This is bull-shit! There will be a sequel for sure! Who are they trying to fool here? As long as they make a profit they will continue to make them. Hence the Saw series, The Hills Have Eyes 2, TCM - The Beginning and the many others.

After this piece of shit can you blame him? Somehow, someway though I suspect that this is a ploy by Weinstein, Weinstein, and Zombie et. al to get a surge in viewership through a sense of finality. It had a great weekend, I have to concede. It's overall success will be determined by the rate of declination over the coming few weeks. Tymishu, you're going to be happy.....the next 50 should be up tonight for your viewing pleasure.....

I saw it and love it.Maybe it is time to close the franchise if it is the end atleast ended with a bang instead of a whimper.

I'm looking forward to it Sauron! LOL! One question though and be fair because I know that you are. Was there anything that you enjoyed? There has to be at least 1 or 2 things that you liked and don't take the easy way out and say the credits! LOL!

jesus this constant ragging from you sauron.. the movie is a success, people who saw it except for critics loved it. who cares if there is a sequel? i like this one just fine by itself.. but danielle harris's annie would still be alive if there were a sequel.. can you say "boobies"

I don't think its a good idea to end the halloween series. :( I'd be very dissapointed! But if this movie did well at the boxoffice there has to be a sequel - i guess thats how theese things work.

There will be a sequel and hell i hope theres 5 more fuck it I love Halloween to death 1 more,1more,1more

No sequel would be fine by me,box office bank or no,but since when has hollywood left well enough alone?

....And Robert Englund needs to shut his damn hole.....

ymishu, I wanted to putr the 50 up first, but since you asked, I'll give you a couple of things that I thought weren't that bad. A) Sherri Moon (believe me, I'm as shocked as anyone to admit this because many of us took turns w the whore label. She actually generated more sympathy and credibility with her clothes on. B) Daeg Fraech: kind of captured the character that ROB wrote (though I don't think that it was good as Myers). His schizoid schpiel was a weakness (that's going on the list) but overall I thought he did a pretty good job. C) Tyler Mane: for the most part, he did his job to carry the proper menace. Maybe I could see where a lot of the lovers of this movie are coming from in terms of Mane being the second-best MYERS in the franchise. NO FUCKING WAY though that this ranks even in the top 4 of the franchise AS A MOVIE. D) Danielle Harris and Boobies. Enough said. E) The one segment that I actually thought worked for the movie was the photo scene. From the POV that this is all Myers has as a link to his halcyonic past and that Laurie is desperately grasping for straws trying to understand the significance had A LOT of poential. But again, sloppy writing and really bad technical work killed something that could have been good. F) William Forsythe's mouthiness. While the dialogue was hurried and childish, the humor and trashiness of it was fairly enjoyable. A thought occurred to me yesterday while discussing this with the others who went with me to the opening. ROB would be way better served to work with some experienced industry technical people the next time he makes a movie. Much of the shitiness of this movie could be righted with a less sloppy production. ROB would still retain creative control and his vision would prevail, but I think he needs to either grow as a filmaker beyond his core set people or quit altogether. This type of filmmaking has a real short shelf-life and he could still retain artistic integrity but simply employ better technicians to craft a more cohesive product. Anyway, just a thought. The final 50 should be up later.....

I just saw it and I liked the overall atmosphere of the movie. Although it was slow in some parts i would'nt trade it in. I get the impression that Rob left alot up to interpretation than picking it apart to death. Which is what most critics do and have been doing since the scrpt hit online.

I was worried about this movie, but I saw it and loved it. Sure, it didn't hold a candle to the original but it was a different movie. I've got to hand it to Rob Zombie, he did a great job. They should keep the series going because I'm sure as much as everyone says negative stuff about this one if there were a sequel you'd go see it just like I would.

I would like to thank Rob Zombie for leaving such bad taste in the producers mouth that they have sworn off any sequels. Yes the movie made money it's first weekend, but that was mainly based on curiosity and word of mouth. Everyone who saw this liked it? Who the hell are you talking about? The reviews from fans all over are nothing but negative. Rpb accomplished his goal. He killed the franchise once and for all. I'd love to hear what he has to say over this recent thrashing of his "good name"

This movie was terrible. Anyone who says anything positive about it in an capacity is brain-dead dumb-fuck and needs to have the shit slapped out of them. The Weinsteins don't want to make any more because they have more taste than you inbred half-wits and know they financed a really shitty travesty of a remake.

Who cares you didnt like it so what. That means it sucks just because"you" didnt like it? Thats ass backwards and closed minded.I liked it for one and when leaving the theater people were liked that kicked ass. It did kick ass.Id pay to see it again.

Sorry, it was not just the critics that didn't like it. Just take a look at all these posts, posts from other sites, and actual Halloween website masters. Oh well. It did what they wanted it to, it made good bucks over the weekend. That was expected. Just with the interest alone, that doesn't surpise me. I wish it would've turned out better, but it just DIDN'T!

