Two weeks ago Dimension Films made this major announcement where they revealed plans for 18 direct-to-disc sequels for release in 2009. Something interesting that was announced was that following a theatrical release of HALLOWEEN II - the sequel to Rob Zombie's re-envisioning of Michael Myers' tale of terror created by John Carpenter - the plan is to release direct-to-disc sequels to the newly rebooted franchise. This might not be the case, read on for the skinny.
Bloody-Disgusting's BC is on hand at this weekend's Halloween: 30 Years of Terror convention in Pasadena, CA where HALLOWEEN Producer Malek Akkad, son of Moustapha Akkad, revealed to attendees that any-and-all sequels will be theatrically released, contrary to initial reports.
It was also revealed that the sequel will begin directly after Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN and that Tyler Mane will return as Michael.
More on this as it comes in. What do you guys think? Would you rather see loads of direct-to-disc sequels or a few big budget sequels every five years? I personally will take anything that's good.
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Nothing can redeem that mess of a first one. I, with every bit of my existence, do not want a series to spawn from that god awful abomination. I am a huge fan of John Carpenter's original and that film was a complete disgrace. If these sequels happen, I will never watch a single one. But I will continue to happily rewatch my favorites of the originals until the day I die--Halloween 1, and 4. (The others are okay too, minus Resurrection, which I will also never put on my shelf.)
Enough! I'm tired off all the constant bashing of RZ's Halloween.I know everybody's entitled to their own opinion, but i for one liked it. I'm sure Rob Zombie won't be directing the sequel.
I love the Halloween movies with the exception of Season of the Witch. I really enjoy the original but also enjoy the remake because Rob Zombie explained his childhood more in his then John Carpenter. So we know more of Micheal Myers background than before. I personally am hype for sequels as long as they try to make them as good as they possibly can.
I wouldn't want to see a sequel to the remake. I liked the remake (even though it will never compare itself to the franchise)but if you make a sequel, you'll eventually remake the entire series. However, it's better than a direct-to-DVD sequel.
rob's halloween was great, he took a played out horror icon and made him scary and cool again..halloween is my favorite franchise and i completely would love more movies, and respect what rob did for the franchise
I love Halloween, I really do but the movies will only start to be good when everyone stops treating it and taking it so seriously! The original is a masterpiece right...that will never be repeated and we wont get anything like it again...I say just stop tip toeing about on the series and just fucking go for it!
i dont care how shitty the sequels might be, Michael Myers just isn't the kind of character you make DTV. either put him on the big screen or not at all. but i think we can trust that Part II isn't going to involve any of the bullshit white trash elements that Zombie's had. im expecting it to at least be better than that.
I'm down for more sequels for this franchise. Rob Zombie fleshed out the character so well... the circumstances in which Michael grew up nurtured his psychotic behavior. To me, he's always been the more realistic of the slashers... and he doesn't say a damn word, which is just terrifying. Plus, with the original franchise, there were many new twists with each film, fleshing out his story more and more. I was pleasantly surprised when I watched the Director's Cut of Rob's flick because it was pretty damn clear that Dr. Loomis was alive, just now blind in one eye, so he could style the eye patch for the sequels. This is very good news to me for the day!
I don't see why people needed to understand Michael Myers motivation. Hes a killer , leave it at that.Not understanding him is what made him frightening in the first place. And what was with seeing his eyes. I want my nightmares deep , dark and soulless. Rob Zombie did a complete 360 and it was definitely for the worst. Rob zombie did a piss-poor job of resurrecting the franchise. Horrible!! I will never understand why people think he is a good director. All he does is shock for shocks sake. And not in a good way . Not to mention all the unnecessary cursing that was in the movie. Who talks like that? I've seen drunken sailors with a more defined vocabulary. I'd rather see direct - to video sequels by never heard of directors . At least some unheard of will try to make the best film for everybody and not just some ego driven half-hearted rehash .
I thought Rob Zombie's Halloween was great! And I would much rather see theatrical releases than direct to DVD because I feel like theatrical releases would be made much better. joshua t. gurley- come up to my dorm room and just listen to how people talk, you will hear swear after swear. That is just the way it is now.
THEATRICAL!!! I hated the remake..Why not a sequel to the original series. I always thought it'd be cool to see a theatrical franchise hit the teens in sequels...Weird, I know. DVD's will destroy this franchise!!!
