some of the changes that Brad has mentioned or what we've seen from other sources:
1. Nancy is not a Gothy girl.
2. Podcasting was removed (this affects several bits of dialogue throughout the film).
3. Based on the teaser trailer, we know it shows a girl alive in a bloody body bag similar to Tina in the original. This was nowhere in the leaked script.
4. Quentin doesn't get attacked by spiders (this affects a lot of the described events that follow).
These are just some of the changes we know exist that change the dialogue and occurrences in the scenes. The leaked script itself says it's a "draft" and scripts always change during filming and given that the leaked script was actually drafted 5 months before filming ever began, the script changed a lot in those 5 months... but of course some of it will stay the same. It wasn't rewritten by Eric just once... it went through several rewrites before filming began.
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 | deanbarry 3:56am, July 25, 2009
I wish I was at comic con...sounds insane fun. Seeing that footage, to get a sense of the atmosphere and JEH's performance would have been sweet. |
 | Shierky 4:55am, July 25, 2009
Ok first I want to say this to the Platinum Dunes crew you guys are awesome, Brad I have been fallowing you on twitter and personally I think the remakes thus far have been just wild and fresh. Now saying that, this is the one movie I have been waiting for and now it is complete being a big fan of Robert Englund as Freddy I was disappointed that he did not want to reprise his roll however I do not believe he is the only one that can be Freddy I have all the faith in the world the JEH pulled off and very convincing Freddy for the mass fan base. I will stand by the original movie of Nightmare but will welcome what I will call a Update new Nightmare where the effects will be better then anything we have seen Freddy in. I thank Brad and his crew for taking on such a project and I look forward to seeing the finished outcome on the big screen. To the Na Sayers f the world I say this, give it a chance watch it enjoy it but don't discredit it before you have seen the out come it will be awesome better then Friday the 13th (sorry but personal thought) anywas that is my rant I don't care if you agree or not but have faith in the movie we have all loved for so long and don't look at it as a remake, look at it as an addition to an already awesome series of movies. |
 | keepin It Reel 5:23am, July 25, 2009
Knifegloves.com is 100% correct about the screenplay going threw many changes. I have been following Brad on Twitter since the Comic-Con stuff started, and he personally confirmed everything that Knifegloves.com said. Actually, If I'm not mistaken, I saw someone on Twitter by the name Knifegloves, so I think he was the one who asked the questions, and then Brad responded to them. BTW, just watched "Watchmen", and now I'm even more confident that Jackie Earle Hayley is gonna kick some major ass as Freddy. That guy is intense ! |
 | Jimmy_D_ 7:37am, July 25, 2009
I am so excited about this movie and I cannot wait to see Jackie playing freddy, the picture is excellent and I am delighted that freddy really does just look plain evil and sinister. Love all of platinum dunes work thus far and cannot wait to see your take on this horror classic, keep up the good work guys! |
 | Craig_666 10:49am, July 25, 2009
As much as i hate to admit it but it looks like you have done good with the Freddy character. That picture looks like Freddy will be back to his dark days ala 1984. The poster looks good too. However, I won't get my hopes up like I did with your friday the 13th. Everything was looking good up until i saw the film.
Please can i request one thing with the editing. Please don't do so many quick cuts like a music video. It takes away from the atmosphere, and is annoying to watch. Watch the genre films from the 70s and 80s. No quick cuts here and that's what makes them so great. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 12:11pm, July 25, 2009
Those changes that you talked about are all minor, and in no way do they change the plot of the film in any major way. |
 | knifegloves.com 1:14pm, July 25, 2009
To I am the egg man:
Of course it's not going to change the plot. This is a REMAKE of the original so the plot is going to be essentially the same as the original. i.e. high school kids start having nightmares about the same burned guy and they die off one by one as they desperately try to find out who this guy is and how to stop him. That's the plot of this film and that's the plot of the original. What is it specifically that you don't like about what you've read? |
 | suk_a_fuk 5:52pm, July 25, 2009
I've been looking forward to this movie since it was announced, and so far it's all looking good. The only negative thing I have to say really is that the title looks a little bland and generic on the official site, and Elm Street is definitely not your generic horror movie. |
 | clubnick 6:13pm, July 25, 2009
ATTENTION JASON FANS: There is a new Friday The 13th spec screenplay sequel in 3-D out there that has gotten excellent industry reviews and has been obtained by a reputable Hollywood literary agency. The main characters are in their twenties, it brings back survivors from the early F13 films (the good ones), it makes sense to newcomers and diehard fans alike, it is for the most part REAL - meaning it could actually believably happen in the present Crystal Lake setting, it doesn't conflict at all with the previous reboot, it is scarier and more entertaining and shocking than the reboot, there is more violence, gore and nudity in this story than the last one, it finally answers the mystery as to why Jason never dies, it is not a sequel at all like "Jason Goes to Hell" or "Jason X", it finally explains the mystery of how Jason was able to do the killing in part 2 when it was his Mother that did the murdering in Part 1 for avenging her "dead" drowning victim eight year old son, and the movie would be in 3-D. Based on everything said - would this be a type of Friday the 13th that you would consider going to the theater for? Let us know your opinions so Platinum Dunes can consider reading the script. |
 | Freddyisking 10:36pm, July 25, 2009
Yeah, not to rain on your parade or anything, but I don't think chances are good of ever seeing another Friday flick that fits within the continuity of the original series of films. |
 | clubnick 10:53pm, July 25, 2009
Your opinion is well taken, however, as the question states (if you are an F13 fan and if this movie was actually produced)... Would this be a type of Friday the 13th that you would consider going to the theater for? |
 | nricexbox 12:37am, July 26, 2009
The picture is great for capturing the dark theme of the redo. The poster is one of the best. Love how you are making the blades very prominent. |
 | Freddyisking 12:58am, July 26, 2009
Oh yeah clubnick, as a Friday fan I would see any film related to the franchise. I just expect from here on out everything that comes to us now will be either following the remake or stand-alone stories that don't really fit into any continuity per se. |
 | keepin It Reel 2:24am, July 26, 2009
clubnick, personally I wouldn't see it. Don't want to see any old characters from the original series. Actually, I don't want to see much of anything from the old series. This is a reboot from the ground up. Need new character's, fresh plots/story lines never seen before, and none having to do with any of the previous films. Would like to see Jason do some thing's he's never done before, but still within the realm of reality. No more sex and nudity, seen it a million times before, completely unnecessary, and cliche. We don't need anymore gore, it's not scary, and it's not realistic to have huge amounts of blood and guts. It's comes out both disgusting, and fake looking, while getting zero scares, and again is cliche. Need new and fresh kills as well as scares. To try and recreate things done over and over in the origional series (sex, nudity, too much gore, old character's, and stupid unlrelatable teenager's) would be not only pointless, but boring. Bottom line, we need new blood injected into this series, not old blood. People are tired of seeing the same stuff over and over, and adding old character's, more sex, and more gore brings nothing new to the table. And all the sex and nudity from the new "F13" was one of the major problems people had with the film because it was cliche. Anyway's, just adding my two cents. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:37am, July 26, 2009
