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BC Compares Different Cut of Zombie's 'Halloween' Remake!
Friday, August 31, 2007


By: MrDisgusting
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Curious as what's different in the theatrical cut and workprint of Rob Zombie's Halloween (review #1, #2)? Then you're in luck! Bloody-Disgusting reporter BC was just bored enough to compile an entire list on his blog, Horror Movie A Day, where he reviews a new horror movie every single day. The movies are two completely different entities, so it'll be interesting to see if we'll ever get a different cut of the remake on DVD. Personally I can't wait to see what's different.



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Moonset
5:30pm, August 31, 2007

Maybe this will keep people from downloading the workprint and taking a chance and out to see the film this weekend. I admit i was tempted at first but way too much is different for me, atleast until I see the final theatrical cut


datapata
5:47pm, August 31, 2007

Well going by what people say on here the movie s**ks so I guess it doesn't matter what version you see. Or? Well I must say that as dissapointed as I may be from reading so much negativity it also makes me wanna see the movie more to form my own opinion. I have a hard time seeing that the movie is THAT bad as some are trying to make out that it is. Some may have gone into it more or less wanting it to be bad and I guess some people just thought it s**ked. People have different opinions and that's how it is. If some people who can't live with the knowledge that some didn't like the movie the tough luck. Life is gonna be hard for you. I forming my own opinion whenever that now may be...


