I think this one is really cool, but I saw a TV clip last night that had little Mikey going after a nurse with a fork, not to mention some other things. I would like to see that one also!

awesomeness. can't believe it comes out this month! can't wait!

That was really good. I can't decide if I like the first trailer better, but this looked intense. Great to see some new footage as well. 30 days to go.

HOLY SHIT. AWESOME.

Very cool, can't wait to see the movie.

I have my 8.50 saved back for this.

im glad someone realized how much the other trailers for this sucked, and had someone else step up to the plate. this actually looks like its worth seeing. now, if only they would admit this is a str8 up remake instead of a "re-envisionment" which is a load of crap.

Yes......its gonna be awesome. Period.

Uh.....Yeah.....Let's see. First off, someone needs to tell ROB or his scriptwriter that the proper conjugation of that news clip should read as follows: "WERE described by police," not "was described by police." (the crimes were referred to in the plural pejorative, not the singular so let's get that out of the way right now) Common-sensical English and a little Grammar 101 would go a long way here people. Usually you read the line back to yourself to make sure that it sounds correct so here we go with the 4th grade mentality behind this project. Now, not to seem like I'm straining to pick on ROB or slam this thing, but let's take a look at the overall scenario. I mean, do you people REALLY believe that a hardened murderer sentenced to rehabilitative custody under the juristiction of the state would be allowed to walk around in a series of ooohhsssoooo scary and faux-emo masks to hide his face for the purposes of audience psychological fear. Hello, he's a prisoner with no rights or recourse (unless of course if you're one of ROB's middle school fan base, in which case I guess this could be plausible). There is no way under the yellow sun that a 7 foot behemouth is gonna call the shots about his wardrobe or given the right to psychologically intimidate staff as such. So guess what.....as I've enumerated numerous times before, it's all lookin like it's gonna be one large, steamy piece of crap. I mean "Manson-esque in demeanor" let's throw out some more cheap pop dialogue to get the Mr. Scary emotions rolling. You've all been taken in by this farce and now everyone is salivating because we're getting a few extra seconds of third rate horror titilation via the trailerpark.....Pavlov would indeed be proud!!!!!!!

The only good things about that trailer all come along with the terrotory of it being a Halloween movie and nothing to do with Zombie. I liked the style at the start, and visually it looks ok. Too many Tarentino like actors in it, not one single person who ever was in a Zombie should of been in this film, period. Myeres wearing differnt mask, how lame. Myers being 20 feet tall even lamer, this movie is going to be a waste, Too bad that it has to be successful for a new one to come out, but if it's successful were going to get a sequel to this new Halloween movie and not the old ones like we want, notice how tey acknoledge in the trailer that this is "his" take on the story, it's not because all the back lash he has gotten from people who know a thing or two about Myeres but because unlike all the other remakes of horror franchises, this is of one from a series that was still going strong and it's latest sequel was at the boxoffice 5 years ago. Not exactly material to use if you want to pretend you originated this story, not to mention Halloween is a classic movie/series everyone knows and watches. Zombie spits in the fans faces everytime he says go watch the old movies if you don't like my ideas, you dont know what Im doing and blah blah blah, he just doesn't care about the fans of the series.

raise your hand if you're NOT a tool..no, sauronthepowerful, put your hand down. you are a tool.

There are flaws of plenty in the original movie. He's locked up when he's a kid but some how learns to drive.He just so happens to kill someone where Loomis uses the phone, he's walking around in daylight, wearing a mask that was just stolen from a hardware store, he's shot 6 times and falls to the ground and gets back up...etc but the movie was still great! That's the whole point. It's just a movie. Nothing more. If you sit there and pick away at it. Then it's going to suck for you! As the matter in fact you can find flaws in any movie that you watch. Does that make it bad? Plus Michael is not in a jail. He's in a mental hospital. With the loons. Other then that one night as a kid he has not flew off the handle until 17 years later. So it's not too hard to believe that they would give him Elmer's glue and paper? My God! Name one Newspaper in the world that does not have grammar mistakes. Name a perfect movie! Christ Almighty! While you're at make sure all the cars in the movie are the right year! It's a fucking movie not Edgar Allen Poe!

It's awesome to see the Michael Myers character back and bader than ever.

Guess who's back. I hope that I have my grammer right. Anyway, I've been laying low and simply reading all of the blogs, but feel a need to chime in. Firstly, how are you Sauron and Jonny? I missed you guys. Secondly, I must agree with tymishu78. Please don't pick at the little things. At this point why not just wait the thirty days and then write in. Trailers are not indicative of what a movie will be. Hell, every funny line in the the "Ricky Bobby" movie were in the trailer. The rest of the movie sucked. These Zombie trailers actually look great. Sauron, you know that at first I was with you, but will now take the wait and see approach. I'll be here on Sept. 1 to tell you it stinks if it indeed stinks. Scouts honor. Just give it watch and maybe we can all come back and say that Sauron was right. I hope you will do the same if it isn't all that bad? Think about it.

even if an amazing trailer comes out for this movie, sauronthepowerful still finds different ways to bitch and moan about this movie and how much it sucks for no ligitimate reason. raise your hands if you think Sauron needs to change his tampon!

