YYYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!! FIRST BABY...........(my existance is indeed a sad one)

Clearly the movie isn't COMPLETELY finished because he'll be re-shooting based on what we think about the preview OBVIOUSLY.

Oh, I just knew NECA would jump at the chance at producing the remake's action figures. Gotta admit, their Cult Classics line is superior to McFarlane's Maniacs...

ROb ZOmbie's a stubborn, whiny fuck who had a shot at directing The Crow years ago, but didn't wanna play ball with Dimension/Miramax; the very company distributing his version of Halloween. He likes to complain about how the buisness works. He one time likened it to being a chef ina big kitchen, cooking what other people order, and I'm sure he drives a valid point. But Hollywood is a buisness. Movies are a business. They're not just entertainment (unfortunately) they're dollar signs, and lots of money goes into one film. I bet he made this flick for 35, 40 million tops, and it makes little 90 to little over 100 million (given today's audiences and the hype of the film) So if he doesn't have to re-shoot anything, he's not gonna do it. That's what test audiences are for. It was a single test audience that changed the fate of Curse, creating an alternate producer's cut. Has anybody seen that by the way, that was a hell of a retooling of the myers character and Loomis, too.

Dead Gerbil Under The Fridge, your an idiot. please do research before you think you know what you are talking about. rob zombie has been offered to do halloween many times before, but he kept saying no becuase he didnt have any idea how to change it. he is a fan of halloween so he didnt want to do just to do it. then a final time he was offered and sayed yes because he finally had a idea how to reimagine with out raping the original. if he was in for the money he would have chosen jessica simpson to play lynda, and other famouse pop stars just for the money ( halloween resurection for example). he would also wanted to do a sequel if he was in for the money, but it turns out he doesnt want to direct a sequel...

Since when did Rob first get offered the job to do a Halloween, Amanda? After the “phenomenal” success of House of 1000 Corpses? After The Devils’ Rejects? How many times had he turned the chance to direct Michael down before? I guess I do need to research it more, but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of Rob Zombie being offered a chance to fuck up Halloween, and he took it. This is his third film. A hobby/experiment if you will. Sure his music was motivated and inspired by horror movies, but that doesn’t make you a filmmaker. Maybe I’m wrong. But I do know he had a chance to do The Crow: God and Monsters, years ago, but couldn’t handle it (this was before House of 1000 Corpses by the way). If you want proof, check out a back issue of Rolling Stone or the long defunct Blood Songs magazine for details about Rob’s so-called past plans for the crow. Sheesh, the synopsis he gave had nothing to do with what the story of The Crow was all about, that’s for sure. So unless you can prove that they’ve been trying to woo Rob Zombie for Halloween and he had turned it down, I guess I’ll just have to go with what I know. And no, money or not, Jessica Simpson or any other example would not have been one of his choices. He at least has an eye for casting. But if it'll make you feel better, I'll research how many times Rob was offered Halloween until finally giving in to temptation or peer pressure or whatever...

maybe Sauron knows how many times he was offered the job...

No, but Sauron knows Sheri's, sorry Amanda's, an idiot. Probably one of the fifteen (or was it one person voting 15 times) who rated Halloween 2 (yes the remake) as 4 stars when we haven't even wrapped on this piece of crap yet. W-f%cking-OW!!! Seriously, there are some people who come here and blindly pontificate how ROBBIE is the paragon of cinematic genius and that his Midas touch is GUARENTEED to regenerate a long dead franchise, because hey, he's ROB. These are the same people who redundantly claim that 'we' are idiots for attempting to judge the product before its release, yet they judge it as superior without that same knowledge. Typical liberal doublespeak by a bunch of illiterate, uneducated, petulant fools whose definition of hard research is a session at wikipedia. Sheri, do you even know who Midas was? Based on your previously comic attempts at rudimentary mathematics I would surmise that your educational experience in life was limited to the literary works of Carson Daly and TRL. Just as I am labelled a "hater" who spouts invective against ROB at every opportune moment, there are those who ceaselessly preach the cult of ROB, and how everyone should just weep at his glorious presence. UUUUGGGGHHHHHHHH, I'm gonna be sick.....

