Fox News has some seriously explaining to do- especially since they're projecting their unwanted opinion on the horror genre to the sheep of the Nation. Click here to watch a six-minute (one-sided) argument, which will reveal Fox's opinion on horror films. This video makes me think that they don't want us to see The Hills Have Eyes 2 or 28 Weeks Later because if they think Lionsgate (this is how it's spelled morons) is evil, why should they get a hall pass? It's quite obvious the people being interviewed are being led on, but whatever, our genre is getting press. My only question is... Fox releases horror films, why aren't they under fire in this segment? Horror lives and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. Comment inside! Opinions wanted!
These people don't know shit. The only reason they are complaining is because they are a bunch of pussies who sleep with a night light on. None of them have the balls to understand the genre for what it is... he calls these films garbage, talks crap on the makers of horror movies... I can't wait to see him try to do something about it, because America is in love with horror and that's the way it is, he can go back to watching his disney films as long as he leaves us all ALONE!
Quit bitching people. Finally some controversy! Finally someone's making getting away with stuff fun again! No one has cared or even batted an eye for so long....come on people, this just makes it more fun! Remember...a mostly inept movie like Silent Night Deadly Night would be completely forgotten today were it not for a group of moron activists elevating it to eternal notoriety and classic status. I live for this.
Why is Bill O'Reilly such an intolerable ass clown?
He thinks that horror films are garbage, yet all that spews forth from his mouth is just that, garbage.
He should really just crawl into a hole and die, because he's not worth much else.
wow...i dont even know where to start, there were so many things wrong with everything stated there it makes my head want to explode. first lets start with bill o'riley, hes a pile end of story, second lets move onto this psychotherapist, she says that people that view these movies want to emulate the killer and want to be the killer? i think not, horror movies are pure entertainment, the more gore the more violence the more entertainment.people that view these movies love the horror genre because they grew up on horror. people said the same thing with the school shootings blaming video games and marilyn manson ive been playing video games while listening to marilyn manson since 5th grade and watching horror since 3rd grade...damn i should be in jail for murdering about 500 people right? lastly Lionsgate,bloody-disgusting, fangoria, and every horror company and director out are my heros. I love checking up on the newest news about what movies are coming out and seeing new and inovative horror movies (i am going to school to become a special fx make up artist lets hope horror stays a big buisness :) ) The directors and companies are devoted and love the horror genre they care nothing about the money, watch the making of saw on the uncut saw dvd they had a great idea and it came to life they cared nothing about money and most of them dont, these people are passionate and do what they love, nothing else can be said about that. Thank you Bloody-disgusting for keeping me updated with all the newest news and newest movies, thank you to every horror director and lionsgate and the many great companies that put out these movies i love what horror has become. lastly, sorry for the length but, thanks to Bill O'Riley and his guests for continuing to be the biggest piles of shit on television.
They're implying that the horror fans go to see people tortured. HOWEVER we simply see the torture premise as great potential for a good story. I don't love the Saw movies because of the blood, I love it because of the excellent story telling in a dark setting. The blood is just a detail.
WTF? Are horror movies supposed to be safe? Are they supposed to comfort you and keep you warm at night? Fuck no. Horror are horror movies because the stir up emotions. To stir up controversy. Does anyone remember the scene in Frankenstein when he throws the little girl in the water. People back then though that was too graphic. Times have changed. And horror is evolving. I can't think of any other genre where your emotions are put to the test more then the horror genre. I will admit that there is "garbage" out there. But it's only garbage because it just plain sucks on every level, from plot to acting. Let them riot. Let them bash the movies. Let them rally as many people as the want to their sad cause. Because they more the scream, the more they object, the stronger this great genre will become. It lifts the veil of safe horror. It forces Directors and others alike to push the limits, to break the boundaries. This is what horror is supposed to be. So let them whine. Sooner or later they will realize that they only hurt their own cause.
i'm not what you would call a fan of the horror genre but i understand it. It is enertainment but its also and art form. Shows the darker side of humanity in us all. But do we act on these feelings that o'reilly and his DR. say we have? No we know the difference. O'reilly is a fucking puppet for the corporate dicatators of this country and for 1 should not have his own special. 2 he has the stupidest topics. they make no sense and make the american ppl think they have no choice but to agree with him. I say this b/c i am into politics and frequently tune into what bullshit he has to say. But anyways... Halloween is a horror celebration... whats next halloween getting banned b/c o'reilly says that only killers dress up for halloween?... the guy is a fucking dirt bag... he picka topics he has no knowledge of... if you want another interview with him... no pertaining to horror movies then email me and i'll show you how ignorant this POS is. don't even give ur attention to this.. you'll be better off.