Hello P.W. Welcome back and well said. I have to admit I'm liking the trailer. But I will indeed call a turd, a turd if it is. That said, I would urge all Hater's to please see the movie as well so when you comment on it, you can back it up. Yes, I mean you SAURON, and welcome back as well. September 1st is gonna be a throw down.

Hey Sauron way to bring up fresh valid arguments against the flick. A newspaper headline that's not gramatically correct, thats pretty weak. Besides you know you'll be there opening night. jasonlives...no one wants to see a dumbass sequel to the original series, I'll be alrite if I don't find out what happened to Busta. Many of those sequels were weak anyway and myers looked like shit in all of them except for 2 and 6. At least here they got the look right. This movie isn't gonna ruin the original if anything it will only encourage some of those who haven't seen the original yet, to go out and rent it and give it a shot. I'm almost positive that this movie will not top Carpenter's original, but what I'm lookin for is a nice mix of new age, violent horror with the originals style of suspense.

I wont give you a dissertation on the trailer. I like it and will go see the movie. Glad that the original theme did not come on until the very end. Love love love the original and I am sure I will enjoy this one.

Rottentomatoes.com tomato rating prediction: 42% fresh. Sorry, but I have to agree with Sauron. The thing I'm really scratching my head over is in the original script, Michael was referred to as "The Shape". There's more footage of him in this particular trailer than there was in the original version. I think it's a bad move to make this "Michael's" movie--giving him a backstory to explain/rationalize/justify his behavior is going to be a very tough sell, because in essence, it's an attempt to make him a sympathetic character the audience can identify with--perhaps that's Zombie's intention all along.

Not that I should have to justify myself to someone named after a washed up aor group of dinosaurs sadly clinging to life via the local white-trash airwaves masking as 'classic rock' but here goes anyway.....Original, unoriginal, phony, fake, nitpicky, bitchy, arrogant, what have you; My arguements are made to show that not everyone is willing to let a third rate uncredentialed hack have a free-ride of unabashed a$s-kissing and fealty from anyone desperate to be included in the latest celebrity fad. My arguements are unoriginal you say? Well, I can pretty much verify that my brain indeed works and can think for itself instead of blindly salivating over such divinely inspired, unoriginal dialogue as "mansonesque....." ROB has made it clear that this is his vision and if you don't like it go watch another movie. Fine.....but don't get snippy when those who question your ability or credibility wonder why characters, places, events, and story that are established as the pinnacle of the horror genre need to be "reimagined" or copied as a desperate last-ditch attempt to reinject life into a long-dead franchise. Let's be honest, Malek Akkad figures that this is make or break for the franchise and he's riding the back of the original to generate some much needed dollar signs. Judging by the infantile content of some of the members of this board he apparently has a bunch of Pavlovian rejects willing to support him in that matter, all the while riding the good name of Halloween into the sewer. Make no mistake about it, if this movie tanks, the franchise is finished. And whether you're named after a hopelessly washed up group of long dead dinosaur rockers or a thoroughly unfunny cartoon that lost it's social relevance about 8 years ago, my words ring true and the content of my arguements cannot be disqualified simply because you are desperate to be included in all things ROB.

I understand no one wants to see a squel to the series, but even more people don't want to see a remake. They should of settled with a movie that isn't a remake but can be taken as one and also one that could be a sequel, and if it had to be a remake Zombie is only doing this so they could use name appeal, not like Zombie has it but the fact that Zombie is involved in it causes a bit of commotion in the movie business, they should of gotten someone who had a better grasp of what a Halloween movie is, not someone who wanted to take a movie he thought was amazing and improve on what he thought lacked and then added shit he wanted to see. If Akkad was still alive this wouldn't be happening, sorry but I don't think that it's a coincidence that Halloween 9 was in lingo for so long then he dies tragically and bam his son gets it going.

On another note.....Welcome back P.W. it's been a long while. Also, Johnny there's been a silence in our interractions of late. I hope you are not defecting from the dark side my friend.....

Oh, and by the way giantcutter, that's the second time you've tried to use that rather comical bit of imagery as sh%t-talk and it hasn't worked for you. Just in case you didn't get it the first time during summer school and needed it explained. Since you and our dear Mr. Cummings seem to be completely devoid of any original ability to think, why don't you give us a CONCRETE reason to believe that this movie is going to be good (other than it's directed by ROB Zombie). Myspace fan reaction doesn't count. Is that within the reaches of your rather infantile intellect?

Who fucking cares!!! It's a movie, your opinions mean shit to no one! People will see the movie or they wont. People will like it or hate it. It's a movie!!! If people have a problem with, Rob, or the movie looking like it's a total remake of the original. Whats the point in complaining? Theres nothing you can do about it.

If u look closely at this trailer, i could be wrong, but i think i saw laury going over the balcony with mike..just somethin to shoot out there..

For all the lapdogs out there, remember this is just a TRAILER, don't get too excited. Sometime's the trailer is the entire movie. For all the others, remember it is FICTION, so don't get too excited. I read all Zombie's reasons why Micheal is 20 feet tall and this is this way and that is that way... With all that said, no one has the right to crap on the original! It better be good! BTW, Tymishu... You forgot about the part where Michael was wearing the mask in the a.m. but the alarm was still going off after school when Annie and Laurie were at the hardware store. HAHAHA!!! All I know is I have not seen a Zombie movie that DIDN'T SUCK! At least I like the Executive Producers on this film (the Weinstein's), but all I want is what everyone else wants, is for this movie to be good! We won't really know until we see it, will we? Also, we already have one classic Halloween, do we need another one, or do we just want another one? I just want a good film that does not take a dump on the original! This trailer was good, but remember a trailer is designed to get people interested in the movie. The movie itself is a whole other animal. Cheers!

