bloody disgusting for starters you are late with your news/rumors, only about a week or so. next, you are kissing ass like fangoria is kissing ass. fangoria needs to kiss ass to stay on rob's good side, promote the film, and sell magazines. but you? you are kissing ass to try and make friends with rob because you need some credibility. have a backbone and take a pulse of horror fans, especially this movie.....Rob Zombie's halloween, based on the early script reviews, casting sheet, and posts by rob himself, well the movie misses the mark. zombie's vision sucks! he has no clue how to do something without trash and shock value.

I didnt say anything positive Jeff, I said I was INDIFFERENT - did you not see that? it's impossible to judge a film by its script, THE WICKER MAN is a perfect example. That script was astounding and look at what a piece of shite it ended up being. The script review is in fact an early draft, so why would you even take it seriously? I can go on and on and give you about 50 examples of scripts that changed through shoot so in my opinion it's unfair to judge the final film based on the draft. And funny enough the AICN review was VERY misleading, have you read the script? No you havent. You're just some fan boy who does nothing but jump on our forums and bitch and complain about every single film announced. Do you even like horror films? Do you even want to see any made? Just sit backk and flippin relax. Judge the movie when you see it, if it sucks, well it sucks, but to jump to conclusions now is just plain silly. And just to clarify we do NOT have an opinion on the script, it's too early to tell. I gotta run, got some ass kissing to do...

I read the review of the screamplay and I have to say I agree with people that say it misses the mark!

Well Mr D, I have to disagree with this whole article. Rob Zombie is being the biggest asshole in regards to this whole thing, and also being a hypocrit. He can't handle the situation he brought upon him self and he is lashing out at the Halloween fans as if they don't fucking matter. This guy becomes more of a douche every day. And that's saying something considering I think the guy is cool as shit, but am really offended by the way he is treating this whole subject. This is clearly not a remake, but more of a new story with the same premire and title, for this he will take shit and he obviously can't take it because he is lashing out at the fans, this isnt even the first time he's done so with this project. But I knew this would happen, he cast his wife in the movie soley because it's his wife, obviously he did that with about 75% of the cast. This is so not Halloween and that script review from AICN I can gurentee is the script he is going with, the whole masterbating animal shit will be there, Myers talking both as a kid and adult and the whole fucking shit with needing certain mask to describe feelings. What a crock of shit man, even if he eliminates all of this bullshit it's still how he feels about the project and it will show in the final product. So it's either he's trying way too hard to find something that isn't there or is trying even harder not to make this a factory job. Either way, the only people voicing there opinions is the Halloween fans and this fucking guy is throwing shit at them as if they don't fucking matter. Suck my balls Rob and you best not make this a 70's style movie, better show some fucking range this time around you bastard. I cant stand that kind of disrespect

Yo Jeff, bitch all you want, you know you're gonna cough up the money to see it opening day so do yourself a favour and shut your mouth... Otherwise you'll just make yourself look even more silly than you already have. The movie is quite a long way away and already we've had bitch after bitch after bitch claiming why the movie is going to suck and be a disaster. It really is quite pathetic and starting to wear very thin and get on alot of peoples nerves. You see its very simple, if you think it's gonna be so bad shut the fuck up and don't watch it. Fact of the matter is if this movie is the best horror movie to come along in years you're still gonna whine and moan, Why? Because you dislike it already and know absolutely fuck all about it, as it isn't even made yet. So to ALL posters feel free to share your oppinion by all means but dont bitch about something you know nothing about!

it's good to hear your view jeff, im sure you thought real hard about what you were going to type while you were flipping over to AICN to see if they broke any news on the transformers movie. don't blame B-D for kissing ass just because your Orlando Bloom fansite got no hits.

Jeff's idea of a good horror flick is Casper the Friendly ghost. He's not even a fan boy. Its sad to see people talk out their ass about stuff they don't know. kissing ass? that makes me laugh. BD's job is to give the masses the outlook and up to date news about all things horror. So what if they show alittle more passion for one film and not the other, they can have opinions too. Its unfortunate that Jeff's feeble mind can't take a jounalistic point of view. When it comes to Rob, BD has done their job and has done it well. The fed us the latest horror information and told everyone the truth to the best of their ability. It may come late but no site is perfect. Drafts are exactly what they are....drafts. They are going to go through tweeks and changes and for someone to base an opinion on an ever changing idea before its concrete is pretty stupid. Great you think Rob's vision sucks, thats your opinion. And here is my opinion...Jeff you are an idiot.

