We got a pretty early report for you guys regarding Platinum Dunes' planned remake of A Nightmare on Elm Street. We're told that the deal is yet to be signed, but if everything goes as planned the Dunes would like to hire genre favs Damian Shannon and Mark Swift to handle the difficult task of bringing Freddy Krueger back to the big screen. The duo currently wrote the screenplay for the remake of Friday the 13th and New Line Cinema's 2003 epic battle of Freddy vs Jason, which tells me these just might be the right guys for the job. Watch for more news as it comes in and keep your eyes over at the Platinum Dunes blog for official confirmations.
well, no matter your opinions on F v J, if you know anything regarding that movie, these guys know the franchises like every other true fan out there. They know what NOT to do and that is prolly the most important factors.
HOWEVER, its an insult to suggest that this movie can be done with out Englund, no matter what spin you put on it, if he isn't Freddy I know for a fact I wont see this until it hits cable cause it's the only voice we as fans can use to these film makers that remaking movies is one thing, but taking series stables out, esspecially one that IS the franchise just won't fly.
Well even Englund himself said that playing Freddy is no easy task anymore being "He's not a kid anymore". I am sure that Englund will have some kind of roll in the movie, but his days as Freddy might be over. I think Ben Foster would be a good fit for the role. He's a great character actor and he might be able to pull it off. I think if Robert Englund is happy, the rest of us will be happy as well. But if they can do the production with a stunt double and take their time with the old guy...that'd be just fine with me too.
Not too bad. As long as the movie is never made, Platinum Dunes goes out of business and everyone involved issues a formal letter of apology to all horror fans as well as some restitution money for their previous terrible movies and Michael Bay is run off to the mountains where he lives the rest of his life writing poems about how much he misses Lamborghinis and cocaine I'm happy with this choice.
Oh Fuck Off Vern and get your hear outta your ass. Give me a Platinum Dunes remake anyday over most of the other studios remakes. At least they do not attempt to make PG-13 horror.
I prefer Platinum Dunes doing this movie to Dimension/Weinstein's but it will never hold a candle to the original unless it has someone with real vision backing it.
FvJ was ok from the standpoint of the attraction of Freddy & Jason in the same movie but without the gimmick it was another lacklustre sequel.
Swift and Shannon are too untested to be given what could be a great movie.
Don't shoot be down but Rob Zombie would of been more suited to this project then Halloween.
as long as itaint no pg13 movie.....and they cast someone who can be as good as robert enlund check hat englund IS freddy.....unless he just has acaeo in it ill be happy......this beter be good and stay true to the franchise. i hope they bring back some familar faces to the series. (heather langekamp, jacob, john saxon to name a few).
"The duo...wrote the screenplay for... Freddy vs Jason, which tells me these just might be the right guys for the job."
Oh sure 'cause they stayed so true to the established mythologies of the two characters in F v J.
Yeah, they're perfect--to fuck it up!
Seriously though, if they can come up with more cool shit like the pot smoking Freddy worm then I'm all for it.
I hope Shannon and Swift do write it. I trust them. Their hiring made me comfortable with F13, and I definitely need a security blanket again on this one.
Did an ok job with Texas chainsaw! but then Leatherface isnt Freddy neither is Jason for that matter Robert made that role...are they trying to piss off the fans? Why not make something different Platinum Dunes seem to be the nothing but remake factory standing on the shoulders of masters to rake in the dollar...does that seem right? Here I am moaning and I will probably go see the fucker anyway
On Freddy V Jason what is with Jason getting all the blood and glory? If the writers from that are doing this that means the ending will be one big silly gurlie fest with hugs and the pussy whipped Krueger...well screw that whatever happened to the grim endings that should be in horror.