Wow, I never disqualified your opinion. I just want to hear some new matierial other then calling everyone on here Rob Zombie fans and calling the movie emo. As has been clarified on here many times, many of these people aren't even Rob Zombie fans, sure their may be a few fans, but most are indifferent, including me. But why be so pessimistic? You won't even be able to accurately judge the movie because you will go in with such a negative view on the film. If the movie is subpar then I'll surely admit it, but if its good then you better be on here giving it some form of credit. Lastly, I've said many times, that some of the story elements Rob has come up with are definitely questionable, I just prefer to remain optimistic. We're not lambs being blindly led to a slaughter or whatever horseshit you came up with, but your a total tool if you think this will do anything to actually hurt the original film. It's okay to not like the movie, but not until you've actually seen it...Let's hear some of your favorite bands. Probably something gay like Fallout Boy or something.

Mr. D needs to clean these fucking comments up seriously.

I still think Loomis is gonna kick ass,this franchise NEEDS the movie to do the same or its just done forever,i'm losing patience waiting till the 31st. Meanwhile,ppl are still calling each other "a total tool"....

I see the big guns are out and passing their two cents on this little gem of a trailer already, i always seem to be too late to get into the discussion these days! Sauron/Johnny - good day to you both. Now, I'll just leave a small fleeting comment as time isn't friendly to me these days. On first look of the trailer, i can safely say i appreciated the homages to the original movie, And i quite enjoyed watching a Young Michael Stalk Judith down the hallway with his over sized mask on. That said, I'm keeping zipped up on what the full movie may hold. I'd love to sit here and bombard you with over exaggerated hopes and endless optimism, keeping all my fingers and toes crossed that this film will deliver, but, i just refuse to do that until I've seen it. I'm still trying to keep an open mind, knowing the possibility that this could be a complete failure, but when i cast my mind back to Halloween 5 - i think, At least Zombies movie really can't be worse than that......and that was 'officially' part of the series franchise that the fans so love. I think there's a strong emphasis on brutality in this remake, Myers is now almost animal like in his attacks, something that I'm actually liking, but as someone mentioned, Myers needs to remain in the shadows, to keep the whole 'Shape' Mythos which i can't see happening very much here. Oh look, typical, i start voicing my thoughts and now have to rush off, sorry guys, guess I'll catch up with this later.....

Damnnnnn ... i´m from Brazil, this means ... gonna wait forever to see this shit!!! I hate this :/

yes, it does seem like michael is in a lot of the scenes for this movie. that may be detrimental to it being scary. i won't know until i see it. i am a fan of ron zombie. sure, not everything he tries to do comes off great. but i like him anyway. am i thrilled that he has made this movie? YES! does that automatically guarantee that it will be good? HELL NO!

I'm just going to watch this film and hope it is good. A lot of talk around here is about Michael not being in the shadows and there are a ton of scenes with him. I have to remind you that is the way Zombie wants it. It is not about Linda, Annie, and Laurie any longer. It is about Michael. There is no longer a "Shape". It is all Michael. RZ has stated that from day one. The element of surprise is over. That is one of the things that worry a lot of us.

Amazing how some people will complain about the dumbest shit ever. "He's to tall"...or how they say "manson esc" get the fuck over it your whinny little ass wipes, you will bitch about everything. Get lives.

Yea maybe they should get over it, Myers size is the same thing as casting Freddy with someone not named Robert England. If you don't understand that, then don't bother insulting anyone because your only making a fool out of your self.

Myer's size and Daeg Fraech's poutiness are pretty insignificant to the larger problems of this type of project. Regardless of WHO is directing this, the idea of needing to reimagine or offer a "fresh" perspective on a perfectly crafted piece of cinema such as Halloween lays bear the heart of the insult. I will keep this post generally ROB-Free so as to concentrate solely on why this is a colossioully bad idea that doesn't appear to be getting better with each piece of footage that's released. Every single person who has put forth that this movie will not affect the original is absolutely missing the point. THIS MOVIE is using the same story, characters, places, music, locations and PRE-ESTABLISHED namesake of Halloween to garner a few cheap, and yes emo, shocks all the while riding Carpenter's ideas right into the proverbial sh%tter.....NOT ONE PERSON on these boards can seriously attempt to argue that if the movie sucks that we'll still have the original and that it will stand by itself untouched. The insult will forever be there that a certain someone felt that he had a better perspective than the original creator/master of this franchise and felt the need to ram it down our throats as the latest "bold new direction in horror." You need to be honest and admit that there has been a certain amount of pretentiousness coming from the director's camp about boldly 'reimagining' the course of this series. I could take that a little more seriously if this certain director actually had a credible filmaking resume. And yes, the previous poster was indeed correct that this particular director has yet to produce a product that doesn't suck. So then why the faith and the hoopla? I mean using your arguements we could surmise that you felt that H5, 6, 7, et al were good products simply because it was new product. The only possible answer is that there are those who genuinely hope that this reboots the franchise out of loyalty to the Myers brand. But there are also others who apparently feel that this particular director automatically instills the Midas touch simply because he has a certain amount of pre-established 'celebrity' quality. Simply because ROB is famous does NOT mean that this movie is going to be good. When you guys can at least admit that, then I'll take some of your arguements more seriously. Until then it's adolescent fanboy lust for you.....BTW to the guy who asked, I think you'd be a little surprised to learn that my musical tastes are pretty similar to yours. So if you can find a problem with Rush and co. I'd welcome you to it. Calling me a fallout boy fan may have been the most well-crafted piece of trash talk that anyone has been able to throw my way thus far.....