Firstly, I was JOKING. "this is the first time I’ve ever heard of Rob Zombie being offered a chance to fuck up Halloween" So, he's going back in time to change Carpenter's movie? "These are the same people who redundantly claim that 'we' are idiots for attempting to judge the product before its release, yet they judge it as superior without that same knowledge. Typical liberal doublespeak" Liberal doublespeak? someone bringing a LOT of their own issues here. Beside the fact that assuming the worst possible result will be the most likely is a fairly common conservative move I've seen VERY FEW people say the movie will be fantastic, at least compared to the amount of nutters ready to drag Rob Zombie in front of the UN. Most people who are written off as 'Zombie fans' by those idiots seem to have a wait and see attitude without judging it at all because we understand no matter what happens the original WILL STILL BE THERE.

So glad they are done shooting - now I can sleep at night.

And in typical doublespeak you are judging the "probable" outcome based on what criteria? Your prescient knowledge of the internal workings of the cinema industry is based on what?.....

I see! You are here to 'educate' us as to the mechanics of reality and thereby hopefully spread light on, and possibly cure, our 'issues.' How mighty charitable of you.....

that is truly great i hope to see it in théthea the new hallowen movies.

OK,people,you tell us:How many more artistically devoid,crapfests ("original"((HA!)),sequels or remakes)is mr.cummings allowed to inflict upon the world before you think it's OK for us to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt.I thought 2 was a fair number,but obviously a lot of you guys disagree.3? 23? What?

Sauron - what outcome am I judging? it'll be good or it'll be bad, I'd rather reserve my opinion until I've actually SEEN THE MOVIE but clearly you've decided that's not really important in the whole decision making process. Just to doublespeak and repeat my main point (you really should get another term because you're using that one so out of context it's slightly sad) even if it's terrible a) it's only a movie and nobody will make you watch it and b) there's still the original. superfry - beside the fact that taste in movies is purely subjective, why would you ever not give anyone involved in the creative process the benefit of the doubt? If they make a movie that's bad you can just ignore it, if it's good then you've got something to watch. It's like talking to children on here.

Obviously you haven't been posting here long enough or aren't paying attention.....Just to stimulate your intellect (judging by the content of your posts, I might be here a while), why don't you tell me what qualifications ROB possesses as a filmaker that we should blindly place our faith in his ability to ressurect (bad pun) this franchise? Were you really this excited when 5,6,7, and 8 were coming out? Did you not learn your lesson from those disasters? Do you propose to tell us that because he's ROB, and MYspace has pledged undying fealty to all things ROB, that he's automatically gonna shine blessings on this piece of crap. How many times are you gonna bang your head on the wall until you know it hurts? Have you not read the script? You know, the script that supposedly wasn't the "REAL" script that was being revised but then the movie mysteriously stayed on schedule within days after the hoopla (doesn't sound like a script rewrite was in the works there, does it Tex?) Since the movie wrapped within its allotted time and we're talking a cast of 33, I don't see how ROB could've possibly drastically reworked this nonsense with all the players involved and directed at the same time. Wait! Maybe Sheri did the revisions. Wait! Maybe there were no revisions. Wait! Maybe ROB should've went to filmschool so he's not bitching about how difficult it is to make movies or how much is involved. If filmaking was ROB's LEGITIMATE profession, and not a hobby, I would take him more seriously and maybe even offer an iota of respect. But you would seem content to sit idly by and write ROB a blank check, that he has no hopes of cashing, to rape a masterpiece at his will and whimsey just so Malek Akkad can satisfy a bunch of MTV wannabe's desperate to be included in all things ROB. Another bad sequel is far less offensive than totally pissing over a seminal masterpiece in the history of cinema because your ego thinks that Carpenter failed to explain certain aspects of his story, but you are the one who's gonna educate everyone as to the way things should've been (quotes directly from Zombie's mouth). (If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck.....) And I seriously doubt your perceived ability to correct any aspect of my methods.