I don't remember much of Halloween 2, maybe because i only saw it twice. The only thing I remember is when this trick-or-treater dressed like Michael Myers got run over by I think an ambulance, then it blew up. That was insane. But I would love to see a remake.
I want something good...but I'm just glad that Tyler Mane is gonna be Michael again...I think he did a wonderful job....hope they bring back the whole hospital thing...I mean hospitals are creepy anyway.
i liked all of the halloweens except for the third one and also ressurection. (i dont think that they should of killed off jamie lee curtis;s charceter laurie). but they should instead of doing a sequel to the horrible rz remake*i gave it one more chance by watching it while at a haunted house on halloween and it still stunk). they should t ry to tie in halloween four through six. but i doubt that will ever happen.......i agree with you davegr
Rob Zombies Halloween was the best out of all of them. Anyone who says differnet is just trying to act like a poser and say it was a mess just because someone else said it. Bunch of fags, All of you who didnt like it fucking suck and are not true fans of horror. How can anyone say zombies remake wasent scary. It actually made the character a true horror icon rather then crap like the other ones. The originals where not even a bit scary. I showed my little brother all of them and even he said the originals where boring and sucked. After rob zombies halloween the kid was shiting his pants.
how can they do another, when he was clearly dead? he got shot in the head, or shot like 30 times! depending on which ending you saw???????????????? he's dead!!!!!!!!!!
with rob zombies halloween where do you think they will take the 2 one. hopefully they dont make the second one in a hospital already done. they should make movie we havent seen, and make it good and scary.
The original Halloween wasn't about Michael, it was about Laurie. Michael was never supposed to really have a back story. He was only supposed to be scary, period, and John Carpenter accomplished it in spades, but I think Zombie has disillusioned people with his remake. And to think, I was so happy with him after The Devil's Rejects.
Personally, a remake of the "trapped in the hospital" storyline of the original Halloween II might be good considering that the remake of the first one was so blasphemous and messed up. I think as long as Zombie doesn't have a thing to do with it, a picking-up-the-pace update of the sequel might work better.
I still feel remakes are a bad thing, especially when the original already did a great job, but I'd rather see the Halloween franchise continue than die due to Zombie's mistake. Also, keeping some of the remake's cast is a good idea too. Not that they were great to begin with (they weren't), but new people at this point would be like a reboot of a reboot, and no one wants that.
Rob Zombie is not the anti-Christ! lol...We are entitled to our opinions and from what I have read most people want him shot before a firing squad. His Halloween was not as good as the original but I for one went in expecting that. How could ANYONE do better than Carpenter?
I enjoyed Rob's version and certainly have my complaints but he did make Michael scary again. And I liked that Michael was given a backstory. I for one prefer that so I know why he is doing what he is doing. And trying to explain that in one or two sentences is not sufficient. For me anyways.
I am just freakin happy that they are making sequels or a sequel after the bashing that Rob's version received. Bring it on baby!! Bring it on!!
I don't know why RZ's Halloween takes so much flak......It's true that nothing can compare to the original but you have to give Zombie credit because it's the first good Halloween movie since Halloween 3....
I'm looking forward to this one myself. Seems like every franchise is getting a reboot these days. Perhaps its Freddy's turn?
Please don't make this sequel an exact copy of the original "Halloween 2"! They need to do something new, something a little more original to keep this franchise alive. If they keep releasing remakes of the original saga, the series will end up going DTV.
if zombie would have reshot the original frame for frame you all would have been pissed. he made this one more about michael then redoing the exact same thing and you guys are pissed. if they would have made a sequel to the grand entry that busta bust would have been in, you all would have been pissed. this is bullshit, be happy that he isn't in space or heaven forbid nilbog.
as long as Zombie is not director. taking his attitude, I think he needs to be really loaded on booze to get up from his rocking chair that's outside his trailer porch to begin considering the possibility of pondering about what a sequel to his vomit-remake would be like.
i wouldnt rank rob zombie's above john carpenters, but it sure as hell was better than all the other sequels. and i WANT the series to stay in theatrical release because its not every day you get to see cinema's greatest slasher on the big screen. i cannot wait to see part II!
Definately the sequel every 5 years oir so. Any actor would rather that too to help boost their career. Seeing a movie theatrical is always better anyway, because the tension is scarier and the whole movie makes people shit scared if its a good one.
I agree with anyone that can see Zombie's version for what it is. Did anyone really expect to see a superior film to the original? Of course not! Take a look at your DVD shelf. There it is - the orignal Halloween - safe and sound, right where it's always been.