ah Sauron sauron sauron.. you just dont get it. your reasons dont make sense. i have no need to post why this movie is going to be good because everyone else basically has the same opinion on the film as me, and they all have the same opinion on you as me. you just need a bigger maxi-pad. you really bleed too much. why dont you give us a reason why this movie is going to suck (other than it being directed by rob zombie) and by the way you completely suck at trying to affend people by taking their names on the websites and childishly changing them, and it wasnt even funny. your lame dude. go cry to your mom instead of making every person on b-d listen to it.

Since EVERYONE apparently has the same opinions as you, then you won't mind if I put up some actual concrete, factual evidence to the contrary. Here's a little link that'll pretty much put your theories on blind fanboy lust to bed. Even if you can't bear to read it and admit that I'm right, it's here for everyone else. THE LINK: http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/33454#comment_16 36026 (you need to skip down to the fan feedback section to get the full effect) So I think your childish attempts to defend all things ROB and be included in that special myspace ROB's Friends club are comical, at best. And, for the record that's the third time you've tried to get some mileage out of that joke and ended up looking pathetically immature and unfunny.

I especially liked the MULTIPLE user comments that state "An assclown, which practices assclownery at an exponential level , when compared to a regular assclown. This is an assclown whose own stupidity can actually change the Earth's gravitational pull." Another of my favorites was "It seems like with every question Quint can't even finish a sentence before that vaginal douche cuts him off with his answer. Fucking narcissistic prick."

One final one just to send the point home....."I stopped reading after the tw%t said that there was no reason why psychos are psychos. If that is the case then why give him a backstory? cunt." Kind of puts a dent in your theory that everyone views the movie the same as you. Keep reading the above link Tex, there's lots more creativity in the world that you apparently need to brush up on.....

Wow...The party never ends, now there are DEGREES of assclowns...anyhoo,if you look very closely at the trailer,you'll notice that in every exterior shot the tress are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.Way too many leaves on them bastards!!!!! Ha! Ha!!!Seriously,this movie just may be good.....

i think sauron has the right to say whatever he wants and i am glad he is here to remind everyone NOT to get all apeshit over this movie just because rob zombie is directing it. all i ever here from people i know who are waiting to see this movie or are interested in seeing it is "I HOPE IT DOESN'T SUCK!". and these are people who are not half the horror fans that come on this site. so, the feeling is already out there. don't get me wrong, I LOVE rob zombie and just about everything he stands for. but guess what my friends....I HAVE LOVED THIS FRANCHISE, THIS MOVIE, AND ALL (OR MOST) OF THE SEQUELS MUCH LONGER. so no, i will not sit here and just pretend that i will love it. i'm sorry, but he better not fuck it up is what mostly is going through my brain. although saurons words are much stronger than mine, i do believe that he has a point that some people will eat anything rob zombie does, without question, and his point of view, his playing devils advocate, or simply stirring shit, is needed. why? oh, my sweet, sweet, sweet, young jedi.....just look at our current president and all the trolls that blindly follow him. that is why.

I would like to take this time to interject if I may. Sauron is right. As a true Halloween fan who is passionate about the original, he is absolutely right. He goes about it in his statements pretty rough, but he has some very valid points. There are others who have good points that are on the other side also. I guess it just depends on how you are looking at this product. I don't think Zombie has made a movie yet that is even half-way good. If he puts his previous stuff behind him and changes his focus and his film style, I would venture to say that this could be pretty good. If not and he writes and films this like his other two films, it is going to suck. To be fair, I think John Carpenter was hit and miss a lot in his career, so there is hope. Zombie had it easy though. He had a classic to work from. That in itself worries a lot of fans. It is like Dracula. You have the Bela version which is basically classic, and then you get these copies that are so far off, the characters names were correct, but their sequence in the movie who they represented was wrong. How can you revision a classic? You can, but you can't. HTe question is will it work? That is where the problems lie with people on this board. People have their own opinions on both side and they all are right. It is just according to who is reading. I'm a true Halloween fan. I watched the first through 8 at the theatre. I liked only 3 of them. If I like this, it will be 4. If not, it will remain 3 and I will be dissapointed once again in a series that is all about the money and not about product. RZ said that would not happen. Will he come to bat, or will the joke be on us? If so, they can take their series and stick it up thier ass. We are tired of crap! In my mind, body, and soul there will only be one HALLOWEEN! That was made in 1978, however, I will not trash this one until I see it and it, indeed, sucks. As a true Halloween fan, I hope not. We've gone through that enough haven't we?