I'm really glad I saw this right before I went to sleep because now I'm all worked up again. Bill O'Reilly is one of the people/things that is wrong with America today. I find it quite hilarious that he can sit there and abuse the horror genre like that without having even seen any of these movies. At least try and show some semblance of knowledge about the topic you're speaking on. Also, instead of "investigating" this, how about you investigate Mark Foley or Dennis Haestert instead?
i agree with you all this guy is a dick and lots of peole who love horror movies including me. thats why this movie and the past week there has been a horror movie at no 1 at the box office im so angy at this dude but thing is all them people saying hit about saw and horror movies are dicks and no nothing about these movies. us the fans love the story the gore the horror movies like this will keep on getting made people like eli roth, rob zombie etc. and i hope they do all of them people can go to hell and lets keep suporting movies like these and keep them alive and forget about bill the dickhead cause this horror will never die and we will never stop going to see these movies.
oh my god, i thought we were in truble here in italy, but u have several assholes in us too.
I'm a little bit scared it reminds me to unoversall war during the end of 90s. Remember what they said after the bride of chucky? Universal was against horror movies. Well hope fox won't do the same, can't wait for avp or 28 weekslater and hills have eyes 2, and i don't wanna see them softer!
I think you guys are seeing the bigger picture here. People like Bill O'Reilly DO have the power to do something about it, I am 37 and remember the video nasties debacle over here in the UK very well, these people have the power to influence America, America has one of the largest populations in the world and yet it's people have the smallest % of passports, most people in the bible belt will never leave their hometown let alone travel the world, it's a sad fact that the major American news networks dont actually tell you the news, they try to keep America scared of what is not only outside their homes but outside od their country too, Fox news is an extremely right wing corporation that wields a lot of power and influence and belive me if they get behind this 'anti horror movie' stance they could make a difference, the MPAA may be a seperate body but if you saw the documentary @this film is not yest rated' you would understand how many people have them in their pockets...the bottom line is , myself and 1000 of other people in the UK were considered criminals for years and faced jail and prosecution for owing films such as Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Last House On The Left...movies that are considered classics, and as the extreme religious right gets ever more a grip on america I think some of you people may be in for a shock, I make my living selling horror t shirts I love this genre I always have I have been on UK television twice defending violence in movies and it always saddens me to read some comments like the ones above saying 'fuck you jack' 'you pussy' as this plays right into their hands, what we need to do is form sensible , informed opinions and present them properly to these people , I would love to go up against Bill o reilly as I know i could run rings around him without resorting to childish insults, we need to unite and write to Fox news (anyone have an email address for bill?) and challenge them in an adult manner and make them realise that we are not raving maniacs living out sick fantasies in the cinema, but lovers of a genre that has always challanged, upset and pushed boundaries.
Here's a copy of the letter I sent to bill o'reilly... OH and here's his email if you wanna flood him with letters:
oreilly@foxnews.com
First off Mr. O'reilly I think it is neceserry to show you the comments made by Saw 2 & 3 Director Darren Lynn Bousman made about you.
So here is the link: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/7411
First, I must mention that I have digital cable with parental controls, and the only channel I have blocked on my television is the Fox News Channel. I don't want my family going to bed terrified at night, and certainly don't want them watching garbage like your show.
You wanna talk about senseless violence my friend? Take a look at Iraq, and what has been going on over there for the last few years.
I'm a 21 year old male who has never even been arrested, and I enjoy horror movies because they are simply entertaining. I have been watching the most gory, disturbing films I could find since I was at least 7 years old, and I have yet to EVER commit a violent act on anyone.
You sir need to keep your nose out of the horror industry... it is something that has existed since before you started your little tv show, and it will be around long after you're gone.
You are a censor. You are a drag on society. You help creat problems in america, not solve them. Your show is adding fuel to the fire of intolerance in this nation.