Well....like i said ,it wasnt perfect,but i'd rather see it than whatever loogie hollywoods hawked out on their "Dorks are funny people too,And they can make movies" couch trip de jour.....Save for "death sentence" that seems kinda cool.....

For all those Rob lovers out there who feel bad because his movie is being trashed, go to the following site. They are interviewing the actors of Halloween and they are falling over themselves kissing Rob's butt. http://www.myspace.com/99704870. You guys won't feel so bad now. BTW, I actually like a lot of Rob's music. It is great to exercise too. A lot of it rocks! It is just his movie making that lacks. I agree that it would be a better production with better production professionals. He should also go to script writing/dialogue class. If he engages in that who knows what will happen.

Rob's movie was fine. To many fucking people wanted it to be like Carpenter's. Get over it. Where's your movie?

really people, see it a second time, much better when you see it again. believe me, the first time i saw it friday, it was good but nothing mind-blowing. i saw it again later, wow. amazing.

Flawed movie? The original was just as flawed. I'll give you some examples of how flawed was original was. Someone in an earlier post said that Michael killed Linda in this movie just to kill her? Was she not killed in the original for no good reason? In this version, she screamed nasty things at him him while walking with Laurie and Annie. In this movie we saw, Mikey didn't like to be messed with. By the way wasn't Annie killed in Carpenter's version for no good reason? How about going away as a little boy and 15 years later not only can you somehow drive, but can also navigate highways and the town of Haddonfield that shouldn't really be remembered all too well since, I would assume he would be rather small to see out of the car. How about Loomis and the Sheriff patrolling the neighbohood all day and night, but never seeing the stolen car parked a mere few yards away with it's wheels curved outwards to the street until it was conveniant to the plot. Point is, both movies are flawed in some way. Carpenter's classic isn't without warts. By the way, didn't Carpenter take the money and run after part one. He wanted nothing to do with part two because, as we have all come to find, he has been a flop of major proportions since then. One decent film after that... "The Thing" (a re-imagining curiously!). Halloween was easy for him because, he was inventing the genre of the slasher film with it. No where to go except to the top. No other slasher film can ever live up to that standard and Carpenter knew this. I didn't care for Zombie making Michael sympothetic in this movie, but come on. He is after his sister for crying out loud. Carpenter didn't make Laurie his sister until the sequel, because he too would have had one heck of time trying to explain why Michael was trying to KILL his sister in the first place had it been in his plot. By the way, I'd say another flaw. Zombie had to work around that flaw and should be commended for having the balls to even try. Can't say the same for Carpenter! I never watched a Zombie film prior to this, so I do not have a reference point, but will say he deserves a sequel, if these chicken s**t producers will pay him. I guess another pitiful sequel with actors from Dawson's creek and rapper 50 cent would please some on this site.

I thought it was a pretty damn good horror movie on its own. The "second act" kind of lagged but it served its purpose. The third act is pretty creepy if you get into it. I watched it with a group of people after drinking and I thought it was decent. Then I went back and saw it by myself and I think the people I was with is what make it seem subpar to me. When I saw it by myself and pushed the original out of my head, I thought it was pretty damn good. I heard several people say it was the best Halloween next to the original. I thought it was atmospheric, realistic (except for the over thte top white trash shit and Loomis' overacting), and genuinely creepy. Those of you that won't stop bitching went into the movie wanting to hate it, and guess what? You ended up hating it. Go figure. Thorn sucks ass.

There have been so many different rumors about the Freddy VS Jason sequal. If done right and with the right plot, Freddy Vs Jason Vs Michael could work, but its a stretch

Freddy VS Jason was nothing but a spit in the face for the people who liked those franchises. It was hooky, lame, and garbage. It's a guilty pleasure at best! If they do a Freddy Vs Jason Vs Myers...that would be worst then any damage a director could do with a remake. If that comes out and it's successful? Be prepared for Chucky Vs Myers! LOL! Could you imagine that? Or Pinhead Vs Ash Vs Leatherface! They'll keep doing them over and over! There is no need for these movies at all!

Well i work at a movie theater and everyone that has seen it has liked the movie, so the ppl that say everyone hates it dose not know what they are talking about! And J-SYXX why dont you come try to slap the shit out of me!!!