LOL! This shit is crazy. Fans claiming to be better fans, people claiming they are right when it's just an opinion. I've been watching horror since I was a kid. I do not care what other people think! LMAO! This whole debate is useless to a certain extant. Why? Because for every person that says it's going to suck, you're going to find a person who disagrees. Some of the people above sound like film critics! I don't know about you but when I see something that strikes my interest....I'm going to see it regardless of what anyone says. If what I see sucks? Then that's something I have to live with...no one else. If it's great? Well then good for me! LOL! I see people argue that certain things suck when I think they are brilliant! Vice Versa. It does not matter. In the end you have to do what's right for you. That's all that matters. What's really disturbing is that I could understand a lot of what's being said if the movie was out already. Then it's open for debate. For example: When they remade TCM I wasn't for it at all at first. Then when I seen the trailers, I was like...I'll give it a chance. I waited till it came out and when I seen it? I thought it was garbage and I found a lot of people that disagreed with me. What could I do? It's there right to like it. My right to hate. Like Haddonfreak said...everyone is right in there own way. You can't tell someone that it's a fact because it's not! It's just an opinion.

Well, I do agree that RZ comes off as a total dick at times and I've tried to remain firm that I don't THINK the movie is gonna be GOOD, its more of a glimmering hope for a dying series. The opinions that have been formulated thus far aren't right or wrong, but incorrectly formed. In my opinion its inappropriate to formulate an opinion based on such a small random sample. This is reminiscient of when the TCM remake came in '03, I (and many)was strongly against that flick, but when I saw it I realized that its so different to the point that I've been able to embrace both versions (even though the orig. is my fav of the two). I feel like if this movie does indeed suck, that in 5 or 10 years it'll simply fade to black and people will mostly forget about it...Also, I think many people will agree (including RZ himself) that there was a drastic improvement in directing and character formation from House of 1000 to Devils Rejects, so hopefully that becomes even more evident in Halloween. I think the difference here is that while many of us hope that this movie is gonna suceed, however Sauron and co. sound as if they want the movie to fail...Oh and Sauron, Rush kicks ass.

Ok.....70s bands aside,I hope this movie is good AND i hope its a success,theres always gonna be some negative douche nozzle who thinks its gonna suck regardless and will ceaselessly nit pick at great length till f**cking Judgement Day,it(should)be all squashed until Aug 31st,but everyone knows that would just be too darned easy.

Next up....a 100 paragraph post by Sauron....(kidding)....(sorta)

WOW !!! SAURON, your on fire. I have not heard you blast like that since our verbal feud some time ago. No offense, but I get the feeling you will hate this no matter what. That's ok, as I've said, you got real passion. I would strongly urge you to see it for yourself so you can answer all the questions and issues you have with this. If it indeed is a good recreation and an entertaining horror film, I hope you can say, "you know, I was wrong about this, it was actually good". I am anxious to see it, but as I've said, if it suck's, I got no problem or RZ devotion holding me back to state it. I happen to be,(as SAURON would know), one of those who feels it wont do jack to the originals reputation. I just see it differently and don't take it that personal. All the shitty sequels did not hurt the original did they ? So why would this ? Keep the pot stirring SAURON. Your making the Dark Side very enticing.

And so, the Empire strikes back.......

The only thing i'm hoping out of the movie (and if someone already knows the answer and could tell me that would be great) Is that they explain what happens to Michael's mom and how she went about giving up Laurie for addoption, why she isn't in his life anymore, etc. Because they don't really explain that in the original. That's all i'm hoping for. Otherwise i think the movie looks awesome.

wow, you posted three times in a row right after me? and still no one agrees with you. and where have i ever once claimed to be a loyal rob zombie bitch? im not. do i like his directing skills? yes. do i like his vision for this movie? yes. you are just so lame and useless sauron.. ill get back to you after i read the link you posted.

ok sauron just read it and i still have no fucking clue what your talking about? everyone should know by now that aicn.com is nothing but a bunch of people who hate rob and bash halloween because of it. and the dude Quints script review wasnt even the right script! plus the link you sent is the forum for the interview between Rob and AICN. i dont know what you were trying to prove by posting that but it obviously doesnt work.

It's quite a shame that these arguments have to get so out of hand like this. I've never posted on here, but frequently read what is being brought to the "table" so to speak. There have been many valid points, and many pointless one's. I agree with things said from both sides though. Mr. Zombie should not be looked upon as a God here, and some seem to, but, I think he should also be given a chance, just like any other director. I see so many comments trashing this man, and I guess it's because quite simply, he's re-doing Carpenter's Halloween. I think it's great for people to be concerned, it shows your love for this movie, but, doesn't it make more sense to wait until actually seeing it, before judgement is passed? As far as I've heard, the movie is complete, so it's not like it can be stopped, the next phase would be to watch it, then make your decision on it. I also think some here should maybe stop with all the "perfectly crafted piece of cinema that Halloween was". It's my favorite movie to say the least, but to say it's perfect? That's actually laughable. The only reason anyone chooses to call it perfect, is because that's how it is seen in your own mind, you choose not to see it's many flaws........and there are many. It was groundbreaking for it's time, THAT'S what makes it so special. It isn't mistake free however, there are many, but they are always forgiven, why, because many choose to still kiss Carpenter's royal behind, eventhough his career has been 50/50. How some feel about Carpenter, is almost as ridiculous as how some feel about Zombie, so in the end, these arguments are all quite silly.