I poop on this movie. I defecate all over it with big smiles while pissing in the wind, because that's what we're all doing anyway, just pissing in the wind. Principal photography has just wrapped, we can’t stop it, God, Jay-zus help us please. Oh, lordy, lordy, lordy. What’s next, Michael worships Satan. Michael *Gasps* is Satan. Judging by the shot of the Myers Tombstone alone, this film will have a cartoony feel anyway. I don’t know why, but that’s the impression I have. Ack, sensory overload. Obviously, there are more than just two opposing sides to this issue. You have your diehard fans of the original; your diehard Rob Zombie fans; you have those who like both Rob and the original Halloween; you have those who love Rob but don't like the original (you know who you are); and you have those newbies who'd probably never even seen the fucking original, but LOVE the Robmeister so his take has to be good, right? Nope. Rob's name doesn't mean shit on a stick. I piss on this film. HaHaHaHaHaHa... Seriously though, hypothetically, what if…and I mean that’s a mighty huge IF…it’s good? Will I come back and eat my words? No. I stand by my views. Don’t remake a classic. Don’t re-imagine a character like Michael Myers or Dr. Loomis. Why? Michael doesn’t have emotions and Dr. Loomis is dead. Rob’s trying to give Mikey some depth; my stomach churns to this day when Myers sheds a tear as he is about to kill his young niece in Halloween 5. Thank god he snapped out of it. You see, children, Michael, the character that has evolved from the original, is not supposed to have any regret, love, or remorse, because, as in the original, in Dr. Loomis’s assessment, there wasn’t anything even remotely human about Myers. He’s like a machine in his demeanor. Living, breathing evil. He’s unreasonable. He doesn’t have to fly into fits of rage, though we did see a little bit of that in Halloween 5 (which introduced the man in black with the Thorn tattoo, so it was straying from the meaning of Halloween anyway). What is the meaning you ask? Simplicity. Bad guy in creepy mask stalks babysitters because he likes putting large kitchen knives through pretty girls. I got that when I was eight. Nobody, and I mean nobody would have read too much into it had there not been any other sequels, period. But since they began to develop a back-story for the characters and even Myers, we, as fans of the original, who love our boy The Shape, bought into it. But I’m not buying into this remake crap. So now I’m gonna log off and go watch the original Halloween on mute while listening to The Devil’s Rejects soundtrack, just to punish myself for even giving a shit in the first place…BOO-YAH!

Another stupid reason some people give is that they just wanna see Michael Myers "back".If zombie's going to change EVERYTHING we've ever known about him and "reimagine" his story,how the HELL can this be considered a "return" of any kind.Seriously.What is it that constitutes Michael Myers to you people?Just the mask?I suppose if zombie made Myers a midget and substituted the Leprechaun for Loomis you'd still give this the benefit of the doubt or eat it up like the handfuls of excrement you've already been fed and then thank him because to you the crap of a self-proclaimed "fan" tastes so much better than anyone elses.By supporting this you can expect the deluge of worthless,watered down remakes to continue.Thank you for killing any hope of Hollywood trying something original.

Yes, everyone has his or her own opinion. But it should solely be based on the facts of what we have already seen and what we now know to be true about the remake. Not whether or not you “LOVE” Rob Zombie. Those of you who know anything about Michael know what I mean. He is a classic! I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the people that think this movie is going to be great have even taken the time to see the original. All I know is that Michael Myers does not speak, he answers all your questions with a slash or gash, and he is not…. I repeat not to be tampered with. He was fine the way he was. I don’t need an explanation of how he got that way or why he does the things he does. He is freaking Michael Myers for god sake. Self-explanatory! All of Rob Zombies loyal followers will definitely think this movie is the greatest movie ever made. Because we all know that House of 1000 Corpses was wonderful. HA! That’s how the world works. You attach yourself to some icon, you follow his or her work like a mindless android, and no matter how bad the shit stinks you love it. Why people can’t have a mind of their own and wait for the movie to come out to pass an educated decision on it is beyond me. But, when you look at the facts right in front of you and you know Michael Myers it looks as though it is a freaking butcher of one of a lot of people’s all time favorites. That in it is enough to make me sick!