Much respect to Jasonives1986 to giving reasons why he doesnt like it instead of just hating to hate.

zombie hope you rewrite your script withouth the strippers, trashy sister, groping michael, masterbation, etc....otherwise this movie seems like it will suck. do us a favor and take away the title halloween and the main characters and label it as devil rejects part 2.

I love how when a review is negative (AICN) it's automatically slanted but anything positive is auitomatically deemed credible. Then I further love how "Rob" needs to explain himself and then give us the "I don't live my life caring what others think and neither should you" sermon but then PROCEEDS to rewrite the script (always a good sign) and possibly scrap the release date (which probably IS a good idea). If you don't care what others think, don't rewrite the script. So no matter how the horror aficianado sites try to gloss this here's the probable reality: Industry AND fan reaction, outside of any blood and guts site probably a little more than normal predispensed to coddling Mr. Zombie's creative visions, has been EXTREMELY OVERWHELMINGLY negative. If you are sick of hearing from me on these sites look it up for yourself, the fans speak for themselves and apparently things aren't all rosey in Haverhill, I mean Haddonfield. I gotta believe (though I will admit I'm hardly informed to the nines on this) that the crap hit the fan and the curators of the franchise not named "Rob" want a rewrite because the 'beatin off to dead Nebraska squirrels isn't exactly flattering to Carpenter's original. I mean, come on, did you need me to tell you that. This might also explain "Rob"'s pissy response to this because, again, I gotta believe if everything were rosey in Halloweenland, Zombie wouldn't even need to issue a response to all of these 'rumors.' Common sense............Oh well, I digress. Halloween version 1.5 here we come!

lol, rob zombie is an ass. "youre not allowed to judge my movie because you have no idea how its going to be". Well hack zombie, we actually DO know what its going to be like. We've all seen the masterpiece Halloween tons of times, and all we have to do is plug in some of you're awesome casting (including sheri moons asscrack for some reason),, and imagine some of you're witty, captivating dialog (such as "tutti fucking fruity") and we already have a good picture to go by. On top of this, we have the "early" draft review in which myers talks, jerks off, and wears a mask to take a shit,, and were all just suppose to sit back quietly and think "well lets wait till we see it on screen before we judge"...uhhh no asshole. We can handle some shitty sequels, but to bear the original title "Halloween", thats a big f'n deal to many, and it comes with ALOT of responsibility. Whether the review was opinionated or not, whether it was an early draft or not, for someone at the helm of the great Halloween to have actually penned some of those god awful ideas (at least a dozen), means that the movie, as many expected, will probably end up being a steaming pile of zombie shit. please prove us wrong you talentless asshole!! ok im done now

I'll be short. If the movie is to get out on time there aren't going to be a lot of significant script alterations. So what you see is what you get and the script is out there for all to see. Hiding behind the final product is more than the script is a little immature because we are quoting based on things that have come out of "Rob's" mouth. Slamming other opinions that don't agree with yours shows an alarming amount of immaturity and disrespect. Not all horror fans are going to blindly acquiesce to whatever happens to be hip on myspace these days. There are many different styles of horror as there are opinions. A well thought out opinion being told to STFU shows exactly what's wrong here. And yes, I think "Rob" s in over his head here and is lashing out because doom is on the horizon. If its any consolation, controversy sells tickets.

As I just said this I love the born-to-kill post because that just about sums it up better than any of my dissertations.

here's a positive spin. rob rewrites the movie drastically and the movie is released not in august but in late october. actually let's delay it a little longer so rob can go to film school and learn how broaden his skills beyond hillbilly gore. i hope he has some respect for the original, and i would like to see him come from normal parents and a normal upbringing.

I'm only half-assed following this Halloween story but I had to respond to this. This shit is to funny...seriously. Before anyone starts pointing at me and moaning while screaming "kneejerk!" let me explain. Everyone has/forms a gut opinion when they read a headline proclaiming a remake of one of their beloved films. Hell, I have em still. But I do tend to stop and read the article and research a bit to discover more. If I get disgusted with I find I just simply wait and watch it (usually via download or DVD). I find a lot of gems this way and wind up buying DVDs I never thought I would. Point is...give the film a chance before ripping an unseen film apart. You aren't doing yourself a favor or the genre you claim to love. If all these reports are to be believed then Rob is getting bombarded for requests for interviews, answers, Information, and being peppered with the film's fans opinions. No offense but I would be a wee bit bitchy myself in that situation. Screw the circus surrounding this film. It seems the fans want this film to fail before the first frame is shot anyway.

what really sucks is that the big movie studios generally don't give a shit about horror movies and only care about the $$$. The only people who really do care are usually the filmmaker and the fans. and if the filmmaker is lost (maybe rob is or maybe he isnt) well he should either 1) thank the fans for voicing their opinions and reassure them that he shares the passion and will take their criticism into consideration. or 2) ignore the criticism and try to make a great movie. By no means should he tell fans to shut up and watch the movie before you judge,, thats something an immature, amateur like uwe boll would do.