Wow.....Obviously remedial reading is SORELY needed in your life, my friend. I can recommend "Hooked on Phonics" or "Open Court" as a couple of tried and true remedies as to what apparently ails you. First, I PLAINLY and EXPLICITLY stated that you needed to SCROLL (you know that thing the little wheel on your mouse is supposed to perform), that is SCROLL DOWN to the FAN TALKBACK SECTION to get the full-on effect. Secondly, you're lying because you then state that after supposedly NOT being able to find the user comments that AICN is simply a bunch of ROB-hating sychophants. What that tells anyone who has the functional use of more than 3% of their cerebral cortex is that you are pissed that SO MUCH HATE was directed at ROB and now you seek to childishly deflect blame to AICN as a ROB-hating bunker. ROB Zombie is but a festerring drop of literary urine in the ocean that is AICN. If you REALLY think that AICN's sole purpose is to bash Hillbillyween and has nothing to do with other movies then you are obviously under the sway of some seriously powerful mind-alterring narcotics. ROB Zombie and the ROB's friends club are just a temporary blip on the radar of summer cinema. So get it right, and try to stick to the facts. Lastly junior, judging by the amount of posts and posters who frequent these parts, you can find ample evidance (again, assuming you can read) that there are plenty of folks who understand my point of view and can back themselves up far better and maturely than your rather limited intellect as shown tus far.

And, just for the record.....that was a directed response at Mr. Slasher and NOT Mr. hand, so we don't get any festerring anger where there needs to be none.....

It would be interesting to see what Carpenter will say about the remake, refake, revision, reincision... What is this called again?? Hell, I don't know, but there is going to be a ton of talk once it is released. I can't wait to get involved in that!

As far as that quint guy from aicn goes that guy is a little douche bag that talks shit and then tries to hide his ass. He talked a bunch of crap on Rob's script and little did he know he had the wrong one. That script was like the first draft. While making a movie many things change in the script. So don't go believing what that guy is saying. People are gonna complain about this movie no matter what. NOT REFERING TO ANYONE! Nobody is ever gonna stop that but I think If people are just gonna see this movie because Rob Zombie made it then they hardly have a say so. NOT REFERING TO ANYONE! I am going to see it because I love the original, part 2 and the rest are either sucky or ok. When I first heard they were remaking Halloween I was thinking why remake a classic but then I started thinking about Halloween Resurrection. I mean would you rather face the remake in hope that it will be good and spawn its own trilogy or Have Michael chase Busta Rhymes around for a couple sequels? I think some of us will be suprised at the outcome of this movie. No matter what movie your making somebody isn't gonna like it. People have different tastes in Movies, music and whatever. I just hope it will be good because they want to make 2 more as of now.

SEVERED HAND makes some good points for debate. The bottom line is, RZ has die hard fans that will love and praise everything he does regardless, as does Carpenter and many other directors. As far as RZ's record goes, I say he's 1 for 1. House of 1000 Corpse= BAD, Devils Reject's = GOOD. This is only MY opinion. Halloween remains to be seen. So the petty arguments about this film will get you nowhere. We all have different taste's and opinion's. So I urge everyone to be open minded and reasonable. Let's see the finished product, then really have a SERIOUS debate.

no sauron. i never once stated that i couldnt find the fan talkbacks (i have an account on ainc also)but i just dont see how what a bunch of people criticising a conversation defends your argument. it just doesnt make sense. and also anyone can check.. most of the forums related to halloween are all filled with nonsensicle reasons of hate for the movie just because of the director. i completely agree with you JonnyHorror. but im not debating on anything about the movie.. im debating with sauronthepittiful because he has no reason to be bashing a film that in my opinion looks great.. i have high hopes but nowhere have i said this movie will be deffinately good.. but he has just been saying how bad its going to be. he is very judgmental of a movie over a director..which is childish.

Carpenter will probably say.."I didnt see the movie, but thanks for making me a f**kload of money yet again" Ha! Ha!!

PISSING_LASERS, you hit the nail on the head. I'm sure Carpenter wants this to be huge. I'll bet there's a big check coming his way if it's a hit. GOLIATH SLASHER, good points. Some people are gonna hate this no matter what, and that's sad that it's not even given a chance. I can respect SAURON because he's standing up for what he believes is harmful to the original HALLOWEEN. I don't agree with his stance,but he's entitled to his opinion as we all are. By the way people, 28 days away.

what sauron said: "Secondly, you're lying because you then state that after supposedly NOT being able to find the user comments that AICN is simply a bunch of ROB-hating sychophants. What that tells anyone who has the functional use of more than 3% of their cerebral cortex is that you are pissed that SO MUCH HATE was directed at ROB and now you seek to childishly deflect blame to AICN as a ROB-hating bunker. ROB Zombie is but a festerring drop of literary urine in the ocean that is AICN." 1. i never said i wasnt able to find it 2.you seem to be one of those poeple i was talking about.. you know the ones who just post forums in a movie because of your hate of the director. your just pathetic already sauron.. just go away.