NoOneImportant
6:31pm, August 31, 2007

Scenes In Workprint Not In Theatrical Version: 1. During the breakfast scene, there’s additional dialogue between Judith and Deborah concerning eggs. Judith alludes to Deborah having an abortion. 2. The workprint has an opening credits sequence. It plays over the scene of Michael running from the school, Loomis’ introduction, and the bully walking through the woods. These scenes are all longer as a result, most significantly more dialogue between Loomis and Deborah, presented in voice over as Michael runs. 3. There’s an additional shot when Deborah confronts Michael outside the house after the murders. 4. The montage of Loomis and Michael getting to know each other has more dialogue/scene snippets. 5. In the workprint, there is an additional scene of young Michael with Deborah at the institution, where he expresses his need to “get out of here”. When he learns he cannot leave, he says “Then I have nothing left to say.” 6. When the nurse looks at the photo of Michael and “Boo”, there is an additional line where she alludes to Michael being ugly. This provides more of a motive for her killing than is present in the theatrical version. 7. The “Fifteen Years Later” scene begins with a newscast about Michael’s possible transfer. 8. Following this newscast begins one of the biggest changes: Udo Kier’s character. In the theatrical he is only in ONE scene, but here he has quite a few as the head of Smith’s Grove. He is joined by Clint Howard and Tom Towles as other hospital higherups. They disagree with Loomis’ instructions for Michael’s care. This is followed by the scene where Loomis tells Michael he can no longer be his doctor. 9. The scene of Ishmael Cruz and the new orderly in Michael’s room is a bit longer. 10. An additional shot of Loomis leaving Smith’s Grove, looking back with a look on his face showing that he is clearly conflicted about his decision to quit on Michael. 11. Additional shots of Michael watching Joe Grizzly. 12. The scene where we meet Laurie and the Strodes is lengthened, there is more talk about the “pervert” hardware store owner. 13. After Loomis speaks at the lecture, there is a scene of him walking with a colleague, asking how he thought he did in the speech. 14. When Laurie and Lynda leave the school, Lynda harasses another female student for some reason, pouring a drink on her head (this is one of the few changes that were for the better, as it makes Lynda even more annoying than she already is) 15. Additional sex talk between the three girls as they walk home 16. When they see Michael, there are additional shots of him standing across the street (in the theatrical we only see his blurry shape) 17. A scene of Laurie walking to her house where her mother is putting up decorations outside. Michael is seen following her in the background. 18. A scene showing Michael in the graveyard, finding the tombstone and then removing it. 19. After Laurie leaves to baby-sit, we hear Michael breathing as her parents chat. When the mother goes inside, Michael approaches. The father sees him and assumes he is a trick or treater. 20. A scene showing Laurie watching horror movies with the kids. Laurie tells Lindsay it’s time for her to go. 21. The chase from the Wallace’s to the Doyle’s is a bit longer. 22. The pool scene is a bit longer. 23. A scene of Loomis and Laurie walking to the car. After Laurie gets in, Loomis pauses and you can see he is beginning to blame himself. Scenes In The Theatrical That Are Not In The Workprint: 1. A scene of Loomis explaining the color spectrum to Michael. 2. The death of Ishmael Cruz. 3. A scene of Brackett pulling up alongside the girls as they walk home. Brackett offers a ride, which only Annie accepts. 4. The graveyard scene with Sid Haig. 5. A scene where Lynda calls Laurie right before Bob’s death. 6. A quick bit where the Strodes express confusion over what Annie means by saying her dad is “same as always”. 7. Loomis buys a gun. 8. A shot of Bob backing his van into the driveway at the Myers house. Also, this scene occurs much earlier in the theatrical version than it does in the workprint. 9. A scene where Brackett explains how he knows who Laurie Strode’s real family is (a much needed addition as it is never explained in the workprint how she came to be with that family or how Loomis would know where to find her). 10. Loomis running up to the house and finding the kids is not in the workprint. Scenes That Are Entirely Different: 1. Michael listens to Monster Mash in the first scene instead of classic rock (note – a lot of the music is different, more usages of the original music, but that is to be expected from a workprint – this was the only one I will point out) 2. The biggest one that almost everyone knows about, when Michael escapes. In the workprint, an orderly and his friend harass and then rape a female inmate in Michael’s room. Michael ignores them until they begin playing with his masks (this pays off the line about him not liking it when people touch his things). He kills them both, gets their keys, and escapes. In the theatrical, he is being moved for some reason and suddenly kills the four guards, including Tom Towles (who plays a different character in the workprint), as well as Bill Moseley, and Leslie Easterbrook, neither of whom appear in the workprint). 3. The scene where Loomis is told that Michael escapes is entirely different, and features more Udo Kier. 4. The scene where Loomis leaves for Haddonfield after arguing with Udo Kier and Clint Howard is completely different. 5. The scene where Loomis meets Brackett takes place in a different location (a diner in the theatrical, and what appears to be the graveyard in the workprint), and the dialogue is different. 6. Mrs. Strode is brutally killed; in the workprint it is just sort of suggested. 7. Bob’s death is completely different. In the workprint, he is killed in his van when he goes out to get beer. In the theatrical, he is killed in the exact same way he was killed in the 1978 film. 8. Tommy goes with Lindsay and Laurie back to the Wallace house in the theatrical version, in the workprint he stays in his own home. 9. The ending is completely different from the moment Michael pulls Laurie out of the car. In the workprint, Loomis talks to Michael for a while longer than he does in the theatrical version. Then the cops show up, guns drawn. Loomis convinces them all to stand down while he continues to try to calm Michael. He succeeds, and Michael lets Laurie go. As she runs to Loomis, the cops (including Brackett) open fire, shooting him dozens of times. Loomis screams for them to stop but it’s too late. Michael appears dead. The film ends on a very nice shot of Loomis standing over Michael’s body, clearly realizing how he failed his patient, as we hear the audio recording of their very first meeting at Smith’s Grove. In the theatrical, Michael kills Loomis, then spends about 10 minutes smashing his house trying to find Laurie. He finally does, and then rushes her. They go out the window, then Laurie shoots him, screams, and the film ends.


pissing_lasers
6:38pm, August 31, 2007

gee, thanks fuck-o


Haddonfreak
6:59pm, August 31, 2007

Just saw the movie. I was pleasently surprised. I have every reservation coming into this film, but I have to say Zombie did a decent job. It is better then any sequel. There was some dialogue in the beginning, the sanitarium, and with the girls I didn't like, there were a few rushed scenes without any real character development in the final 3rd of the movie, and some jittery camera work at times, but the film was just plain good. McDowell was very good as Loomis and Sheri Moon did an awesome job as Michael's mom. Good job Rob. Clean up some of that over-the-top crap writing and you will be way on your way!