Yeah, the original had flaws a plenty...someone actually trips on a dolly track, and its kept in the movie (PJ Soles),no one notices a government issued vehicle is stalking a boy at a school? obviously,some things are petty and needed for the story's sake but it's fun to nitpick sh*t now and then.......Btw,anyone notice in the remake when lynda calls Laurie after getting banged in the Myers house? a cordless phone?? after like 16 years,we still have phone service in the Myers house???.....lmao maybe it was Mr."I wrote "suck it" on my arm cast"...coulda been in his name still......lol

Hey PW, I understand the original had flaws. I could probably name them fromc scene for scene. However, the story and the (rest of) the production made the movie the classic it has become. Like I said before, the original isn't a timeless classic for no reason. The movie was freaky, scary and suspenseful. My problem with the Zombie movie (I will say it again) is he stated we would really get to know the characters and it will be a freaky, scary, suspenseful movie. He lied! Zombie's version is basically just a slasher film put out because the title and the script and production was just not that good. Like I said, I liked parts, but a great movie it is not. I still think for a Halloween movie it is better than some sequels.

If you think of flaws, probably Halloween 6 is the worst as far as production value. That should've been scrapped and redone. Halloween II which I liked, continuity and the sequences are way out of whack. Oh well, such is horror. I just want to be freaked or scared.

Good I hope it does end. Franchise shouldn't have gone any further past H20 or Halloween II for that matter. Although I enjoy the sequels to an extent, they were always unnecessary. The remake was proven even more useless, since it offered nothing new or worthwhile to the table. Let this franchise die.

Ok here we go. This movie was f****n' dope. Too many people are TRYING to compare it to the original and/or the other sequels. DON'T. This movie is how Zombie sees it. Some of the original he agreed with, some he didn't. Its how HE wants it. I LOVE the series, I LOVE Michael Myers, do I want their to be more? HELL YEAH! BUT, I also don't mind the way he MAY have ended it. Too many people were expecting a duplicate of the original. Zombie stated from day 1, that its NOT going to be just a remake. So why you all STILL expected this is beyond me. Another thing that bugs me, is people saying "too much blood" "not enough suspense"....GET OUT OF THE 70's! That s**t might have worked back then to scare people, but nowadays people have seen it all. What worked back then, doesn't work now. You have to evolve, and spice things up. That's what Zombie did. I give him MAD props for not only taking on this movie, but also doing a damn good job with it. I also happen to think Tyler played the perfect Myers. What would you be more scared of? a 6'0 skinny dude coming after you? or a 7'0 monster? I also liked how instead of focusing on a "supernatural" reason for killing (like the other films) Zombie portrayed Myers as just a f****n whack job. Its more believable and scarier to think this dude is just f****d up, and loves killing, then some hidden force possessing him to do it. What really pissed me off, was before I went and saw this movie, I read Mr. Disgusting review. He couldn't have been more wrong. Myers "Lacking" the stalker style? Did he even watch the damn movie? He's watching the girls as they are in the library, then following them down the street, then standing outside their houses, standing behind them in their houses.....How is that lacking? His complaint about why Sheri moon is dating a "uber old, cripple" is f*****g stupid. 1. he's not even that old and 2 he WASN'T crippled when they met. That is stated in the movie. He's not even a cripple, he just has a f*****g broken arm/hand. I don't mind people giving their opinions at all, but if you're going to bitch, at least make sure what you're bitching about isn't false. Otherwise you'll just sound retarded.....Yea.....and I mean short bus retarded.

The movie owned

to Dekayd, wow you are just dumb. i like reading through people's opinions and see what their reasons are. but really you are embarrassing. do you have any ideas about basic concepts such as suspense, conflict, etc?

I don't think this movie is a comparison to the origninal, because 99.9% of the true Halloween fans know that there is NO comparison! For me it wasn't the revisioning or the story. It was the script, dialogue, and the production value. That is what did it in for me. Rob's revisioning is fine, it is the way it is presented to the general public that is the problem.

come on, guys... you have to admit it was pretty awesome when the the shatner mask was pulled out for the first time in this movie... totally caught me off guard

Just because it did good in the opening weekend doesn't mean its a good movie. In the long run its not going to be that good. But you cannot compare Rob's "revisioning" to the original.

regardless of what everyone is saying, i thought it was an awesome movie. there were some things that rob took out of the movie that i thought would've been good to keep in, but overall, i was blown away with how good it was... i was expecting much worse. and for the weinsteins to say they're not down for a sequel, well that just sucks. already, i have been coming up with an awesome continuation of rob's story along with aspects from both films' (carpenter's and rob's) that would blend together, plus just awesome ideas to play off of considering how things were left at the end of this film. bottom line, with how well this is doing at the box office, even despite how bad it's getting treated critically... i have to say that they're fucking stupid to not continue the franchise as a new beginning. hopefully, if this is so, and the weinsteins definitely don't want to do it, the rights will be available so someone else can. maybe even a company that could bring the sequel with an even fresher taste (lionsgate anyone?). anyways, that's my thoughts. everyone can yell at me now.

i cant comprehend how an amped up version of myers is worse than the joke he became over the previous years. is rz's film groundbreaking? not at all, but what it is is a beautifully shot, brutal, and fun flick.