The plot of the film, is the specific actions that tie each scene together. All of those points that were illustrated were just bits in scenes, or thematic devices, that may improve the film. Having said that, the basic plot points are going to remain the same unless Platinum Douche will splurge for extensive reshoots. The problems that I have with the script are the characters(carbon copy teens that seemed recycled from every teen-centric horror film since Scream), the blandness of how the story unfolds, the castration of Freddy as a character( he is no longer a child murderer, only an alleged pedophile- how annoyingly P.C.), and the lack of any coherency as it pertains to how the film moves forward. In summation, it is just a lazy ass script that was produced by a company that pre-packages nauseatingly inept remakes. Also, I will admit that this is a little personal for me. I am a screenwriter. I had the balls cut out of one of my scripts a few years back, and when it was released, the film made money, but it was universally hated. I know how Hollywood works. These days, you can't get an original horror script produced unless you either cave in and let them make it PG-13, or go the straight to video route. I am also just pissed at the way Wes is being treated by these assholes. I know the man, and I can tell you that he's extremely hurt by this. I mean, they wouldn't even let the man consult on the film. That is total disrespect in my eyes. I know for a fact that Platinum Douche has been trying to get their hands on as many horror properties as they can, because making money off of these horrible remakes is like shooting fish in a barrel. Ask yourself why they only hire newbie directors to make the films. It's because they have a business model that goes something like this. Take film A. that was made however many years ago. Get somebody to write a script that includes a greatest hits stew of all the things that people loved in the original franchise. Fill it with completely watered down, interchangeable characters. Get a video director who is just happy to be directing a feature so they can exert creative control over him. Package it with whatever current crop of CW actors that have room in their schedules. Plop it out to an audience that is comprised of teens that wouldn't know a real horror film if it bit them in the ass, and horror fans that are just willing to pay money to see an inferior version of a film that they love. These people are just businessmen who have found a niche, and are exploiting it. They're exploiting all of the fans too. Don Coscarelli told me that they want the rights to remake Phantasm. In all fairness, there have been offers from a lot of people to remake that film, but I hope you see my point here. He isn't selling. He hopes to make another on his own. The man has integrity. I just wish that their were more people like him. I may come off as a hater on these boards, and I suppose that a lot of you don't really care about these finer points as it doesn't really affect you outside of whether you feel like you got your money's worth when you see the picture, but it affects me financially, and on a more personal note, as a fan. I love horror films. I love them like Roman Polanski loves Miley Cyrus. I am just totally pissed that films that I have loved over the years, and the people who created them, are being treated so disrespectfully. I'm not against remakes in general though. If a competent screenwriter comes along and teams up with a great director, we sometimes get Dawn of the Dead or The Hills Have Eyes. All we get from Platinum Douche is warmed over trash. |
 | keepin It Reel 2:46am, July 26, 2009
To Platinum Dunes. When ever you guys get around to doing a "Friday" sequel, why not go with adult victims instead of college kids. Kids wouldn't realistically continue to vacation to Crystal Lake after hearing about the murders that took place, and knowing the killer was never found. That was a big problem I had with the original series, in every movie, a group of kids would come along, get killed, one would survive to tell the police about it, police would fuck up, and then eventually more kids would come and get killed as well. It was pretty much the same old cycle, and completely implausable. You'd think that somewhere down the line, they'd start sending S.W.A.T teams into those woods, or the police would at least hold some sort of ivestigation. Personally, I think that would be interesting to see in a sequel. Clay and Whitney escape, go get the cops, S.W.A.T. storms the woods, and have their asses handed to them by Jason. Kinda like in "Aliens". Either way, I don't think kids would be stupid enough to continue going to Crystal Lake after the first film. And why does Jason never venture into town and just go from home to home, taking people out, or at least drive them out of town cause who in their right mind would continue to live right next to the woods where a known serial killer lives ? |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:50am, July 26, 2009
I gotta say that I agree with Keepin it Reel with the next Friday film. The old cliches just don't cut it anymore. I would love to see an adult-centric Horror films from you guys. You never know. Maybe if you guys tried something different, your films would be better. |
 | keepin It Reel 3:17am, July 26, 2009
Eggman, since you claim to be a writer, who has written the screenplay to a well known horror film that "made money, but was universally hated", why not reveal yourself, and name the movie by which Hollywood screwed you over, cause I'd love to see it. Also, you claim to know Wes Craven personally, as well as other people in the buisiness(Hell, you even accused me one of being in the buisiness, and claimed to have gotten an e-mail from Michael Bay that was floating about, that you could only have seen if you worked in the buisiness). If any ounce of that is true, then you must be someone we all know of as well. So why hide behind that screen name, and take cheap shot's knowing that no one will know exactly who they are coming from ? I find that quite cowardly. At least have the balls to reveal yourself, and allow the people at PD, and all of us here, to know exactly who is constantly attacking them on this board. Or perhaps you are simply ashamed of yourself, and of that well known film that was "universally hated". You don't have a problem with the "NOES" remake, you just have a personall vendetta against Platinum Dunes in general, and will stop at nothing to ruin them, no matter what they are putting out. Your film was a cinematic failure, and now you will say and do anything to make PD fail. How much lower can you get? Sitting their, hiding behind the saftey of your own desktop. If you are so righteous, then let us all know who you really are, and attack Platinum Dunes on an even playing field. And if you really cared about Wes Craven, (whom you claim to personally know) defend him publically, and stop letting this chicken-shit Egg Man guise do all your battling for you. |
 | clubnick 3:21am, July 26, 2009
All I can say is, WOW. I should have been a lot more specific. Anyway, so you know, there are no cliche's used in the script and it is a smart, multi layerd story. The problem I guess I am having with this is that I cannot give away the story to you. If you all only knew. Again, wow - to think what I have given would have been enough for you, considering the lack luster stuff you are all mainly bitching about in comparison. So lets just leave it at this; as complex and entertaining as my screenplay is with layers of added story, you just would settle for returning to theater for a something like the last F13 sequel that mainly boasted the creative nuance of Jason being able to run fast. You are all assuming way too much without taking in consideration all that was previously stated. This message board is retarded. |
