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First Footage From 'Halloween', More Details, Sequel News?!
Wednesday, March 7, 2007


By: MrDisgusting
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This morning MTV posted an exclusive visit to the set of Rob Zombie's Halloween remake in Pasadena, CA where they talked with writer/director Rob Zombie and stars Brad Dourif, Tyler Mane, Malcolm McDowell and the new Laurie Strode, Scout Taylor-Compton. Inside you'll find the highlights from the article, which features breaking news on a different theme(!), changes in the script, a sequel tease and details on how often Michael Myers talks (could it be never?). Watch for Halloween in theaters August 31.


This morning MTV posted a huge article on Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN, which featured a small video from the set. Here are some of the highlights:

"Michael does not talk," Zombie exclaims in the video. Malcom McDowell confirms, "In one scene we do, he's completely blank and I'm trying to coax him," McDowell said of his work with Daeg Faerch, who plays a young (and verbal!) Myers. "He gets to deliver [lines], but of course the older Michael is completely [silent]; he doesn't say a thing, he just wears a mask and terrifies everybody to death."

Zombie also reveals, "Michael Myers does not know how to drive in this movie," the long-haired, tattooed filmmaker told MTV over the weekend on the set of his highly anticipated remake of one of horror's most beloved slasher films (see "Rob Zombie Resurrecting Michael Myers For New 'Halloween' "). "[Myers in the station wagon] always bothered me. They would always play that off like someone must have given him lessons, but you know no one gave him lessons! He's in a maximum-security prison! So, no, he doesn't drive."

MTV writes that contrary to Internet rumors, Zombie's "Halloween" has no discernible time period and begins well before the original's opening scene of young Michael killing his sister Judith (Laurie doesn't even come into the film until the final third). Now, the 6-year-old slaughters five of his relatives and is then sent to Loomis' sanitarium.

But here's a whopper of a surprise as MTV reveals that one final change might just be the most controversial of them all: The dropping of the famous "Halloween" theme composed by Carpenter. "The plan was at some point to [remake it], to change it around," Zombie said, revealing that it has since been shelved. "The actual way it sounds now doesn't really work with what we're doing."

Among the other notable moves that Zombie is embracing:

· The Myers' house is much larger, with a battered porch, "No Trespassing" boards on the windows and a "For Sale" sign out front reading "Strode Real Estate - Price Reduced." A blue RAM van in the driveway belongs to an ill-fated boyfriend, and a climactic battle between Laurie and Michael takes place in an empty swimming pool in the backyard.

· In the original, Myers killed two dogs, even eating one of them; this time PETA can relax. "No, there is nothing like that at all," Zombie said.

· While in the sanitarium, young Michael makes masks out of paper — a bucket of papier-mâché versions of his famous mask was glimpsed on set.

· Loomis steals a Town of Haddonfield police car in the film, using it as his transportation.

· Don't hold your breath for a Jamie Lee Curtis appearance à la "H20." "There are no real cameos," Zombie said. "There is no one from the original film."

· Look for a genre veteran as Myers' new best bud. "Danny Trejo, who always plays the badass, is playing the one sympathetic hospital worker at Smith's Grove," the director explained. "He's been with Michael for 17 years there."

· Zombie has stocked the cast with veteran actors like Udo Kier ("He's the head of Smith's Grove"), Tom Towles ("He plays a councilman who is at [Myers'] parole hearing"), Adrienne Barbeau ("She has a brief moment as a woman at the adoption agency in Haddonfield") and Sybil Danning ("[She is] a young Michael's last victim at Smith's Grove").

· McDowell and Taylor-Compton say they'd return for additional "Halloween" sequels, but Zombie insists he's done after one. ("Everything I've wanted to do I've done with this movie," he remarked.)

· Zombie won't replicate Carpenter's classic one-take opening scene. "Since I've already spent a half-hour developing the little kid," he reasoned, "to do any kind of mysterious POV would be ridiculous."

· Laurie has traded in her skirts and turtlenecks for Chuck Taylor sneakers and a skull-depicting hoodie. "She's conservative, but she has a little bit of an attitude now," said Taylor-Compton, whose character engages in a risqué conversation about bagel holes with her embarrassed mom.
HALLOWEEN hits theaters everywhere August 31


Source: MTV

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Barry
2:25pm, March 7, 2007
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No Halloween theme?. Are they crazy?. I can take everything else, but no theme?. I imagine most people won't stand behind that one.

Brad
3:11pm, March 7, 2007
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I dont care about the theme, believe me, he would only take it out if it makes the film better. Not just for the sake of it. I love that there changing up laurie. Cause since the original the innocent virgin role has been done to death. And i think it will be cool they he does everything by foot. Cant wait till August 31st!