Simply because Mr. D asked, OK people, here we go: 51) A sweet little novel entitled "The Devil's Eyes" Oh how fucking precious. Wasn't it just such a brilliant stroke of genius for ROB to reference out a classic Pleasence line all the while "reimagining" it as a compendium of the psychology of a child serial killer. Again people, What THE F%^K movie were you watching. 52) Was this a Halloween movie or was it the A&E/Lifetime Behind-the-Scenes story of ROB Zombie's dysfuncional childhood. 53) Unless Andre the fucking Giant made a pit stop in a certain Illinois town, Michael was a litle too big for believability's sake (though Mane played it well). Which leads to 54) For a kid who refused to eat, he got big prety damn quick. 55) Nice take on Loomis givin up on the kid who's supposedly become his best friend to go make the duckets exploiting the murder of 4 innocent people. Donald Pleasence would be proud. 56) WQhat the fuck was up with Loomis being a hippie, slacker, incompetant dumbass. Again, Pleasence would be proud. 57) Loomis' REALLY bad hair day. 58) 4 guards on duty coverring a maximum security state-run hospital during the transfer of a highly publicized murderer who just happens to be 7'0/300lb. 59) For a guy who can barely walk, he got himself into REALLY good shape with superhuman strength and lightning quick reflexes (them coyotes don't go down easily there Tex) pretty quickly. 60) Michael Myers DOES NOT CRY like an ornery bitch people. Repeat that: Michael Myers DOES NOT CRY like an ornery bitch!!!!! 61) Brackett's response to his beloved daughter dying in his very hands seemed more reminiscent of an actor staring at a certain extremely hot 4'11 actress (who just happens to be topless) than a father crazed by his child's condition. Not a peep or a scream.....just scopin the boobies. 62) The two desperate attempts to recreate what many of us feel is the climactic moment in the original.....the pumpkin scene. ROB tried it twice. The hanging scarecrow deal was pathetic. The tombstone was less pathetic. Which leads to 63) Most of the weakness in this movie stems from sections where ROB tried to ape the original. Most of it didn't work and ROB would've been much better served to really do his own movie if he couldn't get it any closer han what we saw. 64) Clever little Mikey buried the mask and the murder weapon. Really dumbass police force couldn't find the central piece of evdance in the supposedly most highly publicized violence spree in state's history. 65) Three really unlikeable sluts as a "reimagining" of three really likeable characters who have probably survived the test of time exactly because they weren't simply cannon fodder. Which leads to 66) ROB really took the easy way out with the entire script making the ugly characters die and the pristine characters survive (which is ironically probably why virtually no one survived) I mean not everyone who sufers the fate of these characters deserves it as some sort of fucked up social payback to bring harmony and concordance to the emo and downtrodden. That's why it's a savage crime people. The terror stems from the innocence, not the ugliness. DUH! 67) Blood substituting for fear. 68) Brutality substituting for storytelling and 69) Boobies substituting for character development. 70) Michael Myers IS NOT a schizophrenic. He's conscious evil masquarading with a catatonic front. 71) Myers as a faceless/nameless evil (The Shape) that could emerge anytime, anywhere as opposed to Myers as a sympathetic/misunderstood/emo/headcase succumbing to instances of uncontrollable rage. Which leads to 72) Evil Has A Destiny. Last time I checked, Darth Vader hadn't legally applied for a petition of name change but you sure wouldn't notice it after sitting for 1hr and 49 min through this cinematic masterpiece. 73) What destiny? How does any of that make any sense or relate to what ROB put forth? 74) The last time someone had sex with a character wearing our beloved Shatner mask it was during an incestual S&M peep show richly attended by a forgotten cult of the druidic descendants of some stupid assed celtic rune seeking to 'breed the seed' of a certain famous horror icon. Did we really need to travel down that road again and stir up bad memories from 1995.