Haddonfreak
7:07pm, August 31, 2007

Hey PL, you will like it anyhow I think.


pissing_lasers
7:31pm, August 31, 2007

Thanks Haddon,i've yet to see it,but i'm going later tonight...if memeory serves,i remember the original didnt do to hot at 1st,either....


Redhood
8:47pm, August 31, 2007

saw it today, and i can honestly say it was good. i would say it was really good but the last six minutes of the movie kinda bothered me. i was sold on the whole movie up to that point. other than the ending, good job rob.


halloweenfan
9:28pm, August 31, 2007

Yeah I was expecting a better ending but not the worst in the Halloween franchise. Still good film.


halloweenfan
9:42pm, August 31, 2007

Halloween is estimated to earn 28millon this weekend while death sentence is supposed to earn 10 mill.


Droogie13
9:48pm, August 31, 2007

Holy fuck, I need to see the workprint version! Even though I enjoyed Zombie's film immensely, I did have problems with it...but from the sound of it, these missing scenes could solve at least 90% of those problems. More dialogue and characterization (particularly between young Myers and Loomis) would make a world of difference. Intergrating these scenes into a two-hour director's cut for the DVD could very well re-establish the film...even if it has Tom Towles playing two different characters.


lorinjoe93
10:35pm, August 31, 2007

I saw the movie today and I gotta say I am a huge Halloween movie fan and own every version and sequel on dvd and vhs and I am not a fan of House of 1000 corpses or Rob Zombie. I expected the movie to bomb but I was proven sooooo wrong. This movie ruled and was way better than any sequel and maybe better than the original. congrats Rob and please,please,please....make a sequel!!!!


halloweenfan
10:47pm, August 31, 2007

If thier is a sequel I don't think Rob will make it but, who knows.


MichaelMyers1031
11:23pm, August 31, 2007

I just watched the movie again in theaters and i've changed my mind about this it wasn't that bad it was better than i expected sure not as good as the original but better than most sequels they made. But there was a few things that were curous for me like why did they have dr. loomis die why did Annie survive and did Michael die or not. but overall i will give it 7 out of 10 skulls and the last 20 minuites were awesome my oppinion decent movie worth a watch.


pissing_lasers
12:04am, September 1, 2007

I saw it, and i thought it was very well done,and different...course its not perfect,but neither was the original.......


pissing_lasers
12:08am, September 1, 2007

Btw, i saw loomis with his eyes closed,so he could be knocked out i suppose....they could leave it all alone and it would be great,a sequel could work also,for not having seen any of the originals,Malcom did an awesome job,added a different twist to Loomis....he cant be dead can he?


pissing_lasers
12:10am, September 1, 2007

In all,i was pleased AND scored the action figure-right on


pissing_lasers
12:31am, September 1, 2007

Btw,Sherry moons voice may be like nails on a chalkboard to me,but she's hot in a thong.....Danielle harris is hot and did a good job,and only a chick like Lynda acted would wanna get drilled in the Myers house,shes hot and funny,but a tad on the twisted side


sethdlh
1:11am, September 1, 2007

i enjoyed it. i have alot of both positives and negatives, but as a whole and a supporter from the start, i am satisfied. i want to see the dvd get everything added back in, at least in some way.


The_Bark
1:29am, September 1, 2007

This movie sucked so bad... It's nice to have finally paid my 7.50 and be able to say that, too. It was so down-right God-awful, I was embarrassed to be in the theater 10 minutes into the film. To those who actually enjoyed it, I'm glad you feel as though you got your money's worth. Me, my money's worth will be forever trashing how bad this movie was. It was BAD. REAL BAD.