Sean
3:27pm, March 7, 2007
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Theres some controversy about the MTV video, Rob never said they were not gonna use a Theme, just the John Carpenter original theme would not be used. Maybe that music from the fake teaser trailer will be the theme as it originated from the guy doing the actual music for the film.

Michael Myers's Overalls
3:29pm, March 7, 2007
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So a couple of wardens offer Myers a fellow patient to rape, but nobody cares to offer him driving lessons? Those Smith's Grove guys really need to get their priorities in order...

Christian
3:37pm, March 7, 2007
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No theme...He's Bluffing. He wouldn't, He couldn't..he will. Damn.

JK
3:49pm, March 7, 2007
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Rob is a stupid hack for not using the original theme.

superfry
3:53pm, March 7, 2007
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Christ,just when you think Dimension has almost managed to pull zombies head from his ass,they go and screw something else up.No HALLOWEEN theme?What the hell?

Jonny
4:05pm, March 7, 2007
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First of all, I urge ALL hater's and fans to go to the MTV site and see the footage from the set. I was blown away by the look of the film. It actually shows Michael stalking the streets in daylight and it looks creepy as hell and definately has the look and feel of the original. Tyler Mane looks awesome. And please read all the details. There's been alot of talk on here about people who THINK they no the script, like Michael talking as an adult (he does not). Also explains the reason for the look of the mask. I also like that he does not have Michael drive like in the original. If you think about it, it really made no sense because he's been locked up. How does he learn to drive? So far I'm liking the direction and look of the film. RZ is definatley making it his own.And by not using Carpenters score (music), is further reason to not compare this to the original. It share's the title and character's, but the story is really different. Like I've said, this will be better than any of the crappy sequels.

Steve
4:19pm, March 7, 2007
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It's going to be hard to get me back on my good side for this movie. No classic Halloween theme, are they crazy? The music is equated to the Jaws music, since -- be honest -- Michael wouldn't have been as scary if it wasn't for the music. As for the video, it won't let Canadians watch, =/. If anyone has another link it'd be much appreciated.

Michael Myers's Overalls
4:24pm, March 7, 2007
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"RZ is definatley making it his own" - Knowing Dimension, this is probably anything *but* Zombie's preferred version of the movie.

BloodFlow
4:24pm, March 7, 2007
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NO HALLOWEEN THEME??????? WAIT A SECOND...WAAAIIIITTT A FUCKING SECOND!!!!! WHAAAAT?????? WTF??? Are you kidding me??? I love Rob and all but this...umm...this isn't good. Oh fuck it, I trust him. In the end, he'll come through. But still....FUCK!!!!! :(

daniel clavette
4:39pm, March 7, 2007
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Rombie zombie will be going only one halloween and they won,t second one .

Bullsh*t
5:11pm, March 7, 2007
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So it's filming in Pasadena and they are sending video updates to MTV? What the f*ck is this? Laguna Beach?!? What a bunch of sh*t

Daniel
5:17pm, March 7, 2007
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No Halloween theme?! You can DEFINITELY count me OUT!

Leatherface1973
5:23pm, March 7, 2007
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I love that Rob is making a darker side of Halloween, but No Fucken original theme~! Thats fucked up~!The music is Michael Myers and i think that this movie wont work without it. I hope to god Rob has somthing to suprise everyone with and that is the same theme but a differnt rythum of it. And why the fuck is the mask so fucken dirty>?

Nick
5:25pm, March 7, 2007
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No Halloween theme. I think he's bluffing so he'll surprise us in theater. If not then he sucks ass.


5:26pm, March 7, 2007
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No fucken theme~!! How the fuck am i going to sleep at night knowing that the new halloween dosnt have the backbone of it! NO FUCKEN THEME~!!

rich
5:39pm, March 7, 2007
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if it has no halloween theme then its not a halloween movie.this sucks!