I am a HUGE fan of the original Halloween. I am a little nervous about how it will turn out, but at the same time, a little excited about the possibilities. I will definatley see it. I hope I love it. If it's bad, then so what, I always got the original. Also realize this is not the only horror classic that will be remade. How long will it be before The Exorcist or maybe even Jaws is done. Psycho already happend, Friday the 13th is on it's way. It's a sign of the times people, get used to it. I say WAIT BEFORE YOU HATE.This movie might just surprise you...........

So, "after the online fiasco, shock-rocker Rob Zombie is going back to the script and doing more re-writes", eh? That's kind of ironic, after Mr. Z stated "Really who gives a fuck what someone else thinks?". Clearly somebody gave a f**k about what people on AICN thought - or are we to assume that these rewrites and shooting delays would have been happening even if the AICN feedback had been overwhelmingly positive? The script reviewed on AICN may very well have been an early draft, and the completed movie could eventually bear very little resemblance to it when it hits cinemas... But I still find myself asking: Why was that early draft seriously considered as a draft in the first place? Did the people making the movie really think the concepts in that draft were okay in some respects? Now *that* worries me. Considering that Mr. Z counts himself as a fan of the original 'Halloween', I'm amazed at how he missed the bleedin' obvious in the movie's premise: On the one night of the year when the land of the dead intersects with the land of the living, and goblins and witches roam the Earth, a supernatural bogeyman stalks a quiet American town. Supernatural bogeymen don't need to have a damaged childhood, y'hear? Changing Myers from an inexplicable force to a generic, hulking serial killer who wears a "gotta take a sh*t" mask in order to take a sh*t (and, presumably, a "gotta eat dinner" mask with a widened mouth to accommodate the eating utensil of his choice), etc., misses the whole point, I think. Having said all this, I'll try to keep an open mind and will judge the movie when I see it, but I'm not overly optimistic, to be honest.

The mere fact that there are heated post in both directions tells you just how important Halloween (the original)is to us. The beauty of it all is that we will still have the classic if Zombie screws this up. While I agree that he needs to stay away from humanizing Michael (please don't let him speak or masturbate), or for that matter make his family trashy, I will wait until the finished product. The internet is filled with tons of phony info. Just keep Michael a "boogeyman" and not a hulking man from a dysfuntional family, Rob! Humanizing him is what everyone is pissed about, period! Michael is "the shape" not the pissed off disgruntled kid from the dirty house down the road.

Lindy Booth is pretty much the most annoying part of every film she has appeared in. I hope to christ that remains a rumor, the cast is annoying enough (too "Genre 'fave' heavy" for my taste)

If youre going to bash, please do so with proper etiquette. I dont want to see slander or mean posts without any reasons why theyre angry. Im really getting sick of all of the internet dorks screaming and yelling for no reason and without evidence. Keep it clean guys or Ill report you to the mods.

This cracks me up... From JasonLives1986: <<Suck my balls Rob and you best not make this a 70's style movie>> Um, "Halloween" came out in '78, thus making it a '70s-style movie. Dumbass. Stick to the '80s, junior.

All the actresses that have been rumored to play Laurie are pretty weak. They need a girl like Anne Hathaway, Sophia Bush, or Jessica Biel, taller girls who look good, look smart, can act, and dont look like bimbo whores. Also why wasn't Rob offered the Friday The 13th remake. That movie seems more up his alley. Halloween needs to be taken more seriously than the shit I read that he has already written. And casting a 6'5 280 dude to play The Shape is bad business. I would notice a guy that big stalking people if I was a cop. I would also notice a guy that big if he were stalking me. And if the cops are on the look out for a dangerous Michael Myers who has escaped the sanitarium, I'm sure they'd easily find a guy that big. Zombie needs to rework this. Don't explain too much. Just remake the movie and retain it's creepiness and simplicity. Once you explain Michael away, it gets weak. Thorn anyone?

Can't we all just get along? Stop nitpicking.

Thanks for posting all of this. Since the most vocal detractors of the project have proven themselves easily lead around by the balls by what someone says on the internet, perhaps a level-headed update regarding the production and the various rumors surrounding it will calm some of them down a bit. Not that it matters anyway, since there isn't one person on Earth passionate enough to post on the net about this film who won't be there opening night, eight bucks in hand.