O......K.......M..A..Y..B..E..I.F. I talk r...e...a...l...l...y slowly you can 'get it,' so to speak. We have about a 68% to 32% split on these boards in favor of the movie. However, for anyone looking to get a "feel" for the overall buzz going around FROM NON BLOODY-DISGUSTING FREQUENTING MEMBERS (you know the ones whose word-of-mouth can make or break any movie financially), then maybe you should reread that talkback section. There are not one or two solitary posts bemoaning ROB Zombie's "vision." There are probably close to 50 that are OVERWHELMINGLY (got that, overwhelmingly) NEGATIVE. My point is that there are many OUTSIDE the horror-specific community who view this as the travesty that it will so surely go down as. Now, you want to talk-sh%t about my approach or make childish jokes trying to undermine what I say as plain truth then fine. But if you're gonna do that then you'd better be able to man-up and take it because you are obviously sorely mistaken to think that you are going to pick a cheap fight and then try to use the "just go away gimmick", junior.....You say EVERYONE shares your opinion about my stance and my opinion (posted Aug. 2, 2007 @8:58pm just so you don't try to say that I'm makin sh%t up again), hhmmm I can go back and point out DOZENS of examples where apparently you do indeed need Hooked on Phonics to stimulate a couple of extra points in the cortical cycle. Just to keep it on task.....this part's for Johnny, Haddon, even you Laser; we all are pretty aware of our individual positions. While others (actually Laser this probably includes you) are gonna blindly hype this movie, you know that there has to be some sort of rational balance as to why it COULD indeed suck. What makes ROB any more qualified than the next guy to helm this project? Is it credibility or celebrity? Blindly defending ROB is not a concrete reason to believe that this movie is going to be any good. I cannot emphasize that point strongly enough. If they are going to use Carpenter's characters, story, places, and ideas they'd better be prepared to make it REALLY good. Kinda good isn't going to cut it.....

Sorry Laser, I didn't quite get 100 lines there, but I'll try harder next time.....

SAURON. I can indeed see how this movie could end up sucking big time. I do like the trailer(s) I've seen this far and think it has a chance. My position is I think this route is the best way to go if your going to continue the character. Doing another sequel would be pathetic and pointless.This attempt by RZ atleast will be fresh in that it's added backstory and additional new stuff while keeping the same approach. This in no way is an indorsement for RZ from me. I love this movie (the original), so my expectations will be HIGH. I will be VERY critical and pay close attention to every detail of the film come Aug 31st. I'll call it as I see it, good or bad.

Johnny, I absolutely don't doubt your sincereity on the matter. You are going with a positive outlook whereas I am definately of the bent that this is a slap in the face. My point was that WE pretty much understand our positions on the matter and have attained a mutual respect as such. Anyone else looking to pick a cheap fight while not being able to factually back themselves up AND/OR living in a state of denial while blatant concrete evidance that cannot be ignored is staring them in the face is gonna get the verbal a%s-whooping that they so richly deserve. By the way, Bourne Ultimatum was excellent. One of the best wrap-ups that I've seen in years.....

PL, you are absolutely right. CHA-CHING!! HAHAHAHA!! BTW, House of 10000 Corpses = Crap, Devil's Rejects = A bigger pile of crap! Sorry, just one person's opinion!

Yeah, I'm in the exact same boat as Jonny Horror, my hopes are high but my expectations are even higher. I do feel however The Devil's Rejects was fairly well DIRECTED(Ebert, Roeper and countless others would back that statement up, thats of course if you tend to value those sort of opinions). I think many of the opinions are swayed simply because of the subject matter of the film rather then the technical skill (IMO) that it took to create it. Its not oscar worthy by any means but it serves as an entertaining and I thought well done brutality/torture-esque movie. This is where some of my hope lies, I think this is at least better then some of the total D-grade directors we've been privy to in the sequels thus far. RZ can be quite a pretentious prick at times but if he can come up with a good flick, then he's fine by me. I'm guessing the first half of RZ's Halloween (i.e. pre-adult Myers)will probably be weaker and less interesting, cause lets face it adult myers is much more fascinating (thats why the original kicks ass)...Oh and just to throw this out there even tho AICN and some other sites have 50 or 100 so negative comments, Rob's Myspace has 100's maybe thousands of positive comments supporting the movie, so bottom line I'd say in the movie universe, people are mostly split 50:50 on the movie as of now...I'll leave it at that, and simply agree to disagree with whoever is already against the film.

I'm not the arguing kind of guy, but in my view RZ's site is going to get a ton of positives in terms of reviews. I think those comments are pretty much subjective. I also know a bunch of people liked Rejects, but I for one, didn't. It wasn't the gore. For me it started with the script and then moved on to the filmmaking. I had problems with that movie in all areas.

Led, I agree with some of what you are putting forth. However, I gotta say that AICN is a fan-neutral site that deals with the movie industry in general. Fortunately or unfortunately, they are the 'buzz' of the industry and consequently the pulse of many movie goers who will determine financial success or failure for this or any other project. When you see the OVERWHELMINGLY negative fan talkbacks regarding this movie, in that environment (and let's be fair the OVERWHELMING majority were f$cking ROB over well beyond anything that I've said here) it has to make you wonder how the rest of the world OUTSIDE OF BLOODY-DISGUSTING is regarding this movie. AICN is NOT a site dedicated to slamming all things ROB (as some other posters would comically try to put forth as a diversion for their own rampant stupidity). Zombie's site however, has a ton of fellaciatic wanna-be fanboy lust by a crop of adolescent losers desperately looking to get their names attached in favor to a third rate celebrity simply because he has a degree of fame. Hence the source of my constant derision regarding that special ROB's Friends Myspace crowd. You cannot rationally compare the opinions of a bunch of fanboys posting on their patron's site to a neutral site that is widely recognized (again, like it or not) as industry standard. When you start hearing the same kinds of repetetive criticism in agreement from AICN, Tomatoes, etc. then you have to admit that there's trouble brewing. Rewrites and alternate endings are almost always NOT a good thing and the result of serious problems internally that are almost always (film history is LITTERED with examples) signs of a doomed project.....