 | moondogmatinee 4:16am, July 26, 2009
very happy so far with what i have seen. thank you everyone involved for making freddy scary and something to look forward to again! hookey freddy had to go so,reboot remake or whatever, this was a must. negativity on this site is VERY prevalent but i dont get it? are people so dense that all they can think to do is waste time complaining on message boards like this about movies they dont want to see? like it'll change things! like Brad Fuller will just burst into tears and quit his job and take up at some fru-fru coffee joint living off tips instead of producing films! well heres to fruitless efforts! but speaking of, when, no really when are we seeing a trailer? every trailer description is rather different from the last and to be honest the true fans who may not have been able to attend comic con feel a little slighted. personally i think if warner bros. and new line REALLY didnt want to piss people off about a remake like this they would immediately release a really kick ass trailer that would shut every hater and nay-saying directly the fuck up. welp, thats all i got! so to every blogger sittin in mommys basement, tears fallin' on there first edition copy of "The Dream Child" on VHS over this remake, i bid you good night. and to the brad fullers of the world i say bet full amounts and drink the most expensive whiskey you can find in my name brothers and sisters...
happy trailer... err trails |
 | keepin It Reel 4:41am, July 26, 2009
clubnick, you say that this board(meaning us), is "retarded". Well, all I can say is, FUCK YOU. I usually try to keep my comments somewhat civil, but all the disgruntled screenwritters who seem to be popping up like pimples on this board, (who are so arrogant to think that anyone would actually pay money to see their screenplay put to film) are really stating to anoy me. For one thing, I don't give a flying shit how good you claim your script to be, if it were really any good, it would have been used. Secondly, you keep saying shit like "if you all only knew how amazing my screenplay is, but I can't tell you cause I can't give it away". Well that's it, we don't know and only have your meaningless word to go on. Oh, and since you're pretty much just promoting yourself, and saying how great your movie is, and how exciting and surperior it is in comparison to the reboot, yet can't give us any evidence to back up your claims, why should anyone give your script the time of day? You remind me of a comedian who laughs at his own jokes, while also being the only one who finds them to be amusing in the first place. You might as well just tell us your entire script word for word, cause I think it's safe to say, it's never getting picked up. The only reason you're even on this board is because you're obviously desperate, and are pathetically, and futilely campaigning to get you're screenplay looked at, and let's face it, it almost never works out when people campaign for themselves. Especially when they're the only member of that campaign. If your script was anywhere near decent, and had been so well reviewed by industry big wigs as you claim ,(which BTW, you can't even name a single one of those people) you wouldn't be wasting your time on this "retarded" board every day, pretty much begging to have your script looked at. You know what, let me apologise for that last statement. It was offensive to the mentally handicaped, because even they know your a just desperate asshole with a screenplay that's gonna be GARBAGE. But then again, I |
 | keepin It Reel 4:42am, July 26, 2009
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 | keepin It Reel 4:44am, July 26, 2009
Continued.....But then again, I guess when hell freezes over, and Satan starts serving snowballs, you'll finally get that call from Platinum Dunes you've been waiting for. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 5:42am, July 26, 2009
I think you know that to do so, would not be a very good move on my part. I am perfectly comfortable with my anonymity, though it doesn't change the fact that everything I've pointed out is true. |
 | clubnick 1:29pm, July 26, 2009
keepin it Reel, you've done everything in your power to be as adverse as possible no matter what anyone has to say. One thing we can all count on is that you will unconditionally defend Platinum Dunes and so will the rest of the teens and college kids that want to work there. Anyway, retarded may have been a strong word, so I will use a word more fitting. This board is pointless because most users on it, good or bad, (including me) has an agenda so I will take my public airing about my screenplay situation to the real horror fans elsewhere. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 1:40pm, July 26, 2009
Don't leave clubnick. If people like you and I leave, then all this will be is a virtual love-in. People need to hear a strong dissenting voice whether they like it or not. No one has the right to only hear the things that they want to hear. |
 | clubnick 1:48pm, July 26, 2009
Egg Man -it doesn't matter, these people aren't fans, they have an agenda. To add one more statemnt about keepin it Reels post; I must correct you that even though the few viable industry experts that read my screenplay with good reviews actually exist, my point to this whole situation is that NO ONE will know how good this script is without reading it. Platinum Dunes never actually read it so they never have given it a chance and the reason is becasue they re-hired their existing screenwriters and therefore will refuse to read anything regarding F13 submitted by a reputable literary agency. - NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY WERE TOLD THE STORY IS. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 1:52pm, July 26, 2009
Screw them, and screw their agenda. Don't let them push you out of here. |
 | clubnick 1:58pm, July 26, 2009
Egg Man, as much as I can understand your side of things here; understand that I am not the type of person that wastes time on message boards. I've tried with a wasted effort, so now I am moving on. I think you are wasting your time because these people on this board are either film novices or have an agenda and it has nothing to do with reality of being a true horror fan. Go to Fangoria's forums and you will see that everyone there will agree with you. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:07pm, July 26, 2009
I will remain here as a thorn in their side, and when this abortion is released next year, I'm going to be able to say "I told you so." |
 | keepin It Reel 2:37pm, July 26, 2009
clubnick, you're right. You have tried with a wasted effort. This is not the place for you to shop scripts, so at least we won't have to hear about "F13 3D" anymore. And to Eggman, you can stay on this board all you like, cause mo matter how much you try, you're either gonna be ignored, or just put in your place. Either way, you won't be winning any arguments, swaying any PD enthuseists, or be a thorn in anyone's side. At best, you only provide laughter and entertainment for the people on this board when you throw your little fits like some kind of five year old, but rest assured, no one is laughing with you. And you can say that to reveal yourself would be a bad move on your part, and that you're perfectly comfortable with your anonymity all you want. Doesn't change the fact that you're a chicken shit asshole, and simply afraid to reveal yourself cause you're all talk, so of coarse you're comfortable using an alias. Both you and clubnick are the only ones on this board with any agenda. You are a joke, and a disgrace, so by all means, stay on this board and keep provideing the laughs, who knows, you might even have your ass handed to you every once in a while as well. And lastly Eggman, in the meantime, don't let that allegator mouth overload your little mosquito ass okay. |
 | Freddyisking 2:50pm, July 26, 2009
A guy says to another guy "You know that pizza we had last night was awesome. We should get it again tonight." So his buddy goes out to get the pizza. Meanwhile, an occasional acquaintance brings over burgers, thinking he's saved the day by supplying food, despite it not fitting into the agenda already set in place.