Sauron
6:01pm, March 7, 2007
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I'll leave the theme for later. How long have I been screaming that ROB concistantly says "things in Carpenter's original just didn't sit right with me....." How long have I been derided as a biased 'hater' who whines about my personal prejudices against all things ROB and just makes up stuff to support my supposedly weak, insecure arguements. So we have an uneducated, uncredentialed, pretend filmaker (curious how I've been screaming about MTV being responsible for ROB's career and hey they get the first advanced footage. Coincidence??) So ROB feels he's gonna straighten out certain "anomolies" from the original. Golly gee, maybe Sauron knows what the fuck he's talking about after all and all the sycophantic, fanboy ROB marionettes can shut the fuck up now......(first time I haven't censored my hate, this is gonna be a gd comedy and we're gettin the proof every day)

Sauron
6:18pm, March 7, 2007
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Let me soften that up a bit lest I offend anyone's right to participate in the free speech process. The more the information keeps coming the further the Zombians retreat into denial. Many still profess excitement and artistic vision when in reality every utterance from ROB and Co. proves more and more that the filmaker has no vision. So Laurie's a nonconformist closet Misfits fan (maybe we can get them for a cameo, oops I forgot, not cameos just Dee Wallace whatever the hell her name is) because you know what, Laurie doesn't fit in. She gets picked on, cast out, so hey she's gonna be a skater chick repressing her adolescent anger. COME THE FUCK ON.....JLC was a character you saw as multifacted because she was intelligent, resourceful, studious but not a geek. She wasnh't run-of-the-mill cannon fodder and she certainly didn't fight Mikey in the 500 relay.....Are Mane and Compton gonna use lightsabers? Is Myers gonna be a forceghost after this guiding young Scout through the inevitable sequels. So Loomis boots a car, what happened to "because that IS the law?????" LMAO at ROB's friends scurrying for cover as they come to the sad realization that their arguements are being blown away like chaff in the wind.....

Steven Millan
6:31pm, March 7, 2007
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It looks like Rob Zombie is completely making this "Halloween" his very own movie,complete without using the famous theme music(I'm hoping his film';s theme music is more reepier and chilling than the original's theme music),his use of cameoing genre veterans(actors and actresses),and making Laurie's and Loomis' characters more edgy and darker,as well as having the climatic showdown(between Laurie and Michael)at the backyard of Michael's house(in the empty swimming pool),for despite the changes(which makes this more of a complete Michael Myers re-birth and compainion piece to John Carpenter's original film than a faithful remake),I'm still heavily looking forward to this film,and I hope that it brings in more sequels that'll take both the new "halloween" storylines and the characters of Loomis,Laurie,and Michael in bigger(and better)directions(than the last five movies did).

Jeff
6:33pm, March 7, 2007
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I like that he's making it his own, but I really hope they keep the same theme music. That music is what makes a Halloween movie a Halloween movie.

Scott
6:34pm, March 7, 2007
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No theme. That's not good. They might as well not name it Halloween.

Amanda
6:37pm, March 7, 2007
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omg !! no halloween theme?!?! that sort of upsets me, i mean that is one of the elements of that film that makes it halloween. of course i will see this movie still but i am just a little upset about the theme not being used. hopefully tyler bates makes somthing fresh and creepy and very good compared to the orignal.

Troy
6:43pm, March 7, 2007
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No them Rob! Can you imagine jaws without the famous DA-da! Or Star wars without the famous music in the opening credits. Please--film company step in--if this is really the case

Ramone
6:51pm, March 7, 2007
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Jonny - your a tool. The movie is a tool. Sauron got it right.

Robert
6:54pm, March 7, 2007
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Wow you guys are complete idiots for not going to the theater JUST because the original theme is not in. Zombie is making this HIS OWN movie, plus the original theme won't fit in with this movie, it's all about tone. You guys are just fucktards and whiny bitches. "Ooooohhh the theme is not there! Count me out!" Pphh, I bet you've never seen the Halloween movies and are just jumping on the band wagon. I'll be seeing this opening day!

BenJ
6:59pm, March 7, 2007
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I can't believe some of you idiots are complaining about a little opening song :/ Yes its true, that theme fits well with John Carpenters Michael and as Rob as stated doesnt with his Version of Michael, get over it.

The Creeper
7:02pm, March 7, 2007
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Allright, now Rob is breaking my balls. He has to put the original theme in, that's just not cool. First it's Michael masterbating to dead animals and talking, now it's no original theme music, that's completely homosexual. That's now the only problem I have.

Frank Booth
7:17pm, March 7, 2007
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I cannot wait to see this suck on the big screen. it is going to be a cluster-fuck of epic proportions. I simply can't wait for it to hit and watch the mindless sycophants realize that they have been had. This guy's reach far exceeds his grasp. He talks like Scorcese but has barely surpassed Fred Olen Ray. Utterly hilarious. God I cannot wait. The comedy event of the year. bring it on, Rob. I hope he fills the movie with more of the pedestrian, brain numbing noise he filled sundry CDs with. what a fag.

Sauron
7:45pm, March 7, 2007
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Amen.....

Caboose
7:48pm, March 7, 2007
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You know, if he had used the original theme, the same people bitching about Zombie's decision to exclude it from the movie would only bitch about him INCLUDING the original theme in his remake.