The original was an independant film picked up later by Hollywood because it was a sleeper success i.e. surprise hit. So naturally, the highest bidder got the rights and Akkad went right along with it. He said he'd keep making them as long as they kept making money. Sure, you'd pay to go see Myers no matter what situation they put him in, and the suit and ties know it. Hollywood is about the almighty dollar, because lots of money go into one film and can potentially come out of it as well. They (bigshots) even had a contest where the winner got a walk-on role on this film for crissakes. This isn't Chuck E. Cheese, this is Halloween, a classic suspense movie that has helped shape horror into what it is today. Sure, it's become a "franchise", and that's sad. Wes Craven didn't intend for a sequel of Nightmare, but the producers asked him to leave the ending open just in case. Same goes for Carpenter's Halloween. He was an up and coming independant who needed a financial backer, and that backer took it to the bank. So even though Carpenter's name is all over the original, he didn't, nor will he, het the same residuals from his original as Rob will for his vision. Bottom line, Rob's getting a nice paycheck for desecrating someone else's work.

Rob took somebody else's jock-o-lantern and took a big dump inside it.

L O FUCKING L...exactly...

i guese you guys are forgeting that before john carpenter filmed halloween, he only had filmed 2 movies also like rob zombie...and they werent all that great.... i aint even going to respond to you four morons anymore i am just wasting my time on people who have no lifes.....and yes rob has been offored to do halloween more than once... i aint even going to post a link, if you want to know just google it....

John Carpenter went to film school...with Nick Castle, the first Michael Myers...Don't think Robbie went to film school...he said he's orchestrated tours and directed music videos and worked on the set of Pee Wee's Playhouse...so, how hard could making a movie be? Well, he found out with House of 1000 corpses, didn't he? It's a challenge to shoot a movie; managing the cast, crew and scheduling as well as adapting the story to fit the allowed budget. So it's even more daunting to try to take on a remake of a classic like Halloween with no film school training. Why do you need training? Because there's more to learn about then how to operate a camera. You also have to recognize what's worth your time and the studio's money. Rob's a hobbyist film maker. He grew up on horror just like the rest of us and incorporated its theme into his style of music (which is where he should've stayed). But hey, if you want to do more than sing, go for it. Don't let nobody tell you that you can't do it. But if you're going to do something, make sure you know what you're doing. It is arrogant to accept the job of remaking Halloween, no matter who you are. Regardless of whether he had turned Halloween down before or not is irrelevant because he took the job now and his vision now is shit. Did you know he wanted to do a Crow movie? Now there's a movie that should never have had a sequel, just like Halloween as a matter of fact. And yet, Rob wanted to do a Crow film (after City of Angels), making the character of the Crow (the bird) a neautral figure in the war between God and Satan...Hmm, big deviation from the Crow mythos, too...if you don't believe that, then go and google it. It just sounds to me that Rob wants to do HIS version of everybody else's work...what's already been done before. He's not original, thart's for damn sure. Look at house of 1000 corpses. The first 10 minutes were excellant and had promise, but the rest of the movie became a blatant rip-off of what...? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It wasn't a homage as he claimed. You pay homeage the way Gunnar Hansen did in that Skeeter movie when his character picked up a chainsaw and said, "I haven't picked up one of these in a long time." Now that's a homage...a tribute. So Rob loved the charcter of the Fireflies and tried to justify everything by making The Devil's Rejects something else, and yet, we get the same kind of preface/dialogue describing the fireflies at the beginning of Rejects that we get in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. What the fuckety fuck? When Rob touches on something ORIGINAL, then I won't be so quick to question his talent as a story-teller. But in the mean time...there's HALLOWEEN.

ooops, forget my user name, that last rant was me btw...

FINALLY !!! It's in the can. Now we wait to see the trailer.Then let the real lovefest and bashing begin. I personally like the "look" from what we've seen of the pictures provided and the MTV behind the scenes footage. I just watched the original again last Saturday for the ba-zillion time. And I think RZ for the most part captured the suburban look of Haddonfield in the original. I think another thing to remember about this remake is that the violence needed to be raised in intensity for todays standards. What was scary in 1978, is not so much today. I watched the original with my 16 year old niece, and though she liked it, it really didn't make her jump out of her seat like it did to me when I saw it so many years ago in the theater. Good or bad, it's just another sign of the times that I thought I would point out. Don't FREAK on me hater's, I just making an observation......PEACE.

Hi,Dead Gerbil.Let's not forget to add liberal doses of Jack Hill's SPIDER BABY to the list of rip-off wells from which mr.cummings draws from in HOIKC.The "Baby"character was lifted pretty much wholesale from that film.