Shannon and Swift are a HORRIBLE choice for a remake. FvJ was a HORRIBLE movie altogether. First of all, it couldn't get any more goofier than Freddy pinballing Jason around. SEcond, you don't bad mouth Freddy like Kia did. Freddy's suposed to be a shadow stalking nightmare monster. He has no equal in the dream world. He can't be overpowered. He can slice through people like they were a thanksgiving turkey. Damn those kids and their wannabe rebellious attitudes. It's so stupid when modern horror tries to protray modern kids as being soooo much more tougher and smarter than kids from, say, the 80s. That's sooooo untrue. Toughness and smarts never changed. You have modern kids THINKING they are more tough only because pop culture puts that into their head. The truth is, kids are just as chickenshit as they were back then.
You know, why the hell does Freddy need to be recast? The story is that he is a child molestor/killer right, and usually these are seedy old men, not MTV fucking kids.
Cast Englund goddammit! If Christopher Lee can be made to look like he is friggin backflippin around with a light sabre, Im sure they can find a double for any "chase" scenes there might be...
But not comedy Freddy, i want fucked up child killer Freddy!!!!
The problem is, I was actually reserving my judgement for the trailer. Even though I stand on my belief that most modern remakes are souless, hollow marketing ploys to appeal the the shallow MTV generation that suffers from ADHD, there ALWAYS is the chance the project could fall into the hands of a writer and director that respects the franchise. Respects it to the point that modern pop culture be damned, as do all the people wanting another CW/MTV horror movie. Someone aiming, above all, to make a GREAT horror movie, even if it doesn't have a Dawson's Creek-type cast. When they released that Shannon and Swift will likely take the helm, all sliver of a hope was washed down the drain. Game over, man. Game over! And, it's not like Swift and Shannon care about Freddy. That's evident in FvJ. Freddy was Jason's bitch. When you allow someone like Kia to spout crap at Freddy, you know the writers don't give a damn about NOES or it's fanbase. And that's what the remake will be.
magnaderalpha, you make me moan. FvJ original scripts are out there. That Kia speech to Freddy wasnt in script. It's talked about in CRYSTAL LAKE MEMORIES too. The bit was Kia mistakes Jason for Freddy and says to him something like "I take back all the fear I gave you, I'm not afraid of you anymore." Then Freddy steps up with a "Wrong one, bitch" and Jason ends her. Not brilliant but better than the crap she spouted in the movie. Let me guess... next you are going to tell me that they wrote that Jason was afraid of water too (nope, not in script either).
I hope they give a ton of never heard of actors a shot at the Freddy role and find a really good one so that there is no expectation for how the role will be pulled off.
If this movie is ever going to be respected by the true Elm street fans then freddy had better be depicted like he originally was in Elm street 1. Im talking about the Freddy that you was dark and actually scary. You barely got a full glimpse of him throughout the movie and when you did he looked as if the fire that scalded his face was just put out. This is the Freddy that I want to see.
I was with the idea of a remake up until I heard who the writers were going to be. I don't care how many of you loved it, and how bad you bust me for saying it, but FvJ almost killed both franchises. It was unoriginal, poorly acted, and badly done. They cribbed lines from the other movies, even if they did try to change it or spice it up e.g. "How sweet...dark meat" They stole ideas from the other movies as well. It was just badly done.
I was with them even about the idea of a new Freddy Krueger, just to see someone else's take on the iconic madman. But I lost about all the appeal I had for this remake when I heard these two yahoos are going to write the script. Isn't there some other bad horror movie that needs a couple writers? Why don't they see what they can do to destroy Amityville or make the Grudge 43? Seriously. Get some real writers with real ideas.
I'm glad Platinum Dunes is taking this rather than some of these other shitbag companies. At least you know THESE guys actually give a fuck about what remakes theyre churning out, for the most part. And as for Shannon and Smith, I'll reserve my ballbreaking until after F13 comes out...As of now, I think they suck but that's entirely based on FvsJ. So let's see. And for anybody still bitching about PG13 ratings, grow a fucking brain and think about it. Did you not read PD's take on R ratings? They love them.