Rough analogy I know, but basically, the only way this could ever work using your script clubnick would be if Brad and Andy decided they wanted both pizza and burgers...that is, your script with heavy rewrites to make it a direct sequel to the Friday remake. But I'm sorry to say I'm pretty sure they just want pizza. |
 | knifegloves.com 3:38pm, July 26, 2009
To I am the egg man: See the film.. and then make a judgment. I'm sure you'd think it unwise for people to assume your own work is crap before they ever saw how it came out. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion. But you have NO reason to suspect that this film will truly suck since you haven't seen ANY of it yet. I haven't said it will be fantastic but I have high hopes. You on the other hand are pissing on work you haven't even seen yet and being an alleged screenwriter (who?), you should know that a black and white script (especially an EARLY draft) cannot be used to make any judgment calls. You say the plot is about how the scenes are pieced together and how the characters are built. You're basing your conclusions on a text that ultimately got changed a lot before filming ever began and also changed during filming. So, by saying that the film will suck when you don't know what did and didn't make it into the final script and also by saying the scenes and how they are placed together before ever seeing even a SECOND of footage truly shows your bias and agenda. Oh... and so does your anonymity. |
 | Nightmare 5:59pm, July 26, 2009
So did all of you PD cock suckers not see the abysmal Friday the 13th they produced? I mean a F13 movie is a hard thing to fuck up, but they managed to do so. What makes you think this will be any better? |
 | glassman99 6:33pm, July 26, 2009
When did this become a pitch a script , or argument page. I dont give a fuck how you feel about each other . This is a blog about the upcoming Freddy remake . Jason was last year . Let it be . Regardless of your personal opinions , you know as well as I , that a sequel will be coming on both Nightmare and Friday , and you will go watch them both , regardless of your less than professional opinons on whether or not it was the way you would have made it . I for one am happy to still be getting Freddy and Jason films and I think it was high time for a revamp. Jason in space... Freddy as a comedian... I still watched and enjoyed , but lost the original concept of being scared and losing sleep. CAN WE SEE THE DAMN TRAILER NOW PLEASE!!! |
 | Shierky 6:38pm, July 26, 2009
wow one persons opinion and we are supposed to treat it like gold, Nightmare I saw the "Remake" of F13 and it was awesome, had nothing to do with the original franchise because well it is a remake, just like all the other remakes out there. No one is saying you have to like a remake in fact if you do not like it then I say to bad I enjoyed it. Eggman get a life, if your as good as you claim to be then why have you not reveled who you are? My guess is because you are a nobody and are pissed because you are still a nobody. Guys give the movie a chance damn they just finished shooting the film. Also don't forget Platinum Dunes has made original films as well, Hello The unborn, damn good movie. All you guys are doing is acting like the children Freddy kills in their sleep... 1-2 Freddy's coming for you.
Bottom line Grow the fuck up! |
 | Nightmare 6:47pm, July 26, 2009
Ill grow up when PD makes a watchable movie. Guess Ill be a kid for life. Oh well. |
 | keepin It Reel 6:50pm, July 26, 2009
Nightmare, did you seriously just say that a "Friday the 13th" film is a hard thing to fuck up ? Apparently you haven't seen "Jason Takes Manhattan", "Jason Goes to Hell", "Jason X", "Freddy VS. Jason", the one with the girl who had telekinesis powers, or the one with the Jason impersonator. All horrible disgraces to the series, and arguably some of the WORST films ever made in cinematic history. So I'm inclined to think it's fairly easy to "fuck up" a "F13" movie, after all, it's been done six times. (Although I really didn't find any of the ten films of the original series to be of particularly good quality. All ten of them boasted bad acting, cheesy dialogue, and were pretty much B-movies with a rather large fan base) So if films like "Jason X" are your definition of good, then I guess you and I have a much different idea of quality. To me, a good film is one with a realistic story, decent acting, dialogue that can be taken seriously, and no "Jason goes to space". Platinum Dunes' reboot was not flawless, but far surpaced any of the original films. But I guess you like your horror flicks served up with extra cheese, and a side of painfully bad acting. But anyways, last time I checked, this board was about "Nightmare on Elm Street", so I don't see why everyone keeps bringing up the "Friday" reboot. Let's discuss that when a sequel is officially announced. |
 | Shierky 6:58pm, July 26, 2009
well Nightmare I am sure you know that there is other companies out that produce horror films, you not have to wait for Platinum Dunes to meet your standards as I am sure they never will with people like you. Keepin it Reel is right this is about Nightmare on Elm Street although as cheesy as Freddy vs Jason was I still had to watch it. I think the new movie will be awesome. |
 | Freddyisking 7:35pm, July 26, 2009
Nightmare, Friday...it doesn't matter. I really wish fans who didn't like a particular entry in either franchise would stop thinking they have some authority to speak for the rest of us. Nightmare on Elm Street is my favorite movie of all time, I was born the same year it came out, and I've been a Freddy freak for as long as I can even remember. I love every film in the franchise, even the lesser ones, and if I had the money there would be a room in my house of nothing but Freddy memorabilia. I for one, do not feel this film is a disgrace. I am sad to see Englund's reign as Freddy come to an end as I personally was hoping for a sequel to FvJ. But I welcome Jackie into the role as 1. the man is an awesome actor, and 2. new interpretation is the key to ongoing life for beloved characters. Not to mention I am in the vast minority that didn't think to the leaked early draft was all that bad. So gimme the remake, anything that keeps new Freddy flicks coming out, and hopefully some day we'll even get to see Jackie go glove to machete with Derek Mears. |
 | knifegloves.com 7:41pm, July 26, 2009
As it was brought up at the Comic Con panel... this reinvention of Freddy is similar to the reinvention of the Batman universe. Before Heath's Joker... most people stated that Jack Nicholson's Joker was, is, and always will be the ultimate Joker. Then Heath showed up... while opinions vary as always, Heath's Joker surpassed the performance of Jack's. A new bar has been set and now when I hear someone mention "the Joker"... I think of Heath Ledger's version and interpretation of the character. Despite there being a large following of fans who say no one will ever top the previous actor, there will always be those who are open-minded enough to welcome in a new face to the role and accept it with open arms. Bring it on Jackie... we're ready! |