Negativity does not add or subtract artistic merit to or from something. Who are you to decide what is good art, and what isn't? Art is expression.. and if someone chooses to express themselves through a violent film, that does not make it garbage. You're judging these films soley on taste. If you do not like violent movies, I urge you to please not watch them. Even more than not watch horror films, I urge you to actually do some research and not be so one sided. Get some people on the show that can defend horror. Eli roth, Rob Zombie, Alex Aja, Darren Bousman, Greg Mclean, Wes Craven, Tobe Hooper, Stephen King, take your pick, I'm sure one or more of them would be happy to come on the show and set you straight. If they will not come on... talk to me, I would be more than happy to come on your show and make you look like a fool.
You are a joke of a human being.
-CDC
Bill O'Reilly:
Grow up, grow a pair, and grow a brain. You've been too scared to let anyone else's opinion be voiced on your show since the moment it started. Sounds like you're compensating for a complete lack of human intelligence.
Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. He never knows what he's talking about. He just latches himself onto the hot topic of the moment and then bashes said topic. Of course this has backfired on him more than once. Like your saying, at least our genre is getting more press. But we ALL know it's money that talks. And there's plenty of money to be made in the horror genre. He and all the other god fearing church people can bitch all they like. The horror genre is alive and well and it ain't goin anywhere. Remember when Morton Downey Jr did this to Fango back in the 80s.....and we all know how that turned out.
Don't bother listening to Fox News, they aren't reslly in a position to criticize anyone else when teyr'e network is nothing but a propaganda outlet for Bush and the republican party.
They have to push a conservative right-wing agenda, which is "pro-family" where everyone's happy and nothing's wrong in the world, rah rah.
O'Reilly's show actually aired video of the pedophile Republican Mark Folely only they labelled him a "Democrat" to confuse voters. The network's in the habit of skewing news and raly voters to their side. And this scare campaign is used to ceate a moral panic over horror films which have been around for 30 years.
O'reilly himself is a racist; he actually used the term "wetback" on his show without any recourse or discipline from the nework.
The man's a redneck in a suit, pay no mind to his lunatic rantings. Just vote democrat and watch him sulk for the next four years.
lol Man oh man.
As usual, O'Reilly recycles arguments from days past. If he and his style of "journalism" wasn't so influential on his viewers, he would simply be hilarious.
In doing research for my senior thesis on horror films, I've read all about the different ways critics have handled the horror genre and its viewers. One book I read summed it up thusly: in critics' eyes, to like horror films, you must either be sadistic (the Sadists Only argument) or dumb (the Moron argument). O'Reilly has simply recycled the tired old S.O. argument and put it out there for ratings. As soon as I hit "play" I was anticipating them using the word "sadistic" or "sadism," and I wasn't disappointed. So predictable.
I loved it when his "fair and balanced" side came out and he asked the writer "Do [the movie companies] ever just come out and say 'We're sorry, this stuff is garbage, but it sells.' You can just as easily say that about O'Reilly, and it would be way, way more correct. At least the films in questions have artistic value, even in the slightest. O'Reilly's show, and the man himself, is entirely worthless.
That psychiatrist was also completely incorrect. O'Reilly I think even realized this and said something like, "Well, some people just want a cheap thrill right?" For crying out loud when Bill O'Reilly thinks you are going too far something is very, very wrong. I hesitate to go into the psychology she spouted in just a response, but it is almost entirely incorrect. Only a small, small portion of the population that sees something like "The Hills Have Eyes" would relate to the mutants at all, even with something as simple as "power" issues with Mommy and Daddy. And examples like Jigsaw or the Firefly clan are MEANT to play with audiences' loyalties and sympathies, that's part of what makes it horror. If you find yourself identifying with a villain (even something like Darth Vader) it is meant to scare you further upon realizing that in the end, these people are just human. But, she isn't a filmmaker, so I wouldn't expect her to understand. However, the author that STUDIES FILM AND WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT should know this!
However, someone made the comment that without stuff like this, the horror genre wouldn't be doing it's job, and I agree. It's good to see this kind of stuff in the news, because that means we are finally getting movies that offend people again. Frankenstein and Dracula indeed; those movies offended the hell out of people back when they were first released. Frankenstein was even described as pornographic and sadistic from some reviewers, mainly because of the little girl being killed but also because of the idea of a monster being made out of body parts by a scientist who wanted to play God. It's simply context, which shows like O'Reilly have no interest in. If they had done any research whatsoever (yeah, I know, that's asking too much) they would have realized this.