Doug
8:15pm, March 7, 2007
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There's one more big suprise! To make sure the remake is not compared to the original, Rob Zombie has decided to have it not take place on Halloween at all, but rather on Easter!!!!

Kyle
8:17pm, March 7, 2007
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I cant watch the video =(, because its not available in canada! thats not fair, does anyone have the video on another website or something?!?!

john
8:49pm, March 7, 2007
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why do people care if there is no theme he is making it his own way they dont nothing from the original but the only im sad about is that he is not making another one i realy want him to but i hop he dont kill him off or somthing like that like he did with the devils rejects and i hope that somone els with take it over after he is done please make another one damension

Jonny
9:06pm, March 7, 2007
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RAMONE.Your a punk ass! You wanna go?? Bring it. It will be a pleasure shredding you on the boards. Don't bother kissin up to Sauron. He's atleast intelligent. Your not in the same league.....TOOL!! By the way, on a comment note, CABOOSE made a good point.

Amanda
9:34pm, March 7, 2007
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My gosh.. the stupid haters will bash the movie with every little information they get.... every time their is news they come out of their caves and try to bash the movie as much as possible... you guys are just making your selfs look stupid... the movie is already being made, their is NOTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT IT!.. so deal with it and act like you have a life.......and i hardly doubt this movie will suck.. rob has put time and effort in this movie to try not to make it a carbon copy of the original, but yet still making it a very good movie...he knows what he is doing..so you fat no life haters grow up and be mature. anyways i know all you guys who are bashing this movie will end up watching it anyways......

Doug
9:44pm, March 7, 2007
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Sorry Caboose. I didn't hear anyone complaining that he was using the theme before.

Sauron
9:53pm, March 7, 2007
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Should I start by correcting her spelling.....

Jonny
10:01pm, March 7, 2007
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DOUG. No offense. But I think what Caboose is saying is that if you hate the idea of the remake, RZ would most certainly get bashed for using the theme music. Either way, he's in a no win situation by that choice. Every picture, detail, decision about the movie will be bashed by those who hate it and are already decided, though they have not seen it. I do want to see this movie, as do all the people who are commenting here, good or bad.

Jack
10:03pm, March 7, 2007
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You dont have to like it, but you know your still going to see it no matter what you say. Im not a fan of the fact that he's getting rid of the theme, but im still going to see it.

Doug
10:13pm, March 7, 2007
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I know but he was saying that people would complain about the music if he used it. But I didn't hear anyone complain him using the music before this announcement that he wouldn't be using it. People should relax and not get so bent out of shape about it. I'm as big a Halloween fan as the next guy. I wasn't happy when they announced some of the changes, but we gotta realize that this is Zombie's vision. I'm sure he is gonna do whatever he can do to make the movie the best he can. If people start messing with his artistic vision, it could screw up the entire movie. So people should just relax and have an open-mind instead of complaining about it and ruining the experience for themselves.

GW
10:25pm, March 7, 2007
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Don't really care about the theme music - it was a product of its time and that time is past. But the changes to the story - the movie's going to be crap. As a filmmaker, Rob Zombie's overrated.

Nico Nice
11:03pm, March 7, 2007
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I've been following the devolpment of this movie since it was first announced that Zombie was going to write and direct. I was excited...I thought The Devil's Rejects was a kick ass movie! Now I'm not totally against what Zombie is doing with this movie, but everyone,Haters and Fans alike should look at what the title is for this movie..."ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN". It's not called "JOHN CARPENTER'S HALLOWEEN", that film was that film and it was a classic. I'm not saying one or the other that this take will reach the status of the original, but you can't judge a film based on rumors and heresey. I'm gonna see this movie on opening day with an open mind...yes I will miss the The Theme...but I'm curious to see what exactly Zombie has up his sleeve...and hey if it sucks harder than Tory Lane,so be it. If it's good even better. Either way all eyes are are on August 31 and Zombie.

DarkVengeance
11:40pm, March 7, 2007
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I was so excited about this film until now, I am so dissapointed with the fact that Zombie is taking out the theme, it just wont be Halloween!

Damian
12:02am, March 8, 2007
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I could care less about the theme song, I just want to see that video! "Won't work for anyone outside the US", what gives!?

Jonny
12:30am, March 8, 2007
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Well said DOUG and NICO NICE. I personaaly will miss not having that haunting piano melody of HALLOWEEN. But oh well, it wont be what kills the movie. It's too bad that you Canadian people can't view the footage from MTV. I thought it was really cool to see a glimpse of what's coming. I'm sure a trailer is not to far behind for all to view. Then the fur will really fly !!!