 | Freddyisking 7:53pm, July 26, 2009
I agree that a fair chance should always be given to a new actor taking on a role held by someone else, tho I feel in trying to express the mindset of a diehard supporter of the previous actor, we're kinda on unprecedented ground here. Many actors have played a character like the Joker. I mean heck, the casting of Derek Mears as the new Jason wasn't even THAT big of a deal cause with the exception of Kane's four film stint, there was a new actor as Jason each film. But it's not every day you bear witness to the first time the torch has been passed, especially when you have just one actor, the actor who originated the role, finally passing it on to someone else after 25 years. This is why I feel this is practically a historical moment, in relation to the keystone moments of horror history. |
 | Flash2566 8:19pm, July 26, 2009
I'm still wondering why they haven't released the new Nightmare movie footage from comic Con to the web yet. Whether its an actual trailer or not, it would at least give us a little taste of what we can look forward to. |
 | keepin It Reel 8:23pm, July 26, 2009
I really hope and pray Platinum Dunes NEVER makes a "Freddy VS. Jason" film. Those two characters simply don't belong in the same movie. There would be no reason for Jason to go to Springwood, because Jason stays within Crystal Lake, and kills the people who stumble upon there, I guess out of a since of protecting his woods, and probably because that's the place where people were vacationing, and having a good time while he drowned. Not to mention it's the place where his mother was killed, so he probably kills there for that reason as well. Jason doesn't go looking for people to kill, he just kills who ever happens to disturb his woods, other wise he stays to himself.(I mean you certainly don't see the family from "Texas Chainsaw Massacre going cross country to find victims.") He simply would have no believeable reason to venture all the way to Elm Street. Just like Freddy would have no reason to go to Crystal Lake, when It's Springwood he has a vendetta against. That was one of the worst plot points about the first "Freddy VS. Jason", the story was a complete mess, entirely implauseable, and they were simply looking for an excuse to bring these two icons together so that they could cash in double time. Theses two characters naturally would have absolutley nothing to do with each other, and it'd be wise to keep it that way. As a matter of fact, there was a 10 year period of anticipation for "Freddy VS. Jason" that started in 1993 when at the end of "Jason Goes to Hell", Freddy's glove reaches out of the ground and pulls Jason's mask down to hell. The anticipation from that point on, all the way up until "FVJ" was released in 2003 was better than the actuall film itself, and the film completely dissapointed. Just like with "Alien VS. Predator", while these ideas may look good on paper, they can't work within the realm of reality, at least not in any logical way, and not without ruining the validity of both franchises. So keep em separate PD. |
 | knifegloves.com 10:35pm, July 26, 2009
Hey Freddyisking: I agree with your points. My reason for using the Joker isn't because multiple people have played him before, but merely because after Jack's performance at the Joker, hardly anyone thought anyone could do it better.. much like people saying that there is no one who can play a better Freddy than Robert. I say, if the die-hard supporters of the original actor truly want to support the original actor, what better way then to adopt his opinion regarding the matter as well? Robert Englund himself said he's in favor of the remake and in favor of Jackie taking the reigns of the character. I say to the die-hard Englund fans... do what Englund himself is doing and allow room for someone else's interpretation of it. Just think... Jackie might do for Freddy what Heath did for the Joker. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 11:51pm, July 26, 2009
You haven't put anyone in their place, and neither has anyone else. This is a free exchange of words, so I will say whatever the hell I want. Moreover, you calling me a coward is funny. I will not let you, or anybody else goad me into committing career suicide. |
 | keepin It Reel 12:45am, July 27, 2009
I am the Eggman, more like I am the douche bag. I don't know why this monkey keeps writing posts as if what he has to say is of any importance. We don't need you to do anything further to comitt career suicide, because I'm sure your "universally hated(lackluster)film" has probably already done that for you. I wouldn't be surprised if at this very moment you are the laughing stock of hollywood, and that is why you will not reveal yourself, because you are ashamed of yourself, and that coupled with your childish comments you regularly infect this board with, would give everyone here infinate ammunition to use against you. And did I say coward? I ment spineless asshole. I also find it amusing that it took you a whole day to come back with such a weak response that lacked creativity, which apparently was the same problem your much loathed script had. You say you don't like Platinum Dunes or any of their films, yet you sure take a lot of time out of your life to come to their forum and rant like an upset little ten year old who didn't get that new Hot Wheels set he wanted for Christmas.(That is, when you're not busy writing god-awful scripts of course) Why don't you just pick up your marbles and run on home to mommy, so she can fix you a nice tall glass of chocolate milk, and make you feel all better. And yes, this board is a place for the free exchange of words, not mindless rants from scorned D-list screenwriters who have no lives, and who take chicken-shit cheap shots at people knowing that they will never have to face any of them outside of this forum. If you did, you'd probably just put your tail between your legs and run on back to your lonely, womanless apartment, but I guess that's what you have your right hand for. And to comment further on the notion you seem to have that to reveal yourself would be to kill your career (If that's what you wanna call it), you can't kill something that lacks life to begin with. |
 | knifegloves.com 1:20am, July 27, 2009
And back to topic we go... I must say.. hearing Jackie say, "Ready or not, here I come" in the trailer sends chills up my spine. If that's how they're leaving Freddy's voice, I'm a happy camper. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:41am, July 27, 2009
That's right Keepin it reel, you've hit the nail right on the head. Bravo. You're the one that's playing the blind man here. I've laid out very reasonable objections to this project, and you concentrate on attacking me personally. Why haven't you responded to any of the specific reasons that I've laid out? Is it because you have no other retort than grade school level insults? I think I intimidate you with what I've said, and you are just getting worked up because you can't refute any of it. But good job on the insults though, you clearly have the wit to shut up a hack like me, don't you? |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 2:56am, July 27, 2009