Oh yeah...does anybody know if theres gonna be a novel based on the movie? If so,that could be something I'd pick up before 8/31...please let me know if you all have any info...

Also, wonder how it would be if some unknown dips**t came along and rubbed out ANOTHER worthless sequel on us?At least we know who "RZ" is and that he gave us some sorta heads up..."a bit of a remake and a prequel combined"...true fans have known the original worked w/o hardly a drop of blood(that movie will always scare the piss outta me),whos to say it cant work with an a**load of blood?...Sauron, isnt there like 2 more Bourne books?oops...a bit long , sorry you guys...

Not sure on the Ludlum books, but apparently there are not any books adapted to THIS project. And you are indeed correct, for too long we've had too many subpar writers and directors beating the crap out of this franchise. My Point, once again, is who's to say that ROB is any different? Simply because he's famous doesn't mean that he's good AND he has very little education or credibility coming into this. So why the hype? You know the answer that Malek Akkad would give, he just didn't expect the amount of sh%t that he's gotten by his choice.

Like I said before, I'm a KISS fan but I wouldn't want Gene Simmons to direct any movie just because he is the Demon, or Paul Stanley directing anything because he has theatrical experience. Take out the rock fame and just see where Rob Zombie stands as a director. Pretty simple, huh?

Yep

I tend to contradict myself sometimes,i thought i liked the sequels way back then,after some time i realized they sucked (H20 was the closest to the original they got)...Mr Pleasance was the only decent thing they had going 4 them...Dr Loomis was/is the sh*t,this whole movie may go tits up, but i bet the Doc will stand out nicely...nice choice of an actor as well...

Btw...I have the sick feeling that someone,somewhere is gonna try to remake "a clockwork orange" Ha! Ha!! only kidding...I'm sure RZ has had the nightmare where he grows the nad to try it,and Kubrick and Burgess stab him multiple times with pieces of broken copies of"educated horses"....My god.....could Zombie be planning something such as that? No, i'm sure i'm just over reacting,plus the man would be lynched in no time flat....

Yeah, Sauron I'm definitely not discrediting AICN members and I'm certaintly not in support of the ACTUAL Robs friends present on his myspace who will follow him to the ends of the earth. I was talking sheer numbers, I think the people going to see this, whether they be credible filmgoers or total fanboys are mostly split in terms of numbers...As for Rob, I think he's proven himself to be a better filmmaker (even with only The Devil's Rejects) then some of the sequel directors. That being said, the fans aren't looking for something on par with the sequels, they're looking for an amazing film, so he had better be damn good. I'll give him a little bit of extra respect BECAUSE he has no formal training and because he never went to film school and never had extended directorial experience and he still managed to produce (IMO) a decently well directed flick. Rob's just a big horror-movie fan (which make me question his motive to take on such a monumental remake) so I think deep down inside he's trying to produce something to cater to fans alike. I hope it works out...

Sauron. You are constantly pointing out that people here blindly support all things Rob. I have read through all the posts and didn't find even one who ever states that he/she thinks that the movie is gonna be great just because of the director. I may be wrong and in that case correct me..

I dont want to see this film just b/c Mr "Zombie" is directing it,or every actor with 10 hyphens in their names who also appeared in "Rejects" are in it-hammer down,sh**ty sequels were out of the question,it has to be sucessful in more than one way,or the franchise is dead and bloated,tits up dead....But the original can never be stained...wow...bit dramatic huh? But am i wrong??

Laser, you are correct in your assessment. And, if you really want to see the film on its own, then more power to ya. My point, AGAIN, is that from te beginning we've hear things like "a bold new direction in horror" and "this film is going to be f--king amazing," even before a SINGLR reel was shot. Coupled with the constant bombardment on the official/unofficial Myspace movie site of THRONGS of ROB devotees (many of whom have NO CLUE who Carpenter is, or what 1978 has to do with the word Halloween, follow me?) desperate to get their little avatar in the right hand corner of the screen under a 'celebrity's' banner while blindly praisning the creative vision of a hot, new horror filmmaker (who consequently is only allowed to make movies BECAUSE he has MTV-induced face fame). AND LET'S FACE IT.....Much of that same blind faith has spilled onto these boards. If you want to see it, fine. But remember that since this project first came together last year we have had to deal with the proverbial "Oh Please Mr. Zombie, notice me....." nonsense.

And yes.....I've often taken it beyond the line because of the script (which incidentally appears to be about 90% the same as the one that we were all screaming about back in January, IF the fan-advance reviews are to be believed). Coupled with my hatred of all things ROB, this script, and all of the footage that we've been 'leaked thus far, looks like a total piss fest on the characters, places, story, and vision that Carpenter worked so hard to put forth.