Ted
1:40am, March 8, 2007
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This is not a Halloween movie!!!!christ this is the worst decision he could have made by not having the CLASSIC HALLOWEEN THEME, no wonder when Rob spoken to John Carpenter recently that He said that John doesnt really give damn about this remake.

But73rs
1:49am, March 8, 2007
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Sauron, no one cares what you think. You suck balls. Your witty insights on movies are so great. Im glad your here to show me there are people who have nothing better to do with their time than try to debate something they have never seen. Id like to dip my balls on your face.

KDW
3:20am, March 8, 2007
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It's called Rob Zombie's Halloween cause it's a "REMAKE" that he is doing. It can't be called John Carpenter's Halloween, considering he has nothing to do with the remake. The movie itself YES, the theme YES, but remaking the film, NOPE. It's a Rob Zombie film now, not a John Carpenter film. I understand that part. I'm upset about the music, but I bet the theme will pop up somewhere in there. He is known for surprises and maybe he just want's to scare us.

Josh
4:33am, March 8, 2007
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I'm really open to this, actually. Let's see what Zombie has up his sleeve. Sure, the original theme was great and can never be duplicated, and it was already modified in nearly EVERY sequel, so why not give something new a try? It won't really seem like the old Halloween without it, sure, but this isn't the old Halloween in the first place. Kudos to Zombie for having the balls to finally scratch the old theme and give something new a try.

Beavis
5:54am, March 8, 2007
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Sure Zombie is an artistic film maker, intent on delivering an original and highkly visual take on the classic HalloweeN... but he can't be that misguided that he wouldn't include the theme, cos it just wouldn't be big bad Mikey up there on the screen without the original HalloweeN theme.

Remake
6:29am, March 8, 2007
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Now you know why they call them remakes, because they remake every single thing about the original film. So don't go expecting all the stuff from the original. I could care less about the music and more about how good the movie turns out to be. In my opinion it will be the third best halloween film. 1 and 2 were awsome, the rest suck!!!!!!! And one more thing, don't keep whining about how zombie is fucking up this film, he isn't. Take a look at ressurection, that film SUCKED ASS! Thank god they are doing a remake instead of continuing off the crappy story where it left off at.

Michael Myers's Overalls
7:18am, March 8, 2007
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So we've got a blood-splattered Jason Voorheestein in a movie that doesn't have the 'Halloween' theme? Yup, that sounds just about right for a modern-day rebirth of 'Halloween'. I wonder why the removal of the theme touched a nerve in people where the changing of Myers's character didn't? I'm more bothered about the demystifying of Myers than a 3-minute theme.

P.W.
7:50am, March 8, 2007
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Well after reading some of that, I am starting to soften my on my previous "benefit of the doubt" stance. I want very much to continue to wait and see, but this stuff is starting to bug me. Halloween movies without the theme is like Friday the 13th. without the cha-cha-cha stuff. Having Michael drive in the original was part of the fun. Again, it was not knowing what Michael was (human or not) when you left the theater that made it what it was. I want to like this movie but, damn! Michael and Laurie in an empty pool for the climax? Where can she run? Michael has a friend in Danny Tejo? Jonny I need help. Pull me back in!

Sure it's a remake, but...
8:17am, March 8, 2007
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There are things you change and things you don't. The history of Michael was never really explored, so that is open to interpretation. As are the driving forces behind Michael and Dr Loomis, but a HalloweeN remake without the theme, is like a Rocky film without the theme. I like Zombie’s work, but seriously, without the theme, he may as well start his own slasher series as a homeage to HalloweeN rather than attempt a remake, because in certain cases, such as this, the theme is pivotal character. There’s just no way it will feel like HalloweeN without it.

Ramone
10:15am, March 8, 2007
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Zombie is a puss... but at least he's not a total idiot. He took an idea - stole the characters and the best parts of the story - with the studio's blessing, and got to do whatever he damn well pleases. If you or I did that - we'd be sued by the studios. Jonny - come up for air from RZ's crotch. Maybe you'll think straight.

mike
11:45am, March 8, 2007
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HALLO-shit!!!!!!

Michael Myers's Overalls
12:25pm, March 8, 2007
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(P.W.: "Michael and Laurie in an empty pool for the climax? Where can she run?") I'm more interested in knowing how Myers gets up and wanders out of the empty swimming pool at the end of the movie without Laurie and Loomis spotting him (if the remake follows the basic idea of a Loomis/Myers confrontation like in the original). There's really nowhere for Mikey to go, unless Laurie and Loomis leave the scene, or the movie ends with some paramedics loading Myers's body onto a gurney, after which he sits up and...? I really can't imagine Dimension allowing this movie to end with a definitely-dead Myers lying at the bottom of a pool, can you?