sauronthepowerful
1:50am, September 1, 2007

PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! What FUCKING movie were you watching? I have been silent with the cursing out of deference and respect.....but no more. The wrath of Sauron is great and it will flow forth unchecked. 18,000 words will not suffice to cover the shitstorm that is about to emanate from these very walls.....The fucking dialogue was atrocious. I was expecting bad (could you tell) but the result was fucking absolutely absurd. McDowell absolutely butcherred, and I mean butcherred like Rosie O'Donnell trying to suck dick, every one of Pleasence's lines. Guys, every time he tried to embellish a Loomisism, it came out stilted and comical. Loomis with a book called "the devil's eyes." You gotta be fucking kidding me. An impaled coyote leaving McDowell a breadcrumb trail AAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!! Myers crying like a jilted pussy to a fucking Nazareth song after getting his ass beat WWHHAATT TTHHEE FFFUUUCCCKKK!!!!! They made Myers a wet, pasty, bloody fucking sweaty cunt after 7 rounds with Ron Jeremy. addon and Laser, guys, you can't be fucking serious. This movie was a mess from start to finish. People were walking out of the theater right and left and cursing at the screen. Malcolm McDowell could not have been worse than this. Everyone mugged Kaysar about this but he was right. I love McDowell but he was pitifully bad. His whole lazy-ass, hippie, slacker school psychologist bit was as fucking awful as it gets in cinema. This movie was fucking absolutely pathetic. The only two redeeming factors about this were the one's everyone was worried about. A) Sherri Moon was actually decent as the traumatized mother and B) Tyler Mane carried at least the proper menace over Brad Loree and Chris Durand. Watching Juni, I mean aryl Sbara get his shit wrecked definately was a fucking trip. However, every possible amateur mistake that ROB could have made, he did. Te continuity, editting and ESPECIALLY the dialogue were spot on fucking terrible. The attemps to clone scenes and/or dialogue from the original fell completely, and in some cases comically, flat. People were out and out mocking some of the shit these actors were saying. I can see where some of the lesser experienced staff may not have much input, but McDowell should have ad a self-censorring button that said "hey, some of this tripe is weak as hell." So much anger and so much to talk about, but WOW.....I am more relieved than annoyed because this piece of shit sucked as hard as it could. IT'S THAT BAD FOLKS.....


sauronthepowerful
1:53am, September 1, 2007

IT'S RREEAALLYY THAT BAD.....


sauronthepowerful
2:04am, September 1, 2007

Wait there's more. Douriff/Brackett babynapping Laurie and then having her get taken in by his friend? Laurie playing Russian Roulette straddling an unconscious Mikey?? Scout fucking attempting to qualify for the freestyle 400 in the backyard pool??? Young Mikey running like an ornery bitch down the allway after getting yelled at by mommy???? (Are you fucking kidding me, people were hollaring at this shot and I really don't think General Cummings meant for it to come off that way). Myers walking miles in the civilized world in his pajama/prison gear????? Walking unseen and unchecked?????? A fucking 7'0 behemouth psychologically inspiring fear in his caretakers thru his excessive crayola making/wearing priviledges???????? There is ssssoooo much wrong with this that I'm going to have to divide it up between movie nonsense and ROB's absolute piss-poor performance on this one. Every rookie mistake and trap that he could have fallen into, he did. The shaky cam was far beyond stupid. Rob.....in case you were wonderring.....you are not Paul Greengass. Obviously I have been prejudiced from the beginning on this one, but the result far exceeded my expectations and folks I AM FUCKING GIDDY right now. I mean really fucking giddy. This shitstorm backalley botched abortion could not have been any worse if Fred Olin Ray swallowed Ed Wood's creative juices and shit out Sandra Bernhard as an end result. I'TS RREEAALLYY THAT FUCKING BAD FOLKS.....


KayStar
3:21am, September 1, 2007

Thank god someone here has brains, sauronthepowerful. I haven't seen the movie cause I will not give any money to such a horrible movie. But from what I heard its pretty horrible. Worse than I expected. Everyone who says it is good just sounds like their lying through their teeth. I knew it was going to be a disaster from day one. Rob Zombie needs to realize he isn't that good of a director and even a worse writer. Its more of a comedy than anything else.


severed hand
5:11am, September 1, 2007

I will not get into MY review of the movie, BUT, I will say this.......I have no idea what "Theater from hell" you viewed this at Sauron, but it had to be at one that contained only people like you that hated this thing before it even started. There is almost nothing I can agree on with your "review". NOTHING. You are blowing it so out of proportion, that I actually have to shake my head at your comments. You're more than entitled to your opinions, but you're way off. I heard nothing but praise from the theater I walked out of tonight. Let's see how long it takes before I'm called a liar.


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