You know, I really don't know what to think. I agree with the guy below that said that it's the humanizing of Myers that is pissing people off. That and they shoulda cast like Rowan Atkinson as Michael. OK, maybe not Rowan Atkinson, but somebody of that build beacause that makes him more horrific than a mass of a man like Tyler Mane (who is certainly scary, but not like friggin' Mr. Bean would be if he could do what Michael Myers does). Anyway, the only think I can say favorable about his switching of the story is that it's not a shot-4-shot remake like Psycho was (what a friggin' discrace that was to Hitchcock). But if the movie turns out to be horrible, than Zombie's not just taking a crap on fans and the legacy of Halloween, he's taking a crap on the legacy of John Carpentar . . . and that is just not cool.

let's just sit back not say a odman thign and wait for what Rob zombie has to give us.

I think we got all the update we need by "Rob's" newest statement (tirade) Script rewrites are NEVER a good sign no matter how everyone tries to spin it. The script is what it is and it is out there for all to see, so any sad attempts to say that we're getting in a snit about something that hasn't even been made yet is a little deceiving. Sheri Moon as a stripper/abusive/ misogynic/dysfunctional mother. Oh, I'm sorry I must be missing something there that means I'm not a fan. Oh, and she's an employee of the 'Rabbit in Red Lounge' so that means this is an-oh-so-cool shout out to the original that only the hardcore horror maestros such as Zombie can enjoy. PUH_LEEZE. Anyway GTW gotta keep my b#lls from being led around.....

Wow...I think everyone needs to take a fuckin' chill pill. I look at it this way. Is bitching about the movie going to stop it from being made? No, and if it did, would you really want it to not be made? All this bitching is going to do is add a lot of unneeded pressure and stress on Zombie's part which is going to damage the product as a whole. So even if it was going to be a decent send up, all this negative energy and cynisism is going to hurt the film, and if it does suck, it's not going to be the first time someone has fucked up a remake. So relax, let it happen, let Rob take his time and do a good job and railroad him afterward if it blows.

wow i actually like rob's music and thought he would do a remake for halloween some justice. but rob, where did you come up with a stripper mom for michael, an abusive stepfather, a slutty sister, and michael masturbating to dead animal pics and tape recordings? and groping/molesting judith after he stabs her? it sounds very much like you are trying to shock us into being horrified. remember the original was low key and very suspenseful, nothing over the top like what you have in mind. i think i will wait for dvd on this one.

Here come the excuses.....

hi i am a dipshit...you didn't like my masterbating to polaroid ideas, or mommy being a happy ending stripper, or sissy fucking around with abusive boyfriend, so now i will go back to the drawing board and think of something else. wait, i only have TCM homage ideas in my trailer trash brain, nothing else. at least my asskissing zombie allegiance will see this film for the one or two weekends it is out.

now remember, he is a self professed fan, expert, historian of horror films. he actually thought he was carrying the torch by making this piece of garbage? this movie sounds like beverly hillbillies, or haddonfield hillbillies. mom, dad, is that a U-haul truck that just pulled up next door?

This movie is going to suck ass and whoever goes to watch this is fucking retarded, go suck a fat one!!!

WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ???? Almost every comment here is like reading unintelligent 2 year old's. "If you see this movie, your retarded"? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDIN ME ?? I think the inbred trailer trash you all hate about in the movie is to close to home for most of you.Stay off the article comments if you don't have any REAL input to say. I don't care if you hate the idea of Rob Zombies script, but say something that can be discussed in a conversation. All we have here is insults that are so fucking stupid. I got an idea ? How bout wait for it to come out before you judge it? Wow!! Crazy, huh ?

I must say that the recent trend of movie remakes have left me pretty disappointed for the most part with very fiew exceptions. A lot of movies that I like have been done pretty poorly with very little redeeming value. But when I found out about a Halloween remake, I was a little more than disappointed about the news. That is until I heard that Rob Zombie was slated to direct it. I mean I'm not holding my breath that it will satisfy, but with him behind the wheel, I think it has a sporting chance. People have been quick to judge this project, but as the more and more news comes out, it seems that the movie just sounds better and better. If anything, look at the names that he has cast already. Dee Wallace Stone, Ken Foree, but most of all, Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis! That alone has garenteed my but in a seat to see this one. Good or bad, If there is one remake to go check out it is this one. I just heard he was playing Loomis through a friend so if I am wrong on that, please kindly let me know.