Jonny
12:45pm, March 8, 2007
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P.W. Have you looked at the set footage on MTV? That looked great and might give you some hope. I'm a little dissapointed as well about the theme music, but in the end it wont change the film. RAMONE, I'll come up for air as soon as I'm done with your mother.

P.W.
1:35pm, March 8, 2007
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Thanks Jonny. I did check out the clips. While Michael looked cool, I was stunned to see him walking around in broad daylight. That isn't something I would like to see and I'm sure most would agree. Unless of course it's him staring at the girls, then disappearing ala the classic. I'm hopeful that it was just for MTV's sake. I am stuck on the theme thing however. He had better either put it back in or find something super creepy. Carpenters theme, while simple, was creepy. Also, it seems that he is going way to far with doing away with any sembelence of Michael possibly not being human, but rather a big, strong, angry mortal. I'm still taking a wait and see approach, but again, DAMN! I read an interview on Fangoria's site with William Forsyhte, Michael's step dad in the movie. He say's that the step dad really unloads on young Michael. Even calling him a bitch alot of the time and beating up his mom. With that said, you and Ramone really should try and say whats on your minds...LOL.

P.W.
1:46pm, March 8, 2007
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Sorry MMO, missed your post. As you know I have been saying for sometime that I will give Zombie the benefit of the doubt, but I am now very concerned with some of this stuff. I do keep an open mind and try to respect everyones opinion evn if I do not agree. I'm on board with alot of the stuff you said about the climax. I can't figure out how that's going to work. It's getting harder everyday to say I'm on the fence anymore.

Jonny
1:56pm, March 8, 2007
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P.W. Remember in the original, there's lot's of Michael wandering around in daylight watching Laurie at school and on the streets, peeking from behind the bushes and then the clothes line in her yard. I would assume that's what RZ will be doing. As far as the music goes, I'm sure there will be something creepy they will come up with, but no doubt, how can you top Carpenter's theme. It's so classic. The story with the abusive step father is RZ's vision. Not sure if it will work, but I'll give props for trying something new as opposed to remaking what can't be topped.I know it's not a popular opinion, but I just don't see this as a threat to the original. It stands on it's own, regardless of this movie. As for my new friend RAMONE, I don't know why he decided to single me out and insult me. I never said a thing about anybody but just adding my opinions. I got his attention somehow. It's up to him, I can be quite venomous if need be.

Amanda
2:04pm, March 8, 2007
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i am geting the feeling that the same person keeps posting on here with diferent names.....

daveberg
2:11pm, March 8, 2007
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No theme, huh. I'll get over it. It's all about change. It's all about offering us up something a little different. From the footage over at MTV, i can't grumble what so ever, Rob isn't doing anyone an injustice. He's taking something and breathing new life into it, whether it be with fetid breath or not is to be seen, but i'm keeping my fingers crossed and have high hopes that he will deliver, not because i'm a fan of his films, (Which i'm not) not because i'm a fan of Rob himself (I know little about him) just because i want it to work, selfish, but true. Anyhow, as i've said, i've seen no real deterant from me being excited about this movie yet, bit of a shame about the Halloween theme being dropped, but hey, if the new score works, then who are we to judge.

Tom44
3:11pm, March 8, 2007
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The original Halloween theme is what made the movie so good and to take that away from it!!! It just wouldnt be the same old Halloween, hearing that music come on at the beginning of the film sends chills up my spin and I know that Im there for a Halloween film!!!! Bad Call Rob Zombie...

superfry
3:29pm, March 8, 2007
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daveberg,get off you're high horse.You're "not a fan of zombie"?If this exact same movie were being made by an unknown you (and the others like you)know damn well you'd be bitching right along with the rest of us.

Jonny
3:29pm, March 8, 2007
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I just read an interesting piece from Danielle Harris (Annie) over at Fangoria about the movie. She really has some positive things to say and say's how scary the movie is, plus some other cool detail's, go check it out. www.fangoria.com (news section).

Kelsey
5:21pm, March 8, 2007
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I was pretty sceptical about this film before seeing the MTV footage. Now I am convinced that this is a real piece of dog shit. Zombie doesn't have an ounce of creativity, his first two films resembled TCM 1 & 2 to the degree that I can't finish them anymore. I always turn them off and put in the real deal because they just make me want to watch the TCM films. Myers was the Shape. He didn't have feelings or a dark past...that's the mystery and I for one don't want someone who has no business filling in those blanks.