The other day I was at Disneyworld, no hear me out! One of the rides showcased clips from movies through the ages, and there on a fuck off huge screen was Robert Englund's Krueger (from Nightmare 1)in all his glory. They could have chosen any horror clip to put up there, but it was Englunds Krueger that was so iconic they chose it. Later on I walked into a movie memoribillia store. The first thing I was greeted with was a Robert Englund Krueger statue.
Do you see where I'm going? Englund MUST be Krueger, the popularity of the film's is all down to his performance, to recast would be a disaster. Platinum Dumes claim to read the posts on here, so here's hoping they read this one. No matter what else you do do with the movie (an another sequel would have sufficed), CAST ROB ENGLUND!
As for the choice of writers, one of the main things lacking from Freddy Vs Jason was memorable dream sequences, so I'm not sure these guys are right for a full on Nightmare movie. I'm assuming Wes Craven was approached first?
Englund will always be THE Krueger - but I will see this movie with or without him. That is the least of my fears.
My real fear is that this movie will end up like AVP and AVP:R and F v J - just real lame - PG-13 - crap.
It needs to be a dark, heavy R.
all they are going to do is cgi this remake to death. there are just some movies you can never remake to be as good as the first and this is one of them.
Its impossiable to put into words how much every (serious) fan of A nightmare On Elm Street's movies dont want this to happen. Ok if they can somehow get Robert to play Freddy then yes other wise IT SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE! Over the 24 years since it was made he has played Freddy in 6 other Nightmare films and FvJ ALSO played freddy in a show running for 2 seasons. What i am saying is Robert IS Freddy its all that we know. Apart of Freddy IS Robert you cant play the same character for 24 years and then just get some new guy to do it. Robert gives freddy his life in a way makes him the scary, cool and evil horror killer he is. And well with out him they shouldnt even think of re-making this film.
you know...
Ben Foster actually wouldnt be too far off from the look.
but i REALLY REALLY hope there is back story to Freddy..
they NEVER went into that..other than parents took him out. thats not enough. i want more visual!
AND NO COMEDY DAMNIT.
Ok people, here's the facts. F vs J introduced the idea of Freddy being a "child molester" as well as a child murderer. In the original Elmstreet, before F vs J he was simply a child murderer. Wes Craven was the only one who directed Nightmare 1, Nightmare 3 and New Nightmare (which was second scariest to the original). The other Nightmares (2,4,5,6,) were done by other directors. If you think about it Nightmare 2 was actually pretty damn good, seeing as, it was still scary and kept up with the original mythos (being as, Freddy should be nothing but SCARY AS FUCK). No stupid fuckin jokes were thrown in until part 3 although, part 3 was still creepy and scary in its' own way, thanks to Wes Craven. Nightmares 4-6 left alot to be desired because they started drifting away from the violence. I think this is due to the fact that Freddy, at that point, was more of an icon and more little kids were going to see him. So, the "less gore, more goofy" formula was added. Those particular directors were first-timers with the material and were hackneyed and stilted at best. Although, Freddy's Dead DID get the mythos right, even if the acting from some of the new actors sucked ass. That cast couldn't have been more wrong for the parts. Stupid Bob Shaye. That's my rant on growing up with Freddy. I watched these films since I was about 9 or 10 all the way through to high school. I watched the dawn and death of Freddy. Freddy vs Jason was great in the mythos, but the comedic acts were complete garbage. STOP WRITING COMEDY INTO HORROR you fucking morons. How do you expect shit to be scary if you have comedy in it. Write the comedy in, maybe at the beginning of the flick. Something to make them laugh a little before you scare the fuck out of them.
We all knew a remake was coming eventually. Wait until you actually see the movie, or at least a preview, or a confirmed plot line, cast list, ANYTHING before you bitch about it.
Freddy vs Jason was a horrible screenplay. The characters were so wooden thin i couldn't even see them.
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