The fact that this movie is doing well is just proof that the average American movie watcher has no taste. That, and the fact that 15 year olds are easily entertained by boobies and gore.

fucking thank you let Spooky Dan run the site I could not have said it better thank you spooky dan take BD's spot please here's a guy who reviewed the film quite well thank you and I agree the film is a great entry and my fav.remake ever!!!!!!

true horror fans will pan it b/c they didnt want a remake period I didnt either put beatutifully shot frame for frame i loved it

crescentia... or Rob Zombie has THAT many loyal fans and tommykfw1, I didnt HATE the movie. It's just mediocre and loaded with problems.

Thanks mr.D....it coulda been ALOT worse...

MEDIOCRE....please explain dude let me ask you a question f*cking critic was it better than 5,6,7,8 ok thank you it was and everyone knows it I think Rob did great with trying to explain things and did great with giving us something completely different dude you gave TCM The beginning a positive review and everyone thought it blowed so your stance on reviews have always sucked and thats just coming from ppl that i know that visit this site as I said Spooky Dan take over the site man or least the reviewing Mr BD wtf are you anyhow how did you get this site in your name i would really love to know b/c you dont seem very smart just my opinion

MrDisgusting: I just wish that filmmakers would make some intelligent horror films instead of relying on just gore and nudity. I feel old and cranky right now....I'm going to go get my cane.

hell just answer this dude Mr BD where would you put it in the series???

wow I just read where you put he has that many loyal fans so now it only did well b/c Zombie's fans lol explain why H20 did well then you have a reason for that Brad Miska doesnt know shit Im sick of this site man I'm going elsewhere this sucks im still waiting on the answer of where you would put this film in the series????

Ok - Im just going to see the movie (anyway) and now that I read all this... It might not dissapoint me! im just gonna have to wait till october

crescentia count has of one of many with no taste because I thought the movie kicked ass.

Thank you I did too I loved it I'll say it again Incredible Film to say the least one of the best in the series

i liked the movie and was entertained. I can understand the animosity because fans were expecting a halloween film not the devils rejects transplanted on to the halloween template.

This movie could've shot fire and blood out its as*,and people still woulda cried like a buncha 12 yr olds...now theres gonna be more random "It sucks" posts than before, but i pretty much expected it...fuc*ing little girls,it was better than the other 45375869860000 remakes that are being cranked out every week...

Yea is was entertaining. But of course a movie with so much hype is going to be good at the box office, thats why this and H20 did good. Idk personally I just don't think Zombie's style fit the Halloween franchise. It was an interesting and great try though. Good movie it is, being a cult classic remake it is not.

Well said BILLY DECAY. That pretty much sums up how I feel. I'm not surprized it's doing well at the box office. Plenty of hype and a well known movie title. Now that I've had 24 hrs to think more about it, I thought it was going to be better then what it was. I went with 5 friends and we were all split down the middle. 3 of us thought it was just ok,(myself included) and the other 3 hated it. Just how I thought most people will feel about it. My expectations were set pretty high and afterwards I just felt like,"That was it"? I was entertained though and felt some ideas worked, and others fell flat. Overall it was just a mediocre horror film. I would hope now that this puts to rest the idea that RZ's movie would tarnish the image of the original, no way. Most of us will still put on Carpenter's when they want to watch it. I'll buy RZ's DVD when it comes out and watch it again and see if I feel a little different next time around. Maybe it will grow on me.

I thought it was great!

I think this was a GREAT film, regardless of what the so called pure-fans said. YES it changed the way we view Halloween and Michael, YES Zombie made it more realistic and Michael into a formula serial killer..so what though? I mean we all expected Zombie to give his own take on Michael, and he has been saying it from day 1 that he wanted to do so and make him feel more "real" and less like the "boogeyman". Sure, comparing it to the original its a different story but as a movie on it's own it had everything i love in a horror flick and one of the very few films where the victims actully make an effort to look scared. Call me tasteless for liking it but so what? Been a horror fan since i was 9 and now i am 30, grew up with Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday 13th, Hellraiser etc and i really, honestly loved Zombie's version

I am a huge Halloween fan and when i went to go watch the movie i was expecting it to be bad and Rob Zombie as the director I liked his two previous film House of 1000 Corpses and The Devils Rejects they were both good movies but they were nothing like Halloween in fact they were not even 1% of Carpenters Classic but when I watched this new Halloween I was shocked I never new Rob had this in him. It was not better than the original but was better than most sequels (maybe only H20 and part 2 were better) this was avery decent film and the 30 min were very exciting i'm shocked he killed Loomis, it had decent acting shocking moments plenty of gore and nudity and probably the best or second best myers mask they've ever had awesome movie 8 out of 10 skulls.