Oh, and I took the whole day to respond because I was enjoying a Sunday with my family. You see, I actually have that life that you told me to get. For your information, you are ab I may not be a majorly successful screenwriter, but I make a great living at what I do. I am a working man. I spend a lot of time doing re-writes, and occasionally I sell a spec. That may not be A-list, but it's a hell of a lot closer than you'll ever get. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 3:00am, July 27, 2009
Sorry. I meant to say:Oh, and I took the whole day to respond because I was enjoying a Sunday with my family. You see, I actually have that life that you told me to get. For your information, you are absolutely right, I may not be a majorly successful screenwriter, but I make a great living at what I do. I am a working man. I spend a lot of time doing re-writes, and occasionally I sell a spec. That may not be A-list, but it's a hell of a lot closer than you'll ever get. |
 | keepin It Reel 4:31am, July 27, 2009
Well Eggman, maybe you have a family, or maybe you just thought saying that would get you the last word, or make others sympathize with you. It really doesn't matter, and it hardly means you have a life, because you spend most of it here anyway. Even Osama Binladen has a family, so you get no points for that. Also, in regards to you saying your Z-list career is alot closer to the film industry then I'll ever get puzzles me, since I've never claimed to have any desire to work in the industry at all, much less as a writer. Who would, when they'd have to be acquainted with the likes of you. But even if I did, I doubt it would take much to surpass your success (or lack there of), but good luck with your direct to DVD royalties. The $40 a month you'll be getting from those should be just enough to keep the lights on, and put gas in that lemon you keep parked in your driveway. Anyways, I'm just going to ignor you from this point forward because you simply arent worthy of anyone's time or attention, and I realise now that acknowledging you at all only results in you having a reason to open that big and obnoxious mouth of yours, and make the same boring points over and over again. Not to mention, this board was ment to discuss Platinum Dunes' films, not bicker with hateful jerks looking to discredit other people's films out of jealousy. So from now on, I will only be responding to people with IQ's above 35, and that actually have something significant to offer this forum. So you will have nothing to worry about from now on Eggman. At least not from me, can't speak for all the other people on this board that dislike you. You really have a way with people. |
 | Esrever 3:51pm, July 27, 2009
Really Nice. Now just waiting for the trailer ;o) |
 | cherrybomb 8:31pm, July 27, 2009
Opinions are like assholes, folks... everyone has one and they all stink!
My opinion? Well it works for me, and if you agree, great, if you don't, that's great too. The original NOES has been my favorite movie since I first saw it in 1989 (yes, a few years after it came out - I was only 8 years old and not interested when it was first released!) I have had my fair share of skepticism about remakes - PD's and others, for that matter - In all honesty, the only ones I really hated were "The Toolbox Murders" (YAWNNN!!!) and that awful wannabe 'Last House' ripoff/remake that was released under the name "Chaos" (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0405977/) HURLLL!!!!
I will see the NOES remake and reserve judgment until then. It DOES bother me that Wes Craven had no involvement and says he is hurt about it, but Hollywood is cutthroat and doesn't really give a shit who it tramples over to rake in the box office bucks. |
 | cherrybomb 8:33pm, July 27, 2009
oh, come to think of it, the remake of "Black Christmas" was pretty yawn-inducing also.. |
 | knifegloves.com 11:29pm, July 27, 2009
Did anyone else hear Freddy's voice from the trailer that said, "Ready or not, here I come"? What did you think of how his voice sounded? |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 12:14am, July 28, 2009
Wow, you still didn't comment on the points I presented. Now who's spineless? |
 | knifegloves.com 12:17am, July 28, 2009
Who are you talking to? I quit writing to you a long time ago. It's "keepin It Reel" that's been spatting with you these last many posts. I'm going back on topic... feel free to join. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 12:43am, July 28, 2009
I was speaking to Keepin it Reel. |
 | keepin It Reel 1:51am, July 28, 2009
Guess some people just never let up. But you guys know how it is, every party has a pooper... er immature wannabe screenwriter. But anyways, I'm done sparring with cetain people on this board because no matter what, there will always be haters using the same old points, taking cheap shots, and even stoop so low as to bring their family into things just to win an argument. From now on I'm only going to comment on the films, because Platinum Dunes created this forum for the sole purpose of getting civilized feedback from the fans to take their opinions into consideration. But as always, there are some who abuse their privileges, and use this site to attack specific members of Platinum Dunes on a personal level, and are not here to discuss the films at all. I got tired of all the disgusting rants, and attacks made on specific people, that were obviously personal, and just downright dispicable. So I began attacking the haters personally for taking unfair shots against people who aren't even around to defend themselves, but you can try and argue with them until your blue in the face, and they'll just keep saying the same old shit over and over again like a broken record. They're like a plague, and will do anything in their power to try and convince others to join there cause. Only solution is to ignor them. Once they see that they aren't getting a rise out of anyone, they will leave, like any other troublmaker. So if any haters out there (you know who you are, and so does everyone else) want to make any further immature attacks on me, you're more then welcome to waste your time because they will be falling upon deaf ears. |
 | I AM THE EGG MAN 1:58am, July 28, 2009
Still spineless. |
 | keepin It Reel 1:59am, July 28, 2009
Does anyone know where to find the new trailer, or audio. I keep hearing descriptions of it, but that just makes me want to see the trailer even more. I hope PD releases it soon because April is a whole nine months away. |
 | Shierky 3:05am, July 28, 2009
omg people if you want to fight like little school kids please take it else where. |
 | DurantesInferno 3:50am, July 28, 2009
Bitch this,and Bitch that!! WOULD PEOLE PLEASE SHUT THE FUCKIGN HELL UP!! Your all acting like a bunch of vhildren,didn't we all wher esupose to leave this shit,behind?