My immediate apologies for the length of this post concerning this latest article concerning the various rumors circulating on the state of this disaster..... I have lots of ideas we can discuss in calm, dignified, distinguished and intellectual manner whilst sipping a little of the old earl grey, since this what you have requested: 1) Rob Zombie has NO formal training as a writer or filmaker yet is slated to direct the remake of one of the seminal horror films in history. Is this on merit or "celebrity" status 2) Mr. Zombie's said script has been verified and reviewed by some oif the most recognized movie sites on the net that don't pander strictly to horror and given the appropriate a@s-bashing it so richly deserves 3) Mr. Zombie himself has demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the machinations of Carpeneter's masterpiece and has recently taken to berating anyone who doesn't agree with his vision 4) Mr. Zombie is further rumorred to be in the process of script revision (always a sign of uncompromising artistic sensibility) after said 'moron, trailer-trash neophytes' have ripped into his little artistic turdling 5) Mr. Zombie has induced the minds of innocent myspacers to believe that no one is allowed to criticize his artistic vision because even though the script is out for all to see, hey the movie's going to be a completely different thing (I wonder if that's the way things are 'REALLY' done in hollywood, and if so, would Mssr. McDowell have attached his name to such unusual conditions) Once you complete your book report for next week's presentation of the psychological ramificatrions of sympathetic tendancies for denziens of the american midwest planned housing communities then you can seriously try to make a case for your seriously adolescent diluted vision. Oh, I'm sorry, you thought you had a valid point there.....

Just to be clear Mr. Farley my previous post was NOT directed at you. Your point had at least some cohesive validity

I'm the guy that wrote "humanizing Michael" is what is pissing everyone off in an earlier post. Thanks for the props norman bates. Again I will take a wait and see attitude, but stick to my guns with the alleged trashy family stuff. Just steer clear of that and do not explain how Michael became what he became. FLASH...The following is what made your head scratch in the original. We all left the theater (if your old like me anyway) thinking to yourself...I still don't know if that killer was human, he just would not go down! (cool, right?) That's what I remember and loved the most about the Carpenter classic. Note to Zombie, please adjust, IF all of the internet stuff is acurate. If I'm wrong, someone please post a response. I can take it.

Since you wanted a response and I apparently like to hear myself take here goes: Your point is well made and pretty much right on target. However whereas you have made your point in a civilized, neutral tone I cannot. Zombie is, and for the record always has been, a brainless dip$%it with limited creative potential. Compounded with the fact that the only reason he got this gig is because Malek Akkad is so desperate for street cred in the horror community that he'll bow down and orally pleasure Mr. Zombie at every opportune moment in hopes that the teenybopper, myspace crowd will give him some ounce of profitability. The only way to do this, apparently is to hand the keys to the kingdom off to a no-talent hack with zero credibilty as a filmaker. So yes, I am angry. And yes, this whole calamity is a spit in the face to one of the greatest stories in the history of horror cinema. But that's all right, because we lowly fans don't "really" know how the final product is going to come out so we should just shut our mouths and not care what anyone thinks about.........

Sauron, I wouldn't say that I'm neutral, as I too am not into the whole re-imagining or re-make, or whatever spin Zombie is placing on this movie. I would rather he made a Halloween 9, (following up on the last crappy Busta Ryhme kung fu garbage)and not try to re-imagine a classic. He could have fitfy-cent star. I'm just kidding of course! Personally I think it's sad that Holywood can't find decent enough writers anymore to come up with something original. Note: Did you see how they screwed up the Carpenter classic, Precinct 13. Now they're also going to screw-up Friday the 13th. At this rate we will probably see a re-make of Smokey and the Bandit. I must be honest, I love horror, but have never seen a Rob Zombie movie. I do have them on my Netflix list, just so I can see if he is a butt-head like some have noted.

First of all I think....no wait I know I'm repeating something that has already been said before, but no one knows if this movie is going to suck or not. I like Rob Zombie's movies, but I'm not a Rob Zombie ass kisser like some, but also not out to destroy his imagine because his ideas on the new Halloween movie doesn't make u happy. If the movie sucks, and pretty much ends up like every halloween movie after part 2 then he will destroy his own imagine. I think Rob Zombie said it best, when it comes out either go and see it or not, then decide for yourself. Hell I hate Star Wars, I hate Spiderman, I definitely hate the Titanic, but all these movies sure as hell made millions, not every movie is going to be what you want it to be, if it was meant to be that way then u, i, joe blow would be a movie director, and making millions, go see it or don't! Who gives a shit what anyone says, stop letting people run your lives, because they say go see it, or don't go see it, decide for yourself! DAMN get a life, grow up or do something useful for yourself besides jerking off to internet rumors.