The movie sucked. Anyone who says other-wise is a liar. All the Zombie fanboys can bend over for him and take it in the ass, I don't care. Perhaps this movie did well based off of the brand name of Halloween alone.

I wouldn't say it sucked. But saying it was awesome is a big stretch. I think even the biggest RZ loyalists would have to admit it wasn't a top notch horror classic. C'mon ? Really ?? But I can see how some, especially the younger ones, would think it was good. Violent, bloody and boobies. Those are the ingredients for a teenager's masterpiece. I'm still thinking about it and it's still the same for me. I would give it a solid C, maybe a C+ .

HOLY SHIT. HOLY MOTHER-OF-ALL-FESTERRING PIECES OF ROTTEN, FETID, DECAYING SPHINCTER-LADEN SEMENAL REGURGITATION.....It was said by a wise man on this site (I think it was either Haddon or Halloweenfan, I can't remember) that for ROB Zombie to make an OK film would be a failure. He would need to deliver an amazing film for this to be the success that he ran his mouth about in terms of "reimagining" the original. What fucking movie were YOU people watching. The one where Micael Fucking Myers TACKLED, I REPEAT, TACKLED a 5'0 100lb 11th grader like Brian Fucking Erlacher. HE'S THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN, NOT A LINEBACKER. My fucking word. No one, NOT ONE OF YOU, can bring Busta Rhymes to the table after Myers laid a fucking textbook NFL low-impact tackle on Laurie. That arguement is done, that ship has sailed. Busta-FU was horrible, but this was equally as bad. It has been said before, but it will be repeated, Busta Rhymes is not an excuse. Don't fucking lay out that anything would be better than Ressurrection because this was equally as bad in other ways. There is no way under the fucking shiny, yellow sun that this piece of cinematic placenta was even COMPARABLE, to 2, 4, or even 5 nevermind better. If you wanna go around takin a shot in the mouth by ROB and then spit it back up to sell it on ebay and thereby justify to the world that you are someone special simply by associating with a third rate hack celebrity, then knock yourself out. Other than the couple of mysterious new "reviewers" that have appeared since Thursday who apparently are card-carrying members of that special, "I need to get my avatar as close to the man's as possible", Myspace crowd, who the fuck could seriously justify, SERIOUSLY, with all of the fucking unintentionally comic technical and dialogue errors that this was good. By no means though is this movie even remotely amazing. It wasn't even mediocre or bad. This shit was fucking horrible folks. IT'S REALLY THAT FUCKING BAD.....

Lmao....YES! i was waiting until he started on those myspace as* dumplings....am i to assume you didnt like the movie,sauron? well...theres always Saw 4 ,5, 6, 7, and so on.....heh

I can relate a little though,when i rented (thank christ) that piece of worm infested sh*t that is "Behind the mask",i felt the same thing Sauron feels about this remake ANY person who even came close to like that lame sh*t,needs to eat a bullet....

Btw....Dannielle Harris is still hot,Lynda was hot in a "dirty as* slut" kinda way,and Laurie was still wearing the "repressed virgin" hat,albeit in a airheaded kinda way

I am really shocked that people liked it. I didn't hate it. However it was a very poor film. I will give him credit for his shooting system the movie looks great. I dunno, Sherri Moon was the best thing about the entire movie. I didn't think the movie was scary at all, not even a little bit. TCM Remake and TCM Begining were both better then this film, so were most of the Halloween Sequels. This film is just garbage from begining to end. I dunno what Rob Zombie's fetish is with campy white trash cinema, but I hope he has gotten over it before his next film. This movie was nothing more then House Of 1000 Corpses with a Halloween back drop. This never for one second felt like a Halloween film, and if not for the mask/names and some of the scenes stolen directly from the original movie it could have been a straight to DVD rental. Yes it's that bad.

Ah, I'm glad it's making movies because are R rated horror films this year have made little money at the box-ffice. I hope it gets the #1 spot this weekend.

hey Primalz, good points. except for rob dumbie getting over his white trash fetish for the next film...why the fuck didn't he get over it before ruining this one? laurie was toned down a little between the workprint and the theatrical, but her character is still confused and weak (by confused, i mean rob's writing of her). and loomis? mcdowell was pretty bad by his standards, and awful if you compare him to The Donald.

What I have come to enjoy time and time again is how everyone gets their panties into a bunch over a movie, without actually giving any specific reasons as to why a movie should be panned or for that matter applauded. If you are going bash a movie, sauronthepowerful, at least give us actual reasons as to why it sucked, as opposed to your little prepubescent rant like the one above. I have no problem with anyone hating this film or liking this film, but if you are going to call it trash or critically praise it, at least do so in an intelligent manner. For Christ sake, at least act like you have a brain when you are infecting the world with your opinion, that way at least we can respect what you say instead of laughing at at.