okay anyways, I agree with you Shierky! But they actully have a trialer for NOES?! SWEET!! i read the script (the only thing i hate about he movie,was, alot of stuff,essptionlly the kids....they don't sound,or act like kids...to sterotype....and work more on nighmares,and leave a few stuff out,but its good, I want ot see that trailer damn it!!!! |
 | DurantesInferno 3:53am, July 28, 2009
thers a pic of Rosach Freddy?! and a trialer? damn it...why weren't these guys @ comic con,on preview ngiht? or sunday?! DAMN TI!! MUST SEE TRAILER......I WANT MY ROSCACH FREDDY,and thanx PD and Brain,for making, Freddy scary.agian!! serioeusly the guy needed a make over!! |
 | moondogmatinee 11:11am, August 2, 2009
alright, alright. ive got to give it to that keeping it real person. ive read alot of BULLSHIT on this forum. there are clearly individuals on this that really truely have nothing better to do than just talk a lot of smack about people they dont know. i would love to know the jobs held by those individuals in question, and they know who they are, so i can try to come up with some clever ways of making them feel like shit about there occupation, ala brad fuller and others at pd. honestly, and im just gonna go there and call this one out, eggman, what the fuck is up your ass? if you hate this stuff so much, why do you bother? are you the one whose script was rejected? well from where im seated seems to me you should focus all this negative energy into getting OTHER companies to see your work as opposed to just bitching about this one. how is that going to get you anywhere? its just gonna get you called out on a message board. now im ashamed that i am getting personal on here, and stooping to others levels, but heres the rub, IM ONLY ON HERE TO ATTEMPT TO TALK TO FANS ABOUT THE MOVIES... THE END... so far i have been UNSUCCESSFUL, mainly because noone wants to have, and im gonna say it, grown up conversations about the films. now, do i think that maybe brad fuller fueled his own fire a little by comming out and calling out the douche-bag-ery on this site? yes. but was he completely justified, yes. so please, either play nice or go the fuck home.
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 | DurantesInferno 2:21am, August 3, 2009
moondogmatinee is right!!
But seriously theirs a trailer for this film? and whats really Funny about this subject,essptionally Jackie,as freddy,(I call him Rosach Freddy)is that,he seems like an all around really cool,calm,and nice guy,but he goes for like the darkest,scareist,most badass roles out their. But does anyone,have the trialer? or Brian,can you please post up the trailer? apperently everyone says its pretty good! So,Is ANYONE out there EXCITED about this Reboot/Reimaging? |
 | MrsKrueger 11:46pm, August 8, 2009
Abortion sounded about right to me.
I would be fine with it if Robert was Freddy and if Platinum shitbombs werent the ones responsible.
and eggman is simply trying to get you all to see just how worthless these people are and the movies theyve ruined. just as you may praise them if you like their grift-wrapped crap, he may say his point of view. And specifically THIS one movie. for me at least. Nightmare is my all time favorite and always will be. so it means something to me. i wasnt on here rejecting any other of the remakes,well i did once on Friday the 13th..but jason is important too.. but as for all their others, they havent personally offended me,as they have with this one. because I cannot stand what theyve done to others,and when they go after my love of the film industry, im going to be pissed. especially because in my opinion theyve done such a shit-tastic job with the others. |
 | weefus 8:57am, August 9, 2009
this is to MrsKrueger - i have never seen a more bitter person than what you are, and who are YOU to keep bad mouthing what happens in the movie world!.. i 100% truly hope that the new nightmare on elm street makes you eat your words!.. i hope that you go and see the movie (coz we all know you will no matter what you say on here) and i hope you come back on here and apologise for writing the sh*t that you've written!.. i'm tired of logging on here and expecting to see something new when all i see is you ranting and raving about a movie YOU AINT EVEN SEEN YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. do us all a favour and fuck off! |
 | Poe1970 12:06am, August 10, 2009
I am usually one who doesn't care to much for remakes, at least most of them. Some are really good like John Carpenter's The Thing. Although I am not a fan of Friday the 13th or Texas Chainsaw Massacre (which wag a lot better then Friday the 13th by the way), I am looking forward to seeing what you will be doing with Nightmare on Elm Street. I would also like to suggest a movie to be remade, even though people will scream about. I think the time is right for Phantasm to be remade. If the dreamlike/nightmarish quality is kept through out, than you might have a real winner on your hands. |
 | MrsKrueger 11:55pm, August 10, 2009
I hope they make me eat my words too weefus, I really do. That would be amazing. I hope they took advantage of all that they can with everything we have available today and I hope they make one of the greatest movies ever.
But until they do. Ill rant.(: |
 | weefus 6:05pm, August 11, 2009
response to Mrs Krueger, continue to rant all ya like!.. people like you & that twat of an exsistance called egg man have ruined my experience on this/these forum(s).. i dunno what kind of monitoring that goes on here but it looks to me that it doesn't exsist??.. seems to me that whoever owns these forums encourages people like you to say what you're saying, because they're letting you do it day after day!!.. basically, if they dont care, then neither do i anymore!.. have fun you guys! |
 | DurantesInferno 2:00pm, August 20, 2009
response to EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN RANTIGN and RAVING NEGATIVLY AVBOUT NEW NIGHTMARE!
In the imortal words of The Door's Jim Morris "YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING SLAVES!"
Now,to everyone else,who hasn't been rantign and raving, negativly,about this new film. I say keep an open mind,and good for you all!! I say,that this film has some good qualitlies Jakie Earl Haley is pretty good, I Think he'll make an excellent freddy,the posters look pretty badass,and if he looks liek a real burn victom,he might look like aaron eckhearts two face, which looks bitchign!! so, I Can't wait!! I SERIOUSLY CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE TO COME OUT!! |
 | DurantesInferno 11:11am, September 3, 2009
Now that where back ont rack,I Have a question,If this is a reimaging,so the backstory is in 1997,while the whole film takes place in 2010,right? like what is the main tiem frame,and how are the dreams gonna be? our they gonna be dark,and symbolic like the other dreams where? or jsut kinda,All over the place? |
 | boone 4:19pm, September 26, 2009
I truly cannot wait to see the new nightmare movie. To see freddy scare the shit out of a new generation that knows nothing of a good scare at the box office. I dont know what you guys at pd are thinking next and although i havent quite jumped on the remake bandwagon i do agree with you on the fact that these are the new draculas and that they are iconic and deserve a facelift with a better budget and such but what about Pinhead! I watched the original Hellraiser the other day and it still is one of the scariest movies of all time! Freddy is my favorite but its Pinhead's turn!!!! |
 | DurantesInferno 4:47am, September 28, 2009
oh!to Boone! Pinheads already being remade with clive baker "sheperding" it.