75) Pamela Susan Shoop=Danny Trejo..Pamela Susan Shoop=Danny Trejo...Pamela Susan Shoop=Danny Trejo....You see where I'm going with this people. If you are under 18 and haven't had the priviledge of watching a certain other Halloween sequel then I don't expect you to understand. In the water=Out of the water..In the water=Out of the water... and on and on it goes. Real original stuff here. Quite a "bold, new, innovative" direction for the horror movie industry. 76) Nobody asked where the hell the baby was about 5 min. into the search of Casa de Myers. Um yeah, wouldn't Sherri have been noticeably pregnant for oh say about 9 months, and wouldn't someone have known that there was a third child living in the house. But msteriously a baby is nowhere to be found. A dumbass, apathetic redneck is just able to swoop in and myseriously whisk away little Laurie strode undetected by oh say the 20-30 law enforcement officials that were converging on the scene. Nobody cared to ask after-the-fact. Nice continuity work there Robbie. 77) Michael Myers does not feel up his older siser. That shit was just sick. 78) Can anybody who's a an of the original HONESTLY say that THIS Loomis was an improvement over Pleasence. On one hand we have a quiet/tortured/dignified/lone voice in the dark whose life's work becomes the surpression of evil. On the other we have a sarcastic/lazy/poorly-groomed/incompetant huckster who apparently travels 150 miles to cover his a%s. 79) Pleasence was written as the earnest, dilligent, tireless conscience dedicating his life to reaching and then confining the boogeyman. McDowell was written as a half-assed salaried employee jumping ship at the first chance which is beautifully summed up by "this'll be my last visit Michael. yada yada yada" What a wonderful "revision." Is everyone in a position of authority a worthless slacker in ROB Zombie's world? 80) Dee Wallace Stone and Pat Skipper about to get intimate by the fire. That shit is just wrong on so many levels. 81) Like I said before, this "reimagining" is more reminiscent of Ron Howard's "reimagining" of 'The Grinch' than 'The Dawn of the Dead.' Big, bloated, and bloody (disgusting that is). 82) When exactly was this movie supposed to take place? A very confusing timeline to say the least...83) Paul Greengas actually got nauseous at the premiere. Chock one up to the Zombster. 84) Michael Myers DOES NOT keep pet rodents for freaky assed/twisted shit entertainment value...Nor does 85) Michael Myers dissect said rodents for feaky assed/twisted shit/fetishistic entertainment value. Nor does Michael Myers masteurbate to said freaky-assed twisted shit, but hey since it was excised from the script we can let that one go. That doesn't mean that ROB didn't want to put it in the script. Someone had the good sense to push the pause button on ROB's unrestrained creative "vision" with that one. Mercifully. 86) "Driller Killer" followed by 87) "look at the dumper on your daughter" followed by 88) "I did all the heavy lifting" followed by 89) "That was some real faggoty-assed shit there" followed by 90) "I WANNA GO HHOOOMMMMEEEEE!!!!!" 91) Malek Akkad, as the caretaker of this franchise, trying desperately to cash in on the spineless Hollywood flavor-of-the-month remake fad raping our beloved masterpiece to further his own ambition. As well as...92) Malek Akkad pathetically trying to curry favor by choosing a celebrity with little filmmaking credibility and an even shorter scriptwriting resume and then setting up a Myspace feeding-frenzy by a bunch of pathetic preteen sychphants desperately trying to get their avatar on that special "ROB'sFriends" list by blindly singing the praises of a filmmaker who has not paid his dues. 93) As I said before...you don't see many bands trying to cover "Stairway to Heaven" who have a career the next day. A certain someone probably should've taken a lesson from the industry that he did pay his dues in. 94) The complete lack of objectivity by independent horror resources that should've seen the proverbial writing on the wall and raised the alarm as to why the hell this movie needed to be "reimagined" in the first place. THIS site at least had the conscience and the honor to tell it like it was at the end. Let's all try to think back to how 'Fangoria' was salivating all over the industry floor so to speak when Camp Zombie doled out the favors of candy kisses and breaking exclusives in exchange for positive, glowing buzz for a project that not only hadn't earned them, but that should have been raising a few eyebrows, to say the least. 95) Rob's technical people definately need to pay for a couple of refresher courses on basic filmmaking technique 101 (continuity anyone)? 96) Way too cameo heavy (I mean, again, what was Sybill Danning required to do) 97) Loomis went down like a cheap whore. Way too disrespectful to a favorite franchise character. 98) Fucking snow in a Halloween movie. Yeah I said it before, but it was so out of line that it definately needs to get repeated again to hammer the point home. 99) Apparently the Weinsein's thought it wasn't all that as evidanced by the following quote, DESPITE THE EXTREMELY STRONG OPENING, "I never say never... but it would have to be something very, very different....." If this formula is bringing in the bucks, AND ROB was extended for 2 more pictures BEFORE the actual release of this product, then why is the boss saying we need something completely different? It sounds to me like the quote/unquote "fanboy" voice that supposedly influences nothing may actually be ringing loud and clear over at Dimension based on the overwhelmingly negative critical and fan-based views or that the Weinstein's maybe really didn't appreciate Rob Zombie's artistic vision after all.....And FINALLY the one hundredth reason why this movie was a complete nightmare.....100) despite the best efforts and arguements by the teenybopper crowd to spin this otherwise, anyone with half a friggin brain can tell you that after months and months of anticipation, sniping, and spin that this movie was a complete friggin disaster. It's really that bad folks..........