SAURON, as usual, you got the smackdown rollin. I don't share your belief that it was THAT awful, but would lean in your direction as far as I was a little dissapointed and expected more. Sorry again, but the Halloween sequels(my opinion) were lame. If your curious to know why, I could spend about 20,000 words bashing those atrocities. My taste in horror is more into reality and things that could and do happen, not fantasy Freddy, Jason B.S., which is where the franchise took Michael. Freakin corny. Keep up the banter, I'm diggin it...PEACE.

Oh.....I'm sorry.....You want details as to why this sucked. No problem. Here goes...with lunchpail in hand (thanks laser).....For everyone who thinks they're gonna talk shit about details and why the movie sucked here are 50 concrete reasons why this piece of shit ranks up there with the great ones such as Godzilla, Street Fighter, Disturbing Behavior, The Fog (2005), Cutthroat Island and Cabin Boy. The list, here goes: 1) Christmas Carols in a Halloween movie followed by 2) Snow in a Halloween movie 3) A fucking pussy serial killer-in-training absently tossing candy corn on the verge of tears while Nazareth blares in the background 4) The fucking abhorrently childish dialogue 5) The pacing of said dialogue 6) The delivery of said dialogue 7) Malcolm McDowell's performance (abyssmal doesn't quite cover it, give me a few minutes to think up a really good simile) 8) The script (this even exceeded MY direst warnings and I am completely fucking giddy over it, my friends) 9) The last minute rewries and revisions to said script 10) The Shaky cam. Again Michael Myers is not Jason Fucking Bourne. Get over it ROB. It didn't work. 11) Did we really need to know about Joe Grizzley passing a taco-surprise on the can. Again the childish dialogue 12) This is Halloween, NOT fucking Dazed and Confused. The soundtrack was completely inappropriate for a supposedly taut thriller looking to delve deep into the psychological manifestations of a serial killer. 13) Which leads me to Don't Fear the Reaper. Yeah it's great as a shout out to the original, but then repeatedly bringing it back MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE times as a see-how-clever my imagination could be was absolutely absurd. 14) Tom Sawyer...in a Halloween movie??? Odd, at best 15) Myers' acquisition of the uniform. Compare the elegant simplicity with one drop of blood from the original to the over-the-top ass-whoopin that foskee took. Right there lays the heart of this entire project. ROB's ego let it be known that he could make it bigger and bloodier than the movie he once loved as a kid. Right on there brother man! 16) Myers walking miles and miles unchecked and unnoticed practically barefoot and in his prison garb 17) A 10 year old child serial killer able to muredr a government employee in broad daylight, unsupervised despite being labelled one of the most brutal multiple murders ever. 18) Mickey Fucking Dolenz 19) Udo Fucking Kier (what was his role again???) 20) Back to the dialogue for a moment. The way in which the dialogue from the original was repeated and alterred. It was stilted and unbalanced. 21) How many F-Bombs are we gonna pad tis piece of shit with to make it seem edgier and more generationally cool. Childish, dated, and amateur. 22) Did Carpenter need gratuitous titty shots to earn critical praise. Not really. But here ROB parades the boobies in a pathetic effort to instill a collective boner in the under 16 Myspace legions of ROB crowd (though I admit that Harris has got a slammin body) 23) Sherri sucking cock for quarters actually weakened what was a pretty decent take on the whole ailing mother angle. She was one of the few bright spots, you'd almost prefer that she remained a little chaste to give her some dignity. 24) The whole strip club sequence was so poorly cliche and under-imagined that I can't even justify taking up space to print it.