Ramone
11:00pm, March 8, 2007
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Hey Jonny... That wasn't my mom... Your dad was wearing a wig again. bummer I didn't call you out for any other reason than than the fact I get sick of fanboys who watch 10 seconds of a movie and think they can draw a conclusion from it. I get sick of people that for whatever reason think that just because Rob Zombie is making it means it's gold. He hasn't made a decent movie yet and his musical talent curiously stopped after white zombie broke up. Now his lyrics are out of the backs of old Famous Monsters magazines.

Jonny
12:26am, March 9, 2007
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RAMONE. Are you kiddin me? First of all, Your drawing a conclusion that I'm a "fanboy" that has only seen 10 seconds of film ? How do you get that? Have you READ what I've posted the last few months?Ask your buddy Sauron about my views. We don't always agree, but I think he would atleast back me up as to what I think. I'll say this one last time. I'm a horror movie fan. I love the original Halloween, and have no affiliation with Rob Zombie. I don't give a shit what he's done. I'm wanting a good horror movie, MY OPINION. If my positive views bother you, be a man (or woman) and deal with it. If you don't agree with me, who gives a fuck ?? How does what I think affect you ? It doesn't. If it does, you got alot of other emotional issues to work out. WHO CARES? We all have different views and opinions about this movie. Because I don't see it your way gives you the right to insult me? Think about what your saying. If my opinion is that important to you, BRING IT ON. I'M READY TO FUCKIN GO!!! I'm tired of you people that just cant handle an opinion.

Shannon
12:50am, March 9, 2007
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Are they still filming out in Pasadena!?

Ramone
10:35am, March 9, 2007
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Your opinion is not important at all. I just like to remind fanboys where they stand on the foodchain. Ramone is now gone. His mission accomplished. Long live Ramone!

Jonny
12:11pm, March 9, 2007
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I'm not sure what you think you accomplished. Good riddance.

LLcruize
12:15pm, March 9, 2007
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I have been cautiously looking forward to this. I have known for a while that Zombie likes to take established characters and put his own spin on them. His script for a possible THE CROW sequel (The Crow: 2037) was OK, definitely not a Crow film. It was no surprise that he would take on Halloween. My only question is why? If you are going to change everything up, to include iconic music, characterizations, etc, why bother making it a Halloween movie? Why doesn't he just make his own film with original characters and settings? Easy, because it won't sell because his first two films have managed to only engage a small part of the movie viewers. By taking on this, he can capitalize on the name Halloween and make a slasher film he wants to. He is just borrowing the title and characters to utilize the built in audience. As he said in an interview that is seen on the "Halloween: 25 years of terror" DVD, fans of horror are going to show up in mass for these films, no matter what. He is banking on that bigtime.

Ramones Brother
1:49pm, March 9, 2007
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LL - you nailed it. He can't do anything on his own - so he'll make a career out of revisioning others ideas. Nothing like living off of other peoples creativity. Pathetic thing is that he'll make money doing it. What a sheister.

LLcruize
2:56pm, March 9, 2007
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I just seriously question the major changes being done here. Like the long despised H3: Season of the Witch, this movie needed to be done totally outside of the Halloween franchise. Turning Laurie strode into a reject, making Loomis a huckster, digging way too deep into the "why" of Meyers, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. The whole reason the original film worked is because Laurie Strode was not the normal slut/damsil in distress. Loomis was the guardian and historian of Michael's past and Michael was mostly left in shadow. I totally get what Zombie is doing here, totally (pun intended). The whole reason it says "Rob Zombie's Halloween" is to distinguish this from Carpenter's film. So that does mean the iconic theme, as much as it is beloved, has to not be used. But given all the reasons above, as well as Zombie certainly knowing ANY change he makes that is drastic will alienate a large portion of the core fan base, it still begs to ask why not just make a slasher film totally independent of the Halloween franchise so he is truly free to be creative and artistic without any need to acknowledge any preconceptions or mythos from an established work.

Bob
3:20pm, March 9, 2007
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I enjoyed both Corpses & Rejects. Although, to be honest, it felt as if Corpses (yes, Corpses) was influenced by TCM-2 (the original sequel, not the new one..) the colorful lighting, Sherrif tracking the family down, the whole comical fun-house feel (re-watch them & you'll see what Im saying). - and Rejects (follow me here) felt alot like the original TCM... the gritty feel, relentless violence... Im not picking on Rob, like I said, i enjoyed both his films, but I couldn't help but notice the similarities. Either way, were all (at least ALOT of us) a little distraugt that Zombie feels he can make the most beloved, untouchable horror film of all time 'better'. No? he never said he was going to make it better? Well, then why would he (of all people) want to tread in those waters? Why re-imagine or re-interpret something so awesome & original? We'll all be there when the lights go down, I just hope he knows what he's doing.