But, in the end, it is all ratings, and they are just as 'despicable' as the horror films they pretend to loathe. Unfortunately people do listen to this guy and believe everything he says, no matter how dumb, racist, sexist, or just plain wrong it is.
On top of everything else, they haven't seen the films. How can you discuss something you've never seen? What good is that? That's like me saying, "I've never seen a real van Gogh in person, but I'm going to talk about his use of color and how trivial and banal his subtle twists on everyday themes are."
you will never see another side to an argument on fox news, that is a one sided issue, with no debates allowed to support horror movies, is how fox thinks.
I'm so sick and tired of people like this. They need to grow up a little bit. So horror's not for them,so what. I, as stated by Darren Bousman, do not like romantic comedies. Who's to say the mainstream movies are better than ours. If they don't like Jigsaw, Freddy Krueger, The Firefly Clan, Slovakian torturers, or cannibal families than they need to keep their opinions to themselves. The rest of us enjoy these films. We love Halloween, Friday the 13th, Cannibal Holocaust, and Re-Animator. We love all these horror movies and that's because we have a specific taste in movies which they also have. The only difference is horror fans don't make complete idiots of themselves by boycotting movies we despise. But I bet most of us have those films for deriving an opinion. Which again, show's more maturity than O'Reilly and his goons who don't even give our movies a viewing before making biased and foul-mouthed comments. Horror's here to stay and they should just go on about their own business and leave us and our movies alone.
O'Reilly is nothing more than an attention whore trying to cash in on the popularity of horror movies the only way he can: by representing the religious right POV. He asks if the studios releasing these films can explain themselves or are they just cashing the checks. Bill, can you explain your narrow-minded, self-admitted, uninformed viewpoint, or are you just cashing the checks from the attention you try to grab from this so called issue? The best way to deal with him is to do what he doesn't want: ignore him.
im a firm believer in the fact that an opinion is just that, an opinion but, when you go and abuse your position as a news anchor, in the attempt to sway other peoples opinions, now that's just plain wrong. heck, it's abusive. i have always watched horror films, and my personal movie collection contains many great (in my opinion) horror films, though i have always been able to see the artistic merit of any film i watch, well most films i watch, even i have a low tolerence for such "garbage" as romantic dramas and western style musicals, but even some of these films have good points. If this man at FIX (er FOX) studios want to vent his feelings about the genre of film which we love so much, we should all be vent opinions about the film genre that he loves so much. Whatever happened to freedom of speech, why should we be forcefed other people likes, when we have our own likes and dislikes. Some like gore, and some like bore. And again, this is just an opinion. If you're going to say that horror movies today are offensive, you should also lookat the movies of the past, frankenstein, nosferatu, the creature from the black lagoon, KING KONG, these movies were all offensive in their days becuase of the things they showed. what about the orgasm-faking scene from when harry met sally, that was pretty offensive.
To be honest, I don't see the point in all of the hatred over this. Over the past two years we have seen lots of horror movies bring in lots of money at the box office. When a gory movie like Saw 3 comes in number one over the weekend, I think it nominated itself as a good candidate for discussion in news media. I love horror movies just as much as anyone else on this site, and though I don't agree with O'reilly's personal opinion on the matter, I think an interesting fact should be mentioned. Name the last huge horror movie that hasn't focused on gore/porn to win over the box office? No matter how you feel about horror movies, your a douche if you are going to try and argue the fact that gore/porn doesn't sell. So O'reilly expressed his intolerance of extreme violence in movies and brought a psychiatrist on his show for a "professional" opinion of why we all go see these movies, big f'ing deal.
Without horror movies and video games I would worship satan and kill everyone I know.
word up!
Where did they find that psychotherapist, 1942? The people that watch these movies are going to act them out and are looking to feel power they dont have? Please.
The horror fan has evolved. Maybe at some point some weirdo masturbated to horror films and then hurt someone, but most of us these days appreciate innovation and fantastic special effects, and we just want to have a good time. I think everyone can recognize the difference between the violence in Freddy vs Jason (Funny) against the violence in Schindler's List (not so much).