25) Dourif babynapping Laurie 26) Dourif's underutilized role 27) Dourif turning Brackett from an aloof, bumbling hick sheriff into an aloof, misogynistic, apathetic, babynapping, could-care-less about my job hick. 28) What purpose did Dee Wallace Stone serve????? Exactly. 29) Laurie and Annie mock fucking in front of the kids. What the fuck people. I that's the best we could do with a "reimagining" then WWWOOOWWW!!!!! 30) Laurie turned into a complete snide, brat, bitch 31) Laurie turning into a complete blaberring bitch with a gun. 32) She ran away when she had the gun in hand. A group behind me started screaming "Yo bitch, you got the gun" followed by "Can she please shut the fuck up. It's one thing to be the scream queen, but damn. 33) Laurie playing Russian Roulette while straddling an unconscious 7'0 300 lb. serial killer who just ripped down a fucking door. 34) Said 7'0 300 lb. serial killer tackling, YES I SAID TACKLING like LT, a 100 lb 17 year old. 35) Did ROB really think that the deck scene at the end was going to really bring us back to the original????? Come on! 36) Said 7'0 300 lb. psycho serial killer being allowed to induldge the very fetish that caused him to kill in the first place and use that as psychological intimidation of his caretakers in a government mandated sentencing program. NNOO FFUUCCKKIINNGG WWAAYY!!!!! 37) How was Mikey exactly able to smash 2"-thick tungsten-steel chains with his bare hands? Anyone care to explain this one to me or how it is better than the original?? 38) "Happy Halloween Boo" followed by 39) "Trick or Treat Baby" followed by 40) "I'm gonna cut that mask off your fucking face" followed by 41) "In a way Michael, you're like, my best friend, as fucked up as that sounds" followed by 42) "Was that the Boogeyman?" "As a matter of fact I DO BELIEVE THAT indeed that may have actually been....." (and on and on and on it goes) which leads to 43) Everytime that ROB tried to clone or revise a scene from the original he way overworked and jumbled the dialogue, articulation, phrasing, and delivery of the actors lines. Which leads to 44) How fucking bad could the acting have been? The emotional delivery and nuances were bad by fucking Ben Affleck's standards, nevermind those of a third rate horror remake released in August. 45) The last 20 minutes were so fucking boring that I saw at least 25 people exit early while cursing this shit out. 46) As much as I love Kiss, any Michael Myers movie that opens to the strains of "God of Thunder" is destined to be weak as hell. 47) An impaled coyote left as a breadcrumb trail signpost for everyone to see in broad daylight. When the hell did you last see coyotes skulking around the center of town in broad daylight? Coyotes that could be caught by a 7'0 300lb. behemouth who could barely walk and hasn't run in 15 years. 48) The worst performance of McDowell's career. Hands Down. "Working Girl" was fucking Shakespeare compared to this. 49) A fucking wannabe hack director allowed to induldge his hobby, not his career mind you but his hobby, simply because he possesses an iota of MTV face recognition. When you sleep with the dogs, you're gonna catch fleas. That's exactly what everyone here who bought into the belief that an oohh-so-scary, misunderstood emo shock-rocker could instantly make the jump to cinema and then set their hopes and expectations on that absoltely farcical belief. AND FINALLY.....50) The end. What a fucking disappointing way to bring it all home. It was like the handjob from hell that never let you blow your load but you feel steamed because you just spent two hours trying to get it out.....

If you want to talk shit, I've got all day. Tell him Laser.....

By the way.....If you were actually here for the past nine months with the rest of us, you could have seen te validity of my arguements and the intelligent (I think) way in which I attempted to diagnose and present said ideas. However, since you've only just decided to grace us with your presence.....any one of a number of stalwarts from these parts can verify and atest to the manner and professioanlusm in which I have presented my beliefs. Now, however, it's open war. If you are offended by my creative use of adjective and metaphor then please feel free to go back to your old stomping grounds.....

I got 50 more if you want em.....

Even though I do not agree with you Sauron. You do not back down and I respect that...so if you have time. I want 50 more reasons. Lets make it an cool 100! LMFAO!

Johnny, not directed at you.....

I am not by any means trying to start shit. I am just tired of people praising or panning a movie without giving any insights. Other than "it sucks" or "it's fucking amazing". I use to work for this site, so I am here all the time. Granted, I am not a stalker so I haven't read all your posts. However, I am glad you gave me a list of reasons why you thought they sucked. Maybe a little over kill, but it appears I did ask for it. I am all for discussing a movie when someone does layout points for their opinion and would love to continue this conversation. I will be back later.

sauron, you were going to hate the movie no matter what, so stop wasting half your life talking about something you hate. you. fucking. tool.

Oh man.....I tried to warn some of these guys....long night ahead,folks lmao

Laurie and Annie mock fucking in front of the kids. What the fuck people. if that's the best we could do with a "reimagining" then WOW! yup, about sums up the genius of rob z.

As much as I respect a good opinion. In the end it is pointless. I come on here from time to time and just read the comments and think. Why? I mean really? Everyone is entitled to there opinion. It's beating a dead horse because no matter how many good reason someone gives another person will give bad reasons. There is no need to explain because in the end your opinions will fall on deaf ears to the ones that oppose it. I've thrown out a few points here and there but when it gets to the point where I feel like I am repeating myself...I say why bother? Just look above at the previous post and the many, many threads that revolve around this movie and I think what I say makes perfect sense.

