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TV: ‘Dexter’ Producer Talks Season 7, Icky Adopted Sibling Romance!
Spoiler Warning.
Season six of “Dexter” ended with a shocker. Depending on your point of view, the shocker was either Debra walking in on “Dexter” mid murder, or Debra pursuing romance with her adopted brother at the advice of a professional therapist. (I was more shocked by the latter.)
Current showrunner Manny Coto met with the Television Critics Association in a cocktail reception, and he went there on both topics. First for new news. Season seven will obviously address whether Debra reports “Dexter” or keeps his secret (more likely the latter. If they can do 13 episodes on Debra arresting/chasing “Dexter”, bravo.) A technical decision will be where to pick up the season premiere. Coto is leaning towards picking up immediately, but jumping forward is a possibility. “We’ve discussed maybe jumping forward and flashing back, we’ve discussed picking up right afterwards,” Coto said. “We don’t know yet. One advantage [to picking up immediately] is you’re able to play the emotion forward. There’s an advantage to jumping ahead and doing flashbacks but then you’re trapped in flashbacks and the audience spends a lot of time catching up. That can be good because you’re setting up a mystery but at the same time, there were advantages to just picking up where you left off and going forward so you’re with the characters as you go.”
This direction for the story in no way indicates the series wrapping up, says Coto. “Not at all. It’s more part of keeping things fresh. We actually had no idea whether we were going to go two years or four years, what have you when this decision was made. Right now we’ve been renewed for two more but that could go on, who knows? It’s hard to tell. So it really wasn’t looked at as an endgame. It was more of an evolution of “Dexter”‘s life as a killer, as a father and as a brother.”
Writing begins February 1, so everything is till on the table. Coto is favoring bringing the ensemble together more tightly than the B stories they’ve all had in previous years. “Personally I would tighten it up but we may get into the writer’s room and go a different course. The fun of it is she’s running the department. By her keeping her mouth shut, if she does, the boss is now holding a secret from her fellow cohorts. Batista and Quinn and everyone around her, having to keep a secret from all of them makes this a much more fun and dynamic place. It’s now a series about a serial killer who works for Miami Metro but whose sister is now the head of Miami Metro and knows he’s a serial killer. It’s a fascinating dynamic for us to explore.”
That also sounds like a vote of confidence for Deb keeping the secret. It’s just so much juicier to explore that. Even the thoughts on a new killer for season seven depend on Debra. “We don’t know yet. It’s too early. We’ve had preliminary discussions. Whoever it is will be someone hopefully that really puts the pressure of Debra and her knowledge of “Dexter”, that informs that dynamic we’ve set up.”
Now, onto uncomfortable business. The moment Deb’s therapist said she should explore her romantic feelings for “Dexter”, most of us said, “Nooo!” To many viewers, adopted siblings are just as taboo as blood siblings. “Dexter” isn’t her biological brother, but they are family. Shouldn’t a responsible therapist discourage that?
“A therapist might but some of the therapists I’ve worked with are all for pursuing where your feelings go,” Coto said. “These are adults. These aren’t teenagers living with mom and dad. Once you’re an adult and you have these feelings, you have to at least explore them in some way. I don’t know many therapists who would say, ‘You’ve got to block that out. Forget that.’”
Not block it out, but come on, don’t date your brother. That’s still wrong. “It is, it is but it happens,” Coto admitted. “Not very often but it does happen. By the way, because it’s appalling and maybe disturbing, this is “Dexter”. We felt that it’d be interesting to pursue this particular storyline even if it is appalling and disturbing to some people. This is not ABC Family. This is Showtime and the show is constantly trying to go forward into places that you didn’t expect.”
It certainly was unexpected. The controversial development still came out of a thematic place, even if the theme didn’t stop at adoption incest. “It was more something that came to us because we’d looked upon Debra’s relationships in the past. We try to write from being inside the character’s heads. Having been in Debra’s head for so many years and her failed relationships and her relationship with an earlier serial killer and the fact that she always picks these guys who are unavailable or problematic, it just occurred to us that maybe there’s something behind all this.”
“Dexter” returns to Showtime this fall.
Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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