Touché

Sheri, (Amanda) about the smartest thing to come out of your mouth was the last. Finally, you are conceding defeat because your infantile grasp on reality has given you the sad epiphany that you are sorely overmatched here.....Carpenter was mediocre from the get go you surmise? You are comparing ROB Zombie to John Carpenter? (let me pause to clean up, I think I just pissed myself) Precinct 13 not a classic in your mind? So I WAS INDEED correct that your idea of deep research is to "GOOGLE IT....." W-m^therf#cking-OW!!!!!

Hey,Sauron.Amanda apparently doesn't like DARK STAR either.Probably has never heard of it except when she pops over to IMDB for whatever info she can get.OK,amanda,you want to compare filmographies then let's compare 1st films.DARK STAR would probably just go right over your head...like everything else seems to.

Fella's, take it easy. Amanda's just speaking her mind like everyone else is, good or bad, it's just different opinions. My invitation for discussion over cocktail's still stands...PEACE.

Sauron, you successfully ignored my entire post and just crapped on about ROB (why the capitals) some more. Clearly you're not bright enough to grasp the concept that some people have NO FEELINGS AT ALL about Rob Zombie either way and you're only here to try and boost your ego by pathetically attacking people, so I'll leave you and superfry to your daisychain.

So...what the hell are they gonna do after this one, three or five years down the road? Forget about it and start from scratch most likely. Oh, yeah. They'll disregard it like H20 disregarded sequels 4, 5, and 6. I mean, seriously, are we going to remake all the sequels, too? Oh, well, guess Rob's version is better than what was originally proposed before he came in to "save" it. They were gonna do an all-out prequel sans the mask and focus on Michael in the institution.

discussion over coctails, hmmm...I sure as hell could go for a beer right now, but I'd have to drive forty miles round trip...fuck that crap. Anyway, folks aren't just perturbed because a classic is being remade, but because Michael is being remade...and I think it's disrespectful to bring Loomis back, at least in the movies, with another actor. I have an idea...whatever happened to the manuscript Loomis mentioned in Curse? Something could've been based on that. Or the baby from Curse...he'd be about 12 or so now, so why not go after him? Anything's better than a remake. I just hope to hell (adult) Michael hasn't changed a whole lot, that would ruin it for me right on the spot...

DEAD GERBIL. I don't want to Know how you came up with that name. But a beer not only sounds good, it tastes even better. With all due respect, I personally would much rather see a Re-imagining exploring MM's upbringing than another horrible sequel. You mentioned the "Curse" sequel, and again, no offense, but those were all terrible. I'm NOT saying RZ WILL deliver, but I think anew direction is the best way to go. And also, it's not exactly a remake. He's using alot of the specifics from Carpenter's story, but adding alot of new unexplored detail. That's what makes this easy for me. If RZ was doing an EXACT remake of the original, then I think the scrutiny would be alot more justifiable. He's doing a version that will stand on it's own with his name attached to it. I know it's not easy for those who will hate this no matter the outcome, but take solace and know that the original will be here forever and you can forget about this version just like I have never acknowledged Halloween 3,4,5,6,7,Blah, Blah, crap.

Take a break from your social studies homework to try and digest the sad truth of this matter: I've probably forgotten more since lunchtime than you'll ever hope to attain in your entire time on this planet. Call it ego, call it narcissism. Call it the truth because it is what it is my friend. If you had the mental capacity to click and think at the same time you would see that I indeed provided you with quite a lengthy response in this thread at precisely 1:34pm on March 24. Dumbass. Matter of fact: Double Dumbass on you for not checking before you post.....It strikes me as kind of strange that someone who professes to be truly neutral and doesn't give a sh#t about any of this would be so consistant in their sad attempts at dialogue. If you don't have any feelings about this, as you comically claim, then why are you so adament in your posts. I seriously doubt you are the fence-sitter you are attempting to portray here. What is probably more likely the case is that you are attempting some adolescent form of reverse psychology, and yes liberal doublespeak, with the ultimate goal of defending ROB's integrity. If you are truly neutral, WHY DO YOU APPARENTLY GIVE A F*CK so much.....Seems like I have to denigrate my own character to get it through to some of you people.....YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO F#$KING IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!! WOW! I'm actually starting to miss the good old days of fighting with Johnny and Daveberg lately. At least those halcyon days contained some rational thought processes.....