One thing I will say about these post is...that they are entertaining as hell and make for one hell of a laugh!

i can't wait to see the movie in theaters. everytime i see the previews i get more anxious

this is the real sheri. please go see this movie, if you don't go and rob gets mad, he will make me stick my fingers in his ass and then put them up to his nose for a whiff (sorry for giving away a deleted scene, but it might be on the extended dvd).

Hey SAURON. I know you were not directing the tirade at me, we've been cool and respectful for quite awhile now. Nice breakdown of the movie. You TOTALLY made your point. Still don't think it was that bad, but hey, agree to disagree, that's what the boards are for. I'm curious by Monday what this thing makes $$$$.

Johnny.....cool. Unfortunately it's going to make its coin and this has been a long that I've long had to concede. Raven, I would love to continue the conversation, and that post was directed at you but not only you. There are a couple of others that cold use a reader with that. Park.....you are ineed correct o know that I hated this from the beginning (ya think) But now I have a whole litany of reasons and am being backed up around the net quite nicely thank you. IT'S THAT BAD FOLKS. RREEAALLYY.....

Sauron, I take it that you were not really crazy about this film? HAHAHAHHAHAHA!

Sauron, you forgot "Driller Killer." That was a classic... HAHAHAHHA!

Wow......lmfao

but really, why waste so much time and space talking about something you hate. go outside

The original focused on Laurie 80% of the time,and this movie focused on Michael 80% of the time,that's why you didn't see Laurie as much as you did in the original. I liked how Zombie focused more on Michael in this version.I hope Zombie reconsiders and makes a Halloween 2 do follow up on this.

This isn't a message board. You fanboys are silly.

I have to be honest. There were parts I liked. However, I didn't like any of the Myers family dialogue, the Sanitarium dialogue, and the Linda, Annie, and Laurie (when together) dialogue, and Linda should've been dead earlier. How annoying was that gal? Some of that dialogue was like Devil's Rejects meets Joe Dirt! Very unrealistic and very unnecessary. I didn't like the jumpy camera work either (however, I knew a lot of the before mentioned would be the way it was prior to me watching this film). Some of the scenes were stupid and made no sense. Why a Coyote on a stick? Though I like it normally, why all the tits and sex? Killing the Strodes was unnecessary. It comes down to this: It was a splatter film, not a good Halloween film. Why did he go overboard showing us splat all the time? That is what Final Destination is for. I wrote before I liked it better than Ressurection. After seeing it again, I liked it better than H6 and Ressurection. I forgot how fatally wounded H6 was and how I hated that one. Anyhow, I did like both the young and adult Myers, some of the kills, some of the mood, and some of the Myers reactions. Oh yea, Sherri Moon Zombie did a good job in a lot of scenes. I figured the ending was rushed because Zombie wanted to get the preface out first and he was probably pressed for time, however, you can't go into a remake thinking everyone knows the characters of the original so that kind of killed part of the movie. For God sake Rob, STOP with the freeze frame stuff. That is just stupid! Also stop with the music only without dialogue crap. Some of it was just plain amature. I have to admit, I liked parts. Halloween no, splatter yes! I would have to say some of the best dialogue was from Tommy Doyle. That kid was actually really good and his part was written well.

Oh I have to amend something from the last post. A lot of dialogue was like Devil's Rejects meets Joe Dirt meets Full Metal Jacket. There has been rumor that the Halloween Workprint is actually better, other than that stupid rape scene. Thank God that was taken out. Now, why the HELL would Zombie put a rape scene in a Halloween movie in the first place??? Besides probably being disturbed himself maybe it is a case of not being able to let go of his first two films... Which in my opinion he should really think about doing.

The story aspect of it would've been decent as a separate film (ie non-Halloween) or a sequel that did quite a lot of forgetting of certain druidic genetic experimentation shit. None of that however changes the fact that this was a poorly made movie. Guys, there are a ton of techinical mistakes that can't be chalked up to ROB Zombie's innovative creative vision for the future direction of horror. As a splatter film this probably would've worked had ROB cleaned up a lot of the childish shit. Sherri Moon and Daeg Fraech were actually pretty good at times. Tyler Mane definately and surprisingly carried the proper menace for this role. aryl Sabarra filled his role quite nicely thank you. The problem is that as a movie, it's way too sloppy and amateurish (geez I wonder why) and specifically as a Halloween movie i was pure garbage. Part 6 had a decent second act and Daniel Farrands made a pretty good attempt to flesh out some character development. Also the Producer's Cut is far better in terms of atmosphere (though the end is equally as bad as the theater version). This movie though falls FAR FAR short of 2, 4, 5, and 7 (though 7 was borderline pitiful as well) IMO it's about as good as six quality wise but the reasons for their failures are drastically different. Make no mistake though they were BOTH failures.....