Ramones Grandmomma
3:45pm, March 9, 2007
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Reading Bob's post made me realize - maybe Zombie is the ultimate fanboy. Maybe he says" Im going to take this from this and this from this and it's going to be awsome man - right on." Maybe he just never really grew up from his teenage years jerkin to a Fango magazine. He's the ultimate fanboy BECAUSE he has a name and some creative license. He's just the ultimate douchebag because in his mind - he thinks he's better than the franchise.

Ramones Grandmomma
3:48pm, March 9, 2007
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And one other thing - why did somebody HAVE to teach MM to be able to drive? Thats the dumbest supposition I have ever heard. Watch the news - 5 year olds are taking driving cars. To add some sort of stupid logic to the character is freaking ridiculous.

daveberg
4:35am, March 10, 2007
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[quote] daveberg,get off you're high horse.You're "not a fan of zombie"?If this exact same movie were being made by an unknown you (and the others like you)know damn well you'd be bitching right along with the rest of us. [/quote]..................superfry, i know nothing about Rob Zombie, apart from he was part of some Rock band? and he made a few films, only one of which i've seen 'Devils Rejects' so in essence, there is no high horse to get off of, i could care less who is directing this film, so long as they take it in the right direction, why can't you guys try being positive once in a while, being negative surely is a waste of time. Keep an open mind and wait untill the production airs around the globe.

Dark Vengeance
4:00pm, March 10, 2007
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At this point its touch and go, Im just going to wait til' I see a trailer or something then to just sit here and bitch . Atleast we most likely will have the Carpenter theme back, even though most of you seem not to care ( how can you not have Michael Myers without his theme?) that shit is just wrong. I also dont see why some of you are bickering and cursing at each other at a place for us to discuss our opinions on news, not tell other people their opinions are wrong. It seems more childish every time I get on here to read your opinions.

Sauron
10:28pm, March 10, 2007
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Pretty much that nails it on the head. ROB has no right or ability to reimagine things that are beyond his very limited filmaking skills. Let's be honest here, if ROB were to plug in the spaces on 'Stairway to Heaven' with lyrics that he felt delved into the mythos of that song, wouldn't it be the same as reimagining the greatest horror film in modern history. Imagine if ROB woke up tomorrow and said "hey, Neil Peart didn't really explain a lot of what Tom Sawyer really is so maybe I should attach myself to a reimagining of that creative process....." and so on and so on. ROB, Halloween is NOT YOUR movie. Your sad attempts to demonstrate your lack of film school education are tramping all over the masterpiece that you grew up claiming to love. Have you forgotten that when initially approached with this idea you were adamently opposed to it. What did Malek promise you in exchange for raping a masterpiece with your legions of 'friends' and MTV's exclusive backing.....

infinite latex
1:35pm, March 11, 2007
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so...michael gets more than one kill as a junior? again, wtf? Rob is reading way too much into something that should never be as complex as it has become. Halloween was a classic, but it was a bloodless slasher and very vague. Nobody knew Laurie was going to be Michael's sister until a desperate(?) plot twist in halloween II. Nobody really got an explanation as to why he targeted Laurie or her friends. And don't say Laurie reminded him of Judith, because Judith was promiscuous whereas Laurie was a goodie-goodie...(Oh yeah, she did smoke some pot but that's about it)... Rob, you're gonna need two hours alone just so everybody in Hollyweird can get in a scene or two...who the hell cares whether or not someone was sympathetic of little mikey myers? someone said it wouldn't be realistic for someone to go through their whole life as a mute (not a deaf one) just someone who had nothing to say. Well, if little mikey or adult mikey has anything to say, it can be said with a well placed kitchen knife if you know what i mean. oh well...still gonna see it though...and who knows, i might even like it...

decker213
2:38am, March 19, 2007
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I am personaly OK with Rob doing this thing with this film, i loved the carpenter version, but lets face it: AFTER THE FIRST ONE, THEY ALL SUCKED! that means H20 too! so don't go complaining about his take on it, then go watch it and secertly like the flick, cuz chances are it might be good.

j 2 the ez-h
12:28pm, March 19, 2007
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i will have to disagree with you decker 213 because the other movies did not suck but i will say this, the new one is probably going to be the HOTTEST! Im out!!!!!!

theniceman
8:35am, March 26, 2007
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I like rob, robs doing his thing. Hes getting his thing on with this movie, changing some things around, but i did not like the fact about droppping th theme.


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