60) Michael Myers DOES NOT CRY like an ornery bitch people. Repeat that: Michael Myers DOES NOT CRY like an ornery bitch!!!!! umm.....halloween 5 much?

maybe they'll remake 'The Breakfast Club'?? lmao

...but call it "The Lunch Club"...lol

I will say this..... why is it that everyone who seems to love this movie can't seem to spell or form any type of a real sentence. Seriously look through the forums. One long paragraph, misspellings, improper language. What to expect of fans of "snorkel" and "skull fuck" eh? Guess Zombie's audience IS full of retards and inbreds after all.... Nuff SAID!!!

....and there they are...even played the Vader card...

Sauron your a mumbling bitch I'll bet your like 17 man shut the fuck up bitching,and you gave us the other 50 ''just because BD asked''did you ou bitchsuck his dick when he asked too?You stupid dicksucking faggit your 50 ramblings ''half which made no sense''was just a weakling attempt from a Freddy fan to derail the momentum of this film IMO it was the greatest emake since Night of the Living Dead Rob delivered man big time and people are tired of hearing you bitch,and BD I'm still waiting on where you place this in the series dipshit...........Bloodydisgusting.com sucks

Ok....what kind of person honestly says "bitchsuck"? Again, i'm not trying to be Captain save-a-ho,but Sauron will at least give reasons as 2 why he's not into something,and it's ok to disagree w/ someone without busting on em-there was sh*t i wasnt too keen on about this movie as well,but it was'nt all bad,so sh*t happens-tommykfw1-i doubt you could find tits in a strip club,so just shut yer gator..."bloodydisgusting .com sucks" Ha!

The movie should have stuck with it's original ending of Dr Loomis not dying and Michael being killed. The ending is actually sad as your hear the voice of the young michael going on in Loomis' head. Although there was not a lot of character development with the Carptenter side of the story, overall it was worth seeing. I mean I almost threw up when I saw the last Halloween film when Busta Rhymes kung-fu'ed Michael. He could take several gunshots, being burned, stabbed, decapitation, but the only thing that could kick his ass was a middle aged fat less than mediocre hip hop guy? Come on guys Zombie's version was way better than that crap.

Can someone please tell me what is so "reinvisioning" about this movie? The only difference in terms of story from this movie and the series is he shows Michaels childhood life for 30mins. When he escapes and gets back to Haddonfield it's John Carpenters movie done horrible. He didn't reinvision anything. He just took JC's movie and smashed it into a 40min hack job instead of 90mins. The movie just didn't "feel" like a Halloween movie. It felt like torture porn. The dialogue was terrible, the writing was amature, and the acting was B-quality. Also in the original Michael kills Annie because she calls him a jerk and pissed him off. Also in one of the deleted scenes from the original there is a scene where Linda comes to Laurie's house before she heads over to Doyle's to babysit and tells her that the guy they saw at school and followed her over there. In the original michael was the shape not Laurie's brother. So it appears he just randomly picks them out and kills them which adds to the fear factor of why is he doing this.

Another thing is...while the orignal has flaws you don't see them. It took years of scanning the film to catch alot of the things people talk about now. I am willing to bet that 99% of the people that say "well the original has flaws", only know they are there because they read it somewhere online and went back and looked for those in the movie. That my friends is called great film making. JC was able to make a movie on a low budget that had alot of technical flaws but was good enough to hide them from the audience. Ask your average non-die hard halloween fan and they wouldn't be able to tell you any technical flaws in the original because you flat out can't see them unless you are looking for them. The movie pulls you in so much that you focus on the plot/fear and miss the little things like the Doyle's having one door when Annie drops Laurie off, and has a totally different front door 5mins later.

Oh and Annie not dying in this film? Trust me I am almost 100% sure she was allowed to live strickly due to if they decide to make a sequel she could be in it to pull fans back in. Daniel Harris is a Halloween icon, and he scenes were by far the most enjoyable. I would have much prefered her in the role of Laurie. She could have added so much more to the film in that role. The new Laurie was god awful, the no acting B-level hack.

There you go Tymishu.....a cool 100. I'm going to try and repost the whole thing later in another thread for posterity's sake. (with Mr. D's permission of course).....

this tommy is annoying, try acting like an adult. if you don't like the BD website that much go back to rob's myspace.

LMFAO! WOW! Too funny!

again : "writing!" Heck I even went and saw it again, just to give it a chance, but... Anyways another example: The whole scene with the Bennet Tramer reference (to lamely establish Lauries insecurities around boys) turns into a sex joke. In the original Annie jokes a little about this, but she actually shows some concern for Laurie, the issue comes up in the dialogue about 3 or 4 times in the script, without taking us out of the events. That may sound like a comparison to the original but it really isn't. It doesn't take a lot of time to rewrite creative dialogue and then insert it within a scene where it could work - or BETTER YET come up with new ways to show us how much these people matter to each other and to us, any less than that is taking advantage of an audience's intelligence as well as another kind of thievery that really hits the wallet. There are a few scenes where more character development like this could and should have been used -- which is too bad because it's a good example of how the director failed the actors as well. All things said, It's the directors responsibility, even if the 'best boy' screws up...its the Director that, at the end of the day, takes the rap; the captain of the ship. Even the Titanic had an amazing first few days.