Yeah,the dead animal stuff was a bit much 4 me, it couldve gone the the other direction,and we would've seen a an everyday little boy go fuc*ing nuts 4 no reason ouy of the blue, that could've worked too.....but people just HAVE to know the WHY WHY WHY about every aspect of just about every movie made-i've often wondered how it woulda been for the original if the net was around in '78.........

OMG.....the "joe dirt" sh*t just hit me......"I'M UR SISTER,I'M UR SISTER" WOW.....LMMFAO

Why do people have such trouble with understanding Rob's idea. Its simple. Myers grew up in a fucked up house, and he becomes psycho. The only thing keeping him tied to the norm is his sister boo, because she is the only thing innocent in the house. The evil takes over, he starts killing and goes completely over the edge. Loomis is the only one tying him to the real world, and when Loomis decides to leave, Michael snaps again. Michael wants to stop killing but he cant ( aka why he didnt remember killing anyone ). AND HE LOOKS FOR BOO SO SHE CAN EITHER HELP HIM OR KILL HIM. Why is that so hard to understand ? He lets her fucking stab him because he wants to die. But it didnt kill him, the evil takes over, mask goes back on and he loses control again. It makes a hell of alot more sense than any of the other films. The problem is that for some reason people cant rap their head around what re-imagine the film means. This isnt supposed to be Halloween as you know it. What Rob did was create something new using the Halloween mythos and changed it. Fucking live with it. There is no problem with this movie, the problem is with fans of the series that dont like his version of the story, not the movie. If you want to review the story, dont call it a movie review, because the movie was awesome. Its was an adrenaline rush, and I loved seeing Michaels PURE RAGE. At the end where he is break through the sealing with the 2x4 almost gave me a boner, it was just the craziest shit and you could tell how much rage was in him. The only thing wrong with the movie was some of editing mistakes, and the fact that their probably wont be a sequel. Get off your fucking "Movie critic / Elite horror fan " attitudes and except that this was a great slasher movie, and quit dwelling on the fact that it used the Halloween story. Because if the movie made Michael a silent, stalking shadow, everyone would have said Rob just copied Carpenters film and you would have bitched anyway.

On the other hand, we are led to believe 2 animals are killed in the original:inside the myers house w/ Brackett and Loomis:outside the Wallace house when Annie "i look and sound like a condor" Brackett is bumpin her gums talking to laurie.....still, killing rats and coyotes was a bit...."dahmer-ish"

Check out Rotten Tomatoes. 3 out of 10. You can take any take you want on this film, but this was supposed to be revision. It really isn't. It is not any more than a Friday the 13th sequel really with a stylized Michael Myers. The way Rob talked, there was supposed to be character development, etc. There really wasn't. It was more of attempt to show creative killings rather than the suspense leading up to them. It is modern, sure, but it is not what it could've been. I think Rob may have not had the talent as a director to make it better. But who knows? I question him a lot now, because the movie was not how he stated it was going to be. He threw loads crap at us and stated it was going to be a suspenseful horror movie. It was not! Like I said before there were things I liked, especially after the first time I saw the film, but after the second time I was having some problems. Overall there were problems with the dialogue, story, and production that really blew it for me and a lot of Halloween fans. These are things I kind of knew were going to happen becuase his prior work. He got the gig and he didn't produce the movie I wished he would've, but anyone can like it or hate it as far as I'm concerned for whatever reasons they want.

Once again... It is NOT his vision of the story, it is the way it is PRESENTED!!!!!! Live with that!

I'm not going to argue, but the orginal Halloween didn't become the classic it is for nothing. Everyone knows there were goofs all over the place but the story kept it in line and it has lived almost 30 years as one of the best horror movies ever made. I don't think Zombie's movie sucks, it just wasn't what I had hoped for.

sauron, my opinion of the movie is different, i was satisfied with it. not something i really liked or loved, but i was satisfied. i agree with a bunch of those 50 points. the pacing of the movie was horrible, none of the scenes developed it just jumped to something new. anyways, thank you for being one of the few to have valid points.