Just so some of us are clear: welcome back Johnny, not sure about peace yet (gotta purge the idiot mentality) and that last post was meant for another. It seems I HAVE to point that out because some people can't figure out (or choose to ignore) when they're being addressed.....

Nevr had a gerbil and I don't own a fridge LOL... Anyway, yes, all of the sequels, including Hallowen II, were terrible. There never should've been a sequel let alone a series. I was just making suggestions based on what I know about this particular film. You can't re-invent something without changing it. True. And I'm sure Rob's aim is to make Michael scary again, but explaining why he is the way he is takes away from the mystery...the source of the true terror. If you show Michael as a troubled young boy who had been verbally abused by a father figure, neglected by a slutty mom, picked on by bullies, then it's no longer Michael Myers The Boogieman. It's "That crazy, dysfunctional Myers boy. Lock your doors." Scary. See, 6 yr old Mike had a blank look on his face after he killed Judith. Dr. Loomis described him as being blank and pure evil, even in his youth. Now he's just some psychopath with a mask and a big knife. This particular character is supposed to be myterious. To me, it's a whole hell of a lot scarier when you don't know why someone did that awful, terrible thing they did. I remember having seen the first Halloween, waaaay back in the mid eighties, when I was a young pup, before I had even known there was a sequel, and found myself thinking how scary it was that Michael just got up and walked away after taking six slugs... and it was over. No explanation other than Dr. Loomis's assessment. And he didn't need medical training to realize "that what was behind that boy's eyes was purly, simply evil..." Now that's scary. At any rate, I think it's just sad that nobody can come up with something fresh and new and original, and I don't mean in regards to another Michael Myers story because that's been done to death. I mean get those gears cranking. Come up with a new villian to scare us. People will cheer for Michael no matter what now. Hell, I'm an aspiring (struggling writer myself and I appreciate the value of a good story). It's not just this remake that irks me, it's all of them. Oh, and plus, Rob Zombie hasn't done anything original. Period. House of 1000 Corpses "borrowed" heavily from other films and it just seemed rushed. Devil's Rejects was better. I know you gotta start somewhere, but for those veterans who did in the past, their films went on to become classic fan favorites that are being remade into junk today...So in the grand scheme of things, Halloween should've been left alone with zero sequels...period.

DEAD GERBIL. You make alot of sense and I can see your point's. I am also a big fan of the original and it does sting when hollywood comes along and wants to make a buck on remakes. I guess I just take the optimistic approach and hope for the best. Deep down I want Michael to be scary as hell like when I remember seeing him the first time in '78. I cringe at the thought of Halloween 9,10, or whatever it is. SAURON. I don't think anyone has had the verbal warfare that rivals our exchange. But were both big enough to say enough and move on, even though we may disagree, there is respect established. I think we can give hope to all and anyone on the boards. The DEBATES are what it's about, try and leave the personal shit alone. after all, were all just horror fans. The most committed of the genres.

True enough, but like you said earlier, it's hard when you're dealing with pulitzer material.....