And again I have to agree with Sauron and a few others that have spoken, number 75 really rings a bell... even the music was a direct copy of the Halloween II scene you mentioned.

I wonder if it wouldn't have been so much of a letdown if Danny Trejo had boobs like Pamela Susan Shoop. GAWD!

Heres an idea....Sherimoon69 (great name by the way) suck my dick. Seriously. Let's not waste time bitchin on the internet (like your a real hard ass) and just come here and take it all down your throat? This movie was the shit (my opinion) don't give a fuck what you or any other motherfucker thinks, you have your retarded and close minded opinions, and thats cool. But if you want to try and get personal thats a different story. You're prolly some 13 year old kid, tryin to act hard online, all pissed and emo at the world, cuz your mom doesnt love you, and TRIED to abort you, but the dumb bitch can't do anything right anyway.

still don't know what the haters think they are going to acheive posting countless times, why they hated the movie. they are not going to change the minds of people that liked the movie.

People don't like what they read so they have to get personal... Same thing, different thread... Anyhow, you know the critical failure of this movie isn't all Zombie's fault. The Weinstein's and Akkad allowed this movie to be made the way it was made. Or... was that the best they could do with what they had and there was already a commitment there? They produced the thing, so I think that is a good question! Someone also wrote that this movie was beautifully shot. I think that could be the case if you could actually SEE the film due to it being so dark and if you could actually see what was being shot because it appeared to be filmed in an earthquake! BTW, 101) Bathroom stall getting busted up with the advertisement window on the otherside shattering - cut to a hardly bent bathroom stall with the advertising window in place. Once again continuity.

Unfortunately, Tommy turns out one of the best performances of the entire movie.

Sauron is it true BD likes it in the ass????This site sucks and Laser please dont give us the whole ''don't get Sauron angry deal'' were on the web bitch in real life I would pimp smack him like the bitch his dad is,and Sauron BD likes the taste of your spunk I hear assboy.......holla Best Remake Ever

Sauron, where did you read that Paul Greengrass became nauseated after viewing Zombie's abomination? I wanna check that shit out...

hey everyone...first post here. I'd really just like to say that I find the most interesting thing about all of this is not the bashing, not the praising, but the sheer amount of DISCUSSION Zombie's film has brought with it. I enjoyed the film and appreciate where Zombie is coming from/ going to with his film making thus-far. As a genre fan, I think it can only be a good thing to see this much passion and conversation regarding a beloved franchise vs. creativity(and it really is EVERYWHERE...)

To the "intelligent poster" above. Well......slap the shit out of this brain dead fuck...........because I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. Was it perfect? Of course not, what the hell is, but I still enjoyed it alot. I actually expected it to be alot worse. Also, for anyone who feels Zombie "killed" this franchise, and the Weinsteins are "ashamed" etc, give your head a shake. They wouldn't sign him on for 2 "yet to be determined" movies if they didn't have total faith in him. If you didn't like the movie.....good......forget about it. You can come back here and do your "I fuckin' know better than anyone how to make a movie and Zombie sucks routine" when he makes his next one.

The public loved it. Not the critics, but I've heard from so many people that they loved it and I have yet to hear from someone who didn't like it. The word of the mouth is very good. It wasn't perfect, but if it is the end, better to end the series with a great movie than a sh**ty one (*coughResurrectioncough*)

And BTW....I wouldn't call BD the most reliable source of reviews in the industry. I mean, the Shining gets a 3.5 but I Know Who Killed Me gets a 4? What gives?

let's just say i've had the privelege of seeing the alternate ending as well as a much much better version of how he escaped the institution... seeing those two versions made me very very upset about what they put in the theatrical version... i'm positive that many of you guys already know what i'm talking about.. but i suppose the scene with the two night guards was too brutal for an R rating... maybe in the unrated dvd... we'll see

Roberco I know what your talking about. The "unrated alternate" version (what I call it) had some cool scenes, but DEF lacked in an ending. The theatrical ending was def the better way to go. I do enjoy the 2 guard on 1 girl scene. Wish It could have been left in.

Huh? wtf you mean, "on the web real life",tommysw1 or whatever the fuc* your name is....i am on the web....in real life last time i checked,all you see is someone explaining why they aint into the same sh*t you are-and explaining why, i know its hard for you to wrap your brain around that seeing as how your clearly a dipsh*t who can only bust (i use that term loosely) on another dude by droppin f*g lines...so dont even address me in here, i doubt you'd know a real horror film if it broke in your (mom's) house,and jacked your anime dvds....di*kcheese

anyhoo...sorry you guys,but some people really need that extra hot cup of shut the fu*k up....