Convicsik, did you see another movie then the masses? I saw the movie and what you just said makes no sense. First of all if you watch thescene of Michael killing the orderly in the hospital, his killing of Lori's mom, and his near killing of Anne they all have one thing in common. He tortured them, and from the way the feel made it look he was ENJOYING IT. The idea of him not wanting to kill is complete bs lol. Also the Loomis character is so poorly developed and played out you really don't know what made Michael snap. Michael had stopped talking to Loomis years ago. So it's not like Loomis leaving mattered to him at all. The movie made absolutely no sense at all. The pacing was awful, the acting was horrid, the dialogue was borderline 5th grade, and the movie wasn't scary. Those that are saying it was good seriously have no taste. This is a very very bad film from start to finish. It has nothing to do with it being inferior to the original. Everyone knew it would be. It's the fact that the movie doesn't delevop it's characters, and Zombie tries to get over that by assuming you all have seen the original so he could be lazy in that area. Even with that aside, it doesn't matter because Lori the heroine of the film is a complete cocktease, and a horrible actress. I really hope they don't make anymore Halloween movies. Just let it rest because if this is the best that can be done to revive this fanchise just let it rest in peace.

Moriarty's review on that much-maligned (at least by 17 year old suburn\banites who think they have figured out the inner machinations of the world) AICN site. His review is dead fucking on especially in terms of the "creative" choices that would've/should've'could've been made. I would disagree that this was the third best entry in the series as he put it. However, his details are spot fucking on with the numerous problems in this abortion.....

Link: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33846

I think maybe now,i'm starting to see where John Carpenter was coming from, he coulda lived with his original standing alone w/ no sequels...i do like H2 dont get me wrong, but lets face it,we spent most the hour and a half of it doped up in a hospital w/ laurie,Capenter and Hill tried to cap it AGAIN with letting Myers look like the world trade center,I agree,the remake was good but could've been better-let the story rest in peace (but i get the feeling something will be coming out of another director's ass along with Akkad and Dimension)

So a lot of people seem to hate the movie. Mmmk. Where's your movie?

Hey horror freaks out there just saw Halloween and have been reading some comments. My fav is Sauron. Dude i totally agree. I had high hopes for the movie. It fucking sucked ASSSSSS!!!! Loomis getting killed. FUCKING SACRILGE! Killing Michael WE TAR TED!!! The movie did start out well. When young Micheal put the mask on and went after his sister was very creepy. I did like the camera vibrating fast. It added violence to the scene. And when he killed for the first time was good. The mask was dead on as well. The nudity was, i concur, was really for every 16yr boy. The last half of the movie boring, stupid ,idiotic ,lame ,mind numbing, wishing i could gouge out my fucking eyes. To many things i just didnt like but Sauron said most of them. THE FACT THAT IT TOOK PLACE WHEN?????? 1970 1980 2007 I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK.. BLACK GUY WITH SIDE BURNS DUDE DRIVING A 70's STYLE VAN EVERYONES CLOTHES 70's style THEN WE SEE CELL PHONES NEW STYLE POLICE CARS. FREAKING DUMB. DIALOGUE LIKE AN AFTER SCHOOL SPECIAL. IT just made me SICK. HELL I WILL SAY IT HALLOWEEN 8 was better then this. My fav is 6 Sauron. I know the ending wasnt great but i thought loomis died during post so they really couldnt shoot anymore stuff. I couldnt stand the laurie character. Scream and run scream and run. Now i fell down in a empty pool oh how can i get out. Not a strong heroine. character development overall SUCKED. Michael and Loomis.... FRIENDS? UHHHH HELLO HE'S A PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the sheriffs daughter living after sex? I mean c'mon on ROB. I did like seeing Danielle again. I also think ROB likes to beat off watching his wife on film. Just a poor movie period. Sorry ROB you should have made Devil's Rejects 2 or something.

really good...i loved it

You know it was sad. The only characters actually developed in this film was Mr. and Mrs. Strode, and they were killed without reason.

OK, maybe the Strodes were killed so Mike could look at pictures... I don't know. BTW Loomis, how the hell could H6 be your favorite? You picked that piece of crap over the 1st? You don't even deserve to post after that. Zombie's version even outedited that one. Wait a minute, Ressurection even out edited H6. Good points on the time line though. WHEN WAS this movie supposed to take place? I have no clue!

I've got 50 more.....IF anyone's interested.....

Only thing I didn't like, was the family being like trailer trash, instead of a normal all American family. Micheal just snapping one day seems more scary to me.

convics...you are just so young, naive, and ignorant all in one. some day you will grow up and learn what taste in movies, and craftmanship/directorial skill is all about. loomis the man, lol some good stuff. all just signs the guy is a hack, never made up his mind about many things.

quit jerking off to yourself sauron

I want the other 50!

