Grime, you need therapy or incarceration. To feel so much anger and resentment toward other people for liking something you don't is not just unhealthy; it borders on psychosis. The fact that you didn't recognize my use of quotation marks around the phrase "got it" to indicate that the sentiment was the feeling of metal fans, not an indictment of those who aren't, speaks volumes about your own qualifications to label other people "imbeciles". I deliberately put those quotes there so intelligent readers would realize I wasn't accusing them of not understanding the SAW films and their appeal. Obviously you missed that, so what else needs to be said on that topic? As for your assertion that all of the NOES sequels were awful (including, I presume, the highly regarded DREAM WARRIORS), that's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. Unlike you, I (and most of the rest of the B-D readers) feel no inexplicable impulse to become violently angry with someone who has different taste in films than I do.