This is just a news story to get some attention from SAW III. No one really believes this - I hope.
This is such a stupid argument.All they have is two horror movie haters who just don't get it.Can you get a real horror movie fan besides Bill O Reily,67 Year Old John Stewart,and Helen Keller!?This is dumb!And they call it garbage cause they like i said before just don't get it.Horror movie fans like this stuff because it's fun.Not garbage.Fun.They don't want to act it out.There might be that occasional one or two that might want to but do you really think some dude is gonna create a crucifix rack that spins your arms,legs,and heads in a full 360 motion and stick a guy onto it?The answer is no.Screw the haters!Horror movies are pretty much the center of pop culture next to countless other things and the horror movie fans should just start a revoltuon!Revolt against the haters!Damn you who insult our genre and go back to watching "Flicka" instead of "Saw III." Shut up haters!
There really is no news channel more dispicable than Fox News. Once again Bill O'Reily uses his national podium to voice his opinion as fact, and doesn't even allow one contradicting opinion to challenge him. This is such nonsense. Right Wing America is far more disturbing to me than the fiction portrayed in modern horror. These movies are not a "release" to "vent my frustrations" or whatever idiocy that psychotherepist rambled off. This is a fun escape from the mundane everyday and nothing more harmful than that. I wish O'Reily would get a life and stop bashing what so much of America loves.
This was quite a frustrating thing to watch and listen to. This is exactly the kind of sentiment that is wrong with the people in control of this country. You're going to look into this? No thank you. You're parental views and opinions are not needed, nor were they asked for. Instead of going after film distributors, who make movies for an adult market, capable of deciding what is and what isn't "good" for them, and keep your attention on the dibacle that you've created over seas.
and if Bill O'reilly had done any research, he would know that this type of filmmaking is nothing new. It's been around ever since psycho, and night of the living dead. Christ, last house on the left was a pretty fucked up flick, and that came out in the late 70's, so do your homework before you go trashing things.
I'm more enraged about the fact that most film companies can't give us any decent original ideas for any genre. The only movies we've gotten for the most part in the past 10 years are remakes, videogame/comic/book crossovers, and dumbed down sequels.
This is funny..
I will admit.. YES these films are a bit of a gorefest orgy. But I enjoy them.. and I DO NOT HAVE ISSUES. I love the stories and the surreal worlds which these films take place in. What about war films? Those are more realistic then freaken slasher films.
BUT..
They are acting like the generation before them.. "KISS MUSIC IS SATANIC!" - Same exact crap. Entertainment is entertainment.. it sells and makes people happy. So they should just shove it up their asses and forget about it.. there is no way of stopping it.
There will always be something each gerneration bitches about. Generations X and Y will bitch sometime in the future.
Actually, Darren Bousman should be thanking O'Reilly for this segment. In his futile attempt to comment on our lack of morals in America, he just gave free publicity for Saw III! O'Reilly is a moron who doesn't understand the public and I highly suspect that "psychotherapist" got her degree off a book of matches.
I am glad that I did look at the segment with Bill O'Reilly. This man does has his opinions but others have theirs. Yes, Saw 3 is a gorefest, yes the horror movies of this generation is more extreme than when he was a child. But their is an audience for these types of films. I myself am a fan of Hostel and cannot wait to see Hostel part 2. I love gore stuff and the more the better! But these films are making these motion picture companies a lot of money! These movies are in demand and these directors are happy to make them. I do not find these movies tasteless in any way. I have been a horror fan since I was little and will be one forever. O'Reilly and that pyschotherapist need to get a life and not take stuff seriously. If someone does do these actions in real life they are disturbed but the biggest media outlet that distributes more violence, etc. is the evening news. All you see is tradegy, killings, murders, etc. So he needs to look at his network first...
Two things to say: #1 the field of psychology, as is obvious in this clip, is a sham. Somehow they've been able to classify themselves as scientists, which is absolute bullshit. they create stories to explain things that cannot be proven or disproven, i wish someone (besides tom cruise) would finally call this crap what it is...a scam. #2 anyone who actually believes that horror is harmful, is an out of touch moron, and just like jack thompson, they'll have to get over it
What a dick... and whats the deal with that Psychotherapist? People who watch these films are on tranquilizers and buy toys?? What the frig are tehse idiots on about...?
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