Sauron, You are DEAD-ON with your review of this "movie", and I do use that term loosely. I knew I was in trouble from the moment I saw that opening kitchen scene complete with that filthy-as-fuck set design, only to quickly go down shit-hill from there. When your script is as soaked with blood and boobs as this one, you know the director is compensating for, you know, originality, tension, suspense, you fucking name it. Every other scene screamed of torture porn, and another movie you might recall, "I Spit On Your Grave". Yeah, I'm sure I'm not the only who thought that, esp. with Laurie's final fucking-killing-this-bitch-already scene, sitting on top of her bro while gallons of blood stream down her face. Zombie, you might see impressive numbers this weekend, but you're gonna nose-dive after hoodwinked viewers catch on to your scheme and see this hackpiece for what it's really worth and warn the masses. I will say, trailer editors, you really *do* earn your paycheck, sifting through miles of film muck in order to find the few less-shiteous frames, most likely, captured by second unit. Prick!!!

Sauron you must be one of those Freddy fans who hate on Halloween b/c you have been told your life that it began the slasher films and you just can't take that b/c you love Freddy so much lol I thought the film was the 3rd best in the series and was completely incredible when we left the theater all I heard was great praise on the film I have not seen a movie that intense in 5 or 6 years,was it different?of course it fucking was thats why I loved it it was like most on here have said was shot beautifully frame for frame and it looked artistic in a non 1978 original Halloween kinda way I think there will be a sequel to it Danielle Harris did well hell all the girls did Laurie's running scene I loved and hell pretty much all of it i loved great film i'm very happy Sauron your just a whiny bitch and if you were in front of me i would smack you in the mouth with my dick you whiny bitch face it douche good film stop crying and go suck off BD

I have been visiting this site for quite some time and I have never once been tempted to become a member until now. It is early morning and I should be sleeping, but for reasons that need not be known to you, I am not. It was upon reading these negative remarks about this film that I finally felt compelled to write a reply. In particular, it is the long winded remarks of Sauron that have irritated me as no other "online-forum member" has done before. All of us have seen films that we have found to be mediocre, bad, or just plain garbage, but can you tell me that this film is one of the worst you have ever seen? In my 20 years of viewing horror films I have seen plenty worse. This includes original material and remakes alike. Either way, you have to at least respect the man for doing what he wants to do which is bringing his vision to the screen. Making a film of this magnitude is hardly a minor feat. While I too, was somewhat disappointed by this movie, I hardly see it as the abomination that you have made it out to be. Perhaps you should go into film making yourself because I for one, would love to review your work.

Congrats on choosing to open a movie on a holiday weekend and get a record in name recognition only. The truth is the movie was a act of blasphemy against the real Halloween. I followed the creation of this movie for year. I never felt so let down and disappointed. The truth is the crowd laughed throughout the entire film and it got a boo at the end credits. I feel I have lost a year of my life chasing the trumped up, over the top, white trash piece of shit. The only thing worth a damn in the entire movie was the prequel aspect of it which is tolerable when you ignore the hideous attempt to be traumatic and awe inspiring but ended up being so over the top vulgar it was funny. Also in honorable mention the physical stature and performance of Tyler Mane. He was a very believable as Myers but more violent then menacing or scary. John Carpenters Halloween is the real Halloween and I will forget this abomination was ever even attempted to recreate such a masterpiece. I rank Rob Zombies attempt somewhere in the middle of 3,5,6 and 8. Most likely being at the end of the list. The trilogy will always be the true Halloween. That being Halloween 1,2 and H20 with and honorable mention to 4.

I want the other 50 too,Sauron anything to get under the thin skin of the myspace douche nozzles who all the sudden grew a pair of nads b/c they thought the movie "sucked" and wanna be like the other dipsh*ts on their friends list...like i said it was'nt fuc*ing rocket surgery,but it could've been 100% worse....like "The hills have eyes 2" worse or "behind the mask" worse....*shudder*

Cue, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this comment board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. In the end Rob is still rolling around in your money, laughing all the way to the bank.

LOVE HURTS

to some of you smart ass cunts on here who think you are so smug in asking those who hated this movie to make horror movies, or to try and make one so that you can judge "our" work, etc. please go crawl up rob zombie's ass where you truly fucking belong!!! i've said this before and i will say it again. exactly how hard mentally, like, when you are writing a script for the "re-imagining" of HALLOWEEN, is it to place young michael myers in an abusive, trailer trash, profanity laced enviorment. come on assholes....how fucking hard is it??? how many hours are spent coming up with that scenario? how much mental energy does it take? i wish i was a filmaker. i could run circles around some of those out there. and after seeing this crap, i just might become one. i see so much shit out there, my dog could write better. i remember rob zombie saying he didn't want to do this at first, but changed his mind because he thought he could add something to the backstory of young michael. yeah, like what he did in 1,000 corpses and rejects. there is nothing new from what he has already done before. and all you cunts who loved this piece of shit have bent over and taken it for a third time.

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