This is what I know: I enjoy the fact the one can go on-line and post there thoughts about trivial fandom in movies or whatever, and Halloween is definitely one of the better genre trend-setters to chit-chat about. The purpose of a User Comment's Post is to allow the fanatics of these movies to express their views and thoughts about their current status in the mainstream. You can be rest assured that these films-as long as we paying fans exist-will be made and remade and “re-imagined” as long as the price is right, and that’s going to piss some folks off. When you start communicating with other people's opinions (and some will differ from yours) you start getting disagreements, and with disagreements can come heated debates-which can be fun, too, on a moderate level. At any rate, one should respect the other’s opinion, as I believe I have done so thus far…sure I’ve cussed Rob Zombie and his “vision” of this inevitable remake and bashed the film right into the ground; Indeed, I debated with Amanda (not on whether Rob turned it down fifty times before, I was just questioning the relevance) but my opinion doesn’t influence how good a film will be, or an excited fan’s views. I am just as opposed of this and all remakes as anyone on here who is opposed, because (with the exception of SAW) the very people who grew up on these kinds of films (just like you and me) have gone on to film-making careers and “remade” everything, or came out with more of the same crap. For Every Ring or Grudge or Jason or Michael Myers, there is a direct to video piece of shit doppelganger of a blatant rip-off thrust onto the shelves along with it. And it’s not just the writers and the directors. No, they’re usually victims of circumstances. Horror is small Hollywood, but sometimes bigger studios will come into play and when that happens, your favorite flick or anti-hero gets sold out. Look at Wes Craven’s New Nightmare: Freddy was way different than Wes’s original representation and it poked fun directly at its Hollywood makers. Now, if that isn’t a complete Freddy overhaul, I don’t know what is. That character was so different it’s not even funny. But somehow, it wasn’t a bad film. Could’ve been better…but not trash. Now the character of Michael (which I’m a bigger fan of than Freddy’s anyways) is at risk for a similar kind of make-over. That just sucks to me. I mean, haven’t any of you ever thought to yourself, “Man, even I could’ve done better than that?” Again, New Line Cinema: Jason goes to hell for instance. He’s not even in a hockey mask for most of the movie, and what about the cybernetic overhaul he got in Jason X? Big deviations of the character. So as long as Michael doesn’t talk or cry or act weird in this one (bottom line, be the Michael we saw in the original Halloween) then I’ll feel a little bit better. But alas, I know it won’t be. Rob’s going to unveil the mystery of his opinion of how Michael works and we will see it, one way or the other (even those who think they really don't want to). Oh well, at least there’s the original…

So essentially you're all a bunch of worthless cunts who like to think they know more than people. Not worth my time I'm afraid, enjoy your sad, inane lives.

Jesus, my time constraints dis-allowing me to post much on here goes to show that I'm constantly missing the argument bandwagons around these parts! Forgive my laziness but I'm far too tired to sit and read through the back log of stuff here, but it looks like the usual big hitters are more than involved. Anyways, enough drivel. So they've finally wrapped up the shooting huh, well, let's hope they can do a half decent job on the editing side and try provide us with some kind of continuity or familiarity's that we know and love from the original. Even though that's slightly hypocritical of me to say as i know this movie is intended to be something 'different' from Carpenters original. I'm still holding optimism for this film, despite what people are saying about Rob's poor film making credentials (Don't know enough about him to judge) So you'll forgive my 50/50 walk the fence attitude until l i see the end result. I have to say i am intrigued though, will the money making machines want to spawn sequels from this......my money says yep.

I guess the intellectual superiority schtick's gone by the wayside there, hey Scottie. Care to educate us anymore there Tex.....Later! DVBG, I even slipped you a second little compliment.....

I myself haven't even put up a fence to ride let alone stand on one side of...Sure I'm guilty of wanting to see Michael again, but this isn't the Michael (a lot of us) don't want to see. A movie's a movie and like an asteroid on a collision course with earth, Rob's flim is coming our way...

You,too,scott!We certainly enjoy yours!Thanks for stopping,buh-bye.

Why thank you, Sauron. You just have to know when to accept someone's opinion for what it is, and move on, i know you an others such as Superfry detest the prospect of this movie hitting theatres and it's in high contrast to my own personal thoughts, but each to their own, I'd rather debate and get along, than exchange un-pleasantries and waste time bitching with you guys, we're all fans of some sort, otherwise we wouldn't be posting about Halloween in the first place. Anyhow, with Zombie and his outlook on things, I'm wondering if he'll have a different ending for Michael, Seeing as he's basically portraying Michael as mortal, i highly doubt he could be served up with 6 Loomis bullets flying his way in the finale......

I think they're gonna use knifesabers.....

In the end, there can be only one...Michael Myers...Hi-Ho, Silver, away...

I seem to recall having heard someone say that maybe Rob should change the ending because "the series will continue on with or without him." So I'm curious as to whether Rob has decided to kill him off or what? I guess making him mortal or human or whatever makes it more realistic and realistic is scary, right? I don't know about you, but if some seemingly unstoppable badass in a scary mask was coming after me and six slugs only slowed him down, I'd be shitting spinal fluid.