But whats most like awsome abotu the whole thing,of freddy is the TRIALER HAS JSUT BEEN RELASH! And I Saw it!! LOOKS FUCKING AWSOEM!! I mean, Freddy,is BACK Guys,and looks very different,but still ahs that charm. |
 | Caseybecker 10:03am, September 30, 2009
Firstly, I’d like to say one of the reasons I have stopped coming to this forum and complaining about this disrespectful re-make of an utter classic, is because all our words are falling on deaf ears. You’ve proved, after stating yourself about all the problems you’ve had with fans against this movie, that you weren’t going to listen and actually didn’t care at all what a huge majority of fans thought at all. Secondly, after I learnt you were taking our complaints and suggestions – which weren’t meant to make your film better, but to criticise your original ideas, not steal ours too – that was another reason. If you’re so good at your job, why do you need fans to tell you how to make a film? You’re basically saying that you won’t listen to the fans complaints but you’ll use our ideas to make “your” film better. People aren’t going to return to forums constantly to be ignored and spoken down to. People will now just not go and see your re-make. What I’ve always had a huge problem with is the fact that you keep trying to make out these films are your ideas or a “re-boot”, I’d like to know just what your definition of a reboot is, because from the screenplay and even the trailer, all you’ve done is steal other Writer’s and directors ideas and are trying to pass them off as your own. You have an amazing character and you still have to take Tina’s death scene and Nancy’s bath scene (I’m sure there will be plenty more from NOES 4 for instance.) Also, why are your films always advertised under the original films title? Rob Zombie at least has the decency, because I think HE probably does love the Halloween films, to put his name before the title so as not to mislead any punters. The reason you haven’t put the title as ANOES 2010, or Platinum Dunes NOES is because you’re cashing in on one of the most successful, if not , THE most successful modern franchise and trying to pass it off to younger viewers who might not have seen the original, as a film you’ve created. Another subject you’ve never commented on is why you haven’t spoken to Wes Craven – this for me is the defining point in why I will be boycotting this film. Even if you know you won’t get his blessing, it’s common decency to contact the man who created these characters which you’ll be making money from and at least say “I’m sorry you’re not happy about this, but it’s something I really want to do.” You don’t have to tell him the truth, that you actually don’t have an original idea in your head, for example, and that a true fan (which your obviously not) wouldn’t want to re-make their favourite horror films. It’s a complete contradiction, how do you justify uttering such nonsense? Again, I’ll go back to the point that Freddy is not like Dracula, Frankenstein or even Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees. Freddy stands alone as a character that was created on film by an actor, the other characters you refer to are either from literature or where masks, they have no personality – it looks like you’ve stripped away Freddy’s personality as well, so I guess he’ll be like the rest now. Another question unanswered, why don’t you want to create new characters for this generation? Most of us can say we have a horror villain of our generation, all this poor lot is getting are badly made re-makes, the only good thing coming from it all is people then start going back to the original movies. You say about original horror, where is it? You’re obsessed with your “re-boots.” A brand name, successful horror (which you’re making for a new generation LOL) is bound to out shadow a new film with new ideas, because everyone has heard of these classics and the villains. The Unborn was full of imagery from other famous horrors such as The Exorcist, it also received an overwhelmingly negative reaction from critics – which just adds to the fact that you’re scared to take chances on original horror (because your actually not that good at it IMO) when you know you can get a huge opening weekend with your remakes. The one thing you do have completely right is that by you re-making these films, it doesn’t invalidate the original. In fact, thank-you in a way, because your attempts at art (what a joke coming from someone who cannot create, but only copy) are usually so bad, it brings a huge fanbase back to the original movies. What you are doing is tainting the memory of these films and misleading ppl into thinking the movies are new. Your version of Friday The 13th has got to be one of the most dire horror movies of the last 10 years; the trailer was edited to make it look promising. You’ve done the same again with nightmare probably, but ppl will get fed up of your re-makes. A backlash will hit you, and I hope it hits you hard. For myself and many, many other fans though – even if this re-make was Oscar worthy, you have gone lower than low by knowingly stealing another ORIGINAL artist’s material and not even asking their blessing. In fact you have gone a step worse because you are obviously fully aware that Wes Craven didn’t want HIS film remade. You have no respect therefore for true talent. Yes, he sold the rights, well maybe it’s about time he fought to get them back to stop crooks like you guys. The main reason ppl were so angry about what you were and are doing was because of the way you treated Robert Englund as well. You can come out with all the nonsense you like, but he created the character of Freddy with Wes Craven – it’s been his entire career and he would have wanted to play the part. It’s obvious that you put him in a position where it wasn’t possible, hence him not joining your motley crew to make a cameo. The way you have treated Craven is beyond disrespectful – you say you love his film, the characters and story he created, but you completely ignore his wishes. More importantly again, you ignored the wishes of thousands of fans, you are quoted here as saying you could see all the dislike for this classic being re-made by you, and yet you didn’t care – because all you care about is yourself and money. There is no artistic integrity in stealing others ideas and passing them off as your own. The fans who won’t be watching this re-boot have left these forums weeks ago when they knew their words were being ignored. If you have no respect for Wes Craven why would you have respect for strangers? The only reason this forum looks better is because the brown nosers have stayed around to kiss your ass. If you want true feedback you would accept the negative, but I honestly don’t think you’ll do anything for anyone but yourself and your business. |
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This is the official blog page for Brad Fuller. Platinum Dunes has produced The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning and the forthcoming Unborn, Horsemen, Friday the 13th, The Birds and A Nightmare on Elm Street. Watch this spot for inside stories, scoops, first looks and more!
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