Btw, am i the only person who thinks the actress who played Judith in the remake,looks like a dude? nice body,though...to bad she was bitchy little skank,i dont blame lil Mikey for cut and shufflin her as* lmao

my god its about time someone puts the the lame halloween movies to rest, and gave birth to a new michael mayers.the bathroom scene at the truck stop people at the theater were shocked!the dark and blue lighting was just brilliant! godbless Rob thank u for this film because the last 2 simply sucked.ive seen it 3 times and its going to be while for when i get tired of it.

I'm going to play the Devil's advoate again. There was a lot of interest in this film due to the mere fact it was Halloween. A 26% drop off from one day to the next does not signify that "the public" loved this movie. A lot did, a ton didn't; otherwise you'd see those numbers reversed. I really enjoyed it for a typical gross-out, tittie infested slasher flick. A remake of Halloween, no way! Just didn't do it for me. Either did most of the sequels. Roberco, I agree with you (4:41 post). They could've kept the other version (and all those cameos would be history), got rid of the rape but kept the escape, and edited it just a little and it would've been better than the theatrical version. PL, you got that right (9:09 and 9:12)! Yea, Judith looked like Sarah Gilbert from "Roseanne."

Oh well....i'm still diggin the new action figure i picked up fri before the movie started...the theatre was pretty packed, i got a kick outta the teenager who was forced to work the entrance checking IDs and tix only b/c i'm sure there was a ton of 17 yr fu*ktards tryin to sneak in....back in the day my moms called the theater when HALLOWEEN 5 (vomits) came out....and they let me in...i was like,well, 17 lmao

I can't wait for the DVD. I want to see the special features, and if there's an "un rated" version, and if there is, is it similar to the one so many have seen? Either way the movie was BA. I think so many people didn't like it, because no matter what others said, they still sat there trying to compare it to the original. If you sit back and not even think about the original, and just watch Zombies movie, I don't see how you couldn't enjoy it. Now when you sit there, and hold the 2 side by side, yea, I could see how you would be disappointed. But don't. This movie was a very unique, and pretty different view on Myers. I dug it. What really gets to me, is when people say "Oh if you like this movie, you're retarded" or "brain dead." Who the f*** are you? Since when does disagreeing over a movie make someone dumber? Or less intelligent? You people need to just stop making everything so god damn person. Give your opinions, tell why you think something kicked ass or why it f***ing sucked. But why start to try and act all hard? Over a movie? Grow the f*** up men. I would love to see what people thought of this movie, if it was the exact same, but the only difference being Carpenter directed this "remake." Because I bet half of you, (not all) would be singing a different story. To me this film gave back Michael his brutality, his blood lust, his sadistic style. 4-5 were just down right sad, 6 was pretty damn good because he had that brutality and sickness, 7-8 he became this "poppy" figure who does cameos with s***** rappers and models. At least Zombie brought back the good old Michael. I'm def f****** happy for that. The only, and only beef I have with this film, is the acting of sheri-moon. Don't get me wrong, 1000 Corpses and Reject's she was f****** amazing! Plus she's hot as hell! But I just couldn't get into her acting in this movie. But MUCH and I mean MUCH props go out to Daeg Faerch. He actually held his own and played a damn good young Michael.

Personal* my bad

I would guess if there was anything new on the DVD, it would be the workprint. It has a lot of different scenes, etc. It is actually better then the theatrical version in many ways. Hey Dek, just a note: If Carpenter remade his own movie, it would be better than this one. He is more of an accomplished filmmaker. But he wouldn't remake this one or any other Halloween becuase he knows even HE can't duplicate his own classic! BTW, I can't understand why you couldn't get into Sherri Moon Zombie's acting. I think that was her best performance she has ever done. Also on another note: Someone mentioned that Michael killed all these characters that were bad, thus took out the fright (or something like that). I agree with that. When a killer kills a jackass, then we actually root for the killer. It is when a killer kills people that are good, it takes the story into a different direction. I noticed in the Zombie version, Mike kills a lot of a$$holes and people we just don't care about or wish they were dead. It is hard to sympathize with that, and that takes the scare factor away. That is just my observation.

...Also, we shouldn't be sympathizing with Micheal, we should be scared shitless of him!

i think laurie's parents were the craziest kill.. you didn't expect it.. and they were nice... well... from what they showed in the "other" version

Have we all missed the point of this article? Zombie's crap version of Halloween has destroyed the franchise!

He didn't destroy anything. This franchise was destroyed when they started putting out 4 and up. You can't even say that. You know damn well too that if they want to make a sequel they will. They will figure out some way to bring him back. Now if you want to say Zombie made another shitty movie for the franchise, thats ok, but to say he "destroyed" it is just dumb. There will always be the other movies, always be the shirts, toys and so on. There will always be fans. It's not dead or destroyed, and never will be.