Hmmm...so this time the wife could be the killer. Betsy Russell supposedly appeared in Saw 2 & 3 as "Jill" but I don't remember her at all!

Man I am so excited. So many ideas are running through my head. Some might think it's too early to countdown but 3 months and 23 days baby!

No way. Not to early for a count down, Oct. 26th can't come soon enough!! Rigg...in a game...90 mins. to save an old friend? I heard Donnie Wahlberg was in Toronto during the filming of Saw 4...he was in the Toronto newspaper..the caption read.."in town shooting Saw 4" could have been a mistake...or is he the old friend Rigg must rescue?

Now this is intreging...by the way, Jill was NOT John's wife. She was a girlfriend. Now that it is in black and white that Jigsaw and Amanda are in fact dead people will shut the hell up about it but I will not hold my breath because someone will bitch about this article.

In what moments was that character in the films Saw 2 & 3?

hmm looks like the wife is going 2 be chopping them up maybe

soo...i'm guessing Jigsaw will just be laying there dead for the whole movie, as people cut him open, and there's clues inside of him? could be a cool idea, if that's what it is

Wasn't Jill in Saw III during one of Jigsaw's flashbacks on his deathbed?

wait it dosen't say anything about jeff playing his game on here his probaly not in the movie

I think the part about Riggs is the main plot, the producers said there will be four plots in the movie. So Riggs getting taken, OH MAN!This is going to be bitchin!

i think the "old friend" is detective matthews

Yeh sounds like its gonna be an awesome movie with a great ending, but has anyone noticed no one has lasted 3 films in the series so far everyone that makes it to there 3rd film dies in that film...i juss hope Rigg lives he is awesome but i am guessing he is gonna die...

I hope the characters actually have common sense in this one. Everyone else that was ever in jiggy's traps were complete idiots. It'd be nice to actually feel for the characters instead of cheering for the gore. But whodafuck am I kidding, I can't wait either way!!!

I also take it we're never going to find/see/hear about the remnants of the infamously disputed Dr. Gordon? I'd just like to know the finalized version of how he died, and see it summed up on screen. It's common sense he's dead, I don't want to hear any more bitchingandmoaning from the nutjobs.

hey yeahyeahyeah....on the other page though it says Jeff is back in this one.

and im thinking in the 3rd one, the connection will Obi is maybe Jigsaw's girlfriend kidnapped him, either that or maybe his girfriend was cheating on Jigsaw with Obi so then Jigsaw kidnapped him.

I think saw 4's gunna be awsome! But theres still a few things bugging me about the first saw movie.. 1) Jigsaw despises murderers...yet he doesn't mind slashing danny glover in the throat with a big heffin blade? It's damn lucky danny survived or good ole jiggy would have had to put himself through a game... 2) Again whats with that guy with the drills aimed at his head? Jigsaw gets angry at amanda's unwinable traps yet i dont see how the guy could have got out of that one. Lucky the cops showed up really... (notice that guys called jeff too?) 3) Why have they never explained why dr gordons pen was found at one of the traps? They seemed to make a big deal over it to begin with and then nothing...i know jigsaw could have easily taken it with dr gordon spending so much time around him but was there any kind of point to it? Or was it just to throw us of the scent a bit more? And finally the chances of one cancer patient suddenly deciding to kill people in horrific traps thats hes built himself are slim but theres a chance...the chance of him catching an equally insane person in one of these traps who then joins him and also has the ability to build some pretty complicated traps is very very rare...which is why im glad amandas dead, the ending to saw 2 really pissed me off! So please, in saw 4, no more equally crazy followers of jigsaw, let it all be somthing he's pre-set up, and if rig's gunna be kidnapped i hope the kidnapper is doing it for more personal reasons like zepp was!

I would ask if they on COMPLETELY running this series into the ground,but it looks as though i have my answer...

No they can make as many Saws as they want as long as they are good and keep people wanting more than i will see everyone till they quit....

in response to Joes_large_portion, for ur second thing about saw 1. the the drills were not Jeff's test. it was the cops test to see if they would rather capture jigsaw or save this man's life, much like "the rack" scene in #3 in which the other jeff has to decide if he would save his son's killer's life or not

I Think the close friend of Rigg is det. Matthews Ex or Wife or whatever they are because and Saw 2 they mention Matthews' Wife but not for a lot of stuff. And Rigg and Eric were probably friends so i am guessing if they were friends then Eric's wife was probably friends with Rigg...

And Eric Being the old friend would be just to easy to guess so i dont think its him...

And i wonder who "abducted" Rigg so obviously someone else is Involved unless Amanda kidnapped him right after we seen Kerry Die...

how about David form the first saw short film? they said it was from the first film....

to me saw 3's ending was pathetic, they either should of made it a 3 course movie or they should of made it a better ending where they kept the original characters so they could make it more of a prophecy ending.