I love ALL of the Halloween movies (alright, maybe not Resurrection). Even if the remake had been half as terrible as so many seem to think, it certainly doesn't deminish the orginal in any way for me. I really enjoyed Zombie's Halloween and welcome any and all opportunities to see Michael Myers tearing shit up!
I'd like to see Robert Englund take over the Loomis role from McDowell though. I'm definitely a fan of Malcolm's, but he just wasn't quite 'Loomisy' enough for me. Englund would be perfect.
I think Rob Zombie's Halloween should be a stand-alone movie... I really didn't like it.
They could continue the original series without even referencing the first 8 movies if they wanted to... It's not like continuity was a priority in them anyway. So it'd be fresh and new but still work with the originals.
Just an idea. :)
Another RZ Halloween fan here, RZ made Myers scary again IMO, also loved the look of the film. Hopefully the "powers that be" let RZ follow it up with an even better second installment, kinda like the difference between House of 1k Corpes & The Devils Rejects.
Tyle is great to be returning but if it picks up directly will we see Malcom or Taylor Scout return as well? You have to keep the original cast to make it work.
I myself thought the remake was ok. It had some good ideas but Zombie executed them poorly. A sequel, a good one, could make the first forgivable and the best way to start is to bring back the original cast.
The relationship of Loomis and Michael has ALWAYS been the strongest part of the series so McDowell needs to be there.
I agree with summer_nights. They should just make a completely new movie and leave the remake as a stand-alone. I liked the remake for what is was and tried not to compare it to the original, but I really don't want them to continue with the remake's storyline. Just make us original Halloween franchise fans happy. They could even take it the Halloween Nightdance direction. It's an awesome comic series that drifts away from the original characters. I really don't want all of the original franchise to be remade.
For gawd's sake, keep it theatrical! The series has been kicked around enough and sentencing it to direct-to-DVD status is enough to make any old-skool fan cry himself to sleep.
Oh the whining is unbearable. Who would the haters of liked to direct the remake? RZ's Halloween was great. JC's Halloween was legendary. I'm happy there is going to be a sequel. Ecstatic Tyler will reprise the role. Did a few want another sequel to the original? Really? Um, no. Reinventing the franchise is better than a 60 year old Michael still stalking his dead sister. Resurection was awful and was THE insult to the franchise. I hope this a trilogy that sums up the entire storyline and succeeds admirably. Why are all you "fans" so upset? We get our favorite horror icon back for christ sake. Sit back and enjoy it for what it is or get up and do it better yourself.
Yeah, u people do bitch way to much. You aren't changing anybody's mind here... I agree that RZ's Halloween was a pile, but that doesn't mean that JC's is going to be burned and never viewed again. If 'Bewitched' can have two Darrins and 'Roseanne' can have two Beckys... there can be two Halloweens. Sure I wish the upcoming films didn't follow Zombie's remake, but seeing Mike on the big screen is thrill enough for me. As long as evil never dies, I'll be watching.
Rob Zombie's Halloween is great and I'll take the sequels however they put them out. I'm glad it picks up right where his ends and Tyler Mane is returning as Michael.
Thank goodness for people with common sense like GoliathSlasher. Zombie's movie, while no masterpiece, was without question better than any sequel in the series. What was Zombie supposed to do? Was he to make a sequel to the Oscar winning "Resurrection"? Also, he was working with one weakness. He somehow had to incorporate the fact the Laurie was Michael's sister in his version. Why? Because we already knew that going in. Carpenter didn't have that weakness, because that fact wasn't revealed until H2. Carpenter invented the slasher genre. The template was his. He couldn't screw it up. If the original came out today, we'd all say it stinks. We'd say that it's too slow, too many mistakes i.e. how in the world did Loomis stake out the Myer's home all night and never notice the stolen state vehicle parked within eye shot until it was convenient to the plot. I loved the original too, but feel zombie did an okay job given the circumstances. Give him a break. Also, why would anyone (horrorchick81) tie in those stupid sequels 4-6. My goodness those movies couldn't suck enough. Was Carpenter's movie filmed on a farm like those movies were? Were there barn parties, scarecrows, and worse than than that, the mysterious man from Thorn? Not to mention those ever changing mask and fat Micheal's from part 4 and 6, and skinny in 5. Oh yeah...Michael was arrested and busted out. Also a classic!
The problem more than anything is that Zombie didn't understand why Carpenter's Myers was scary. The character was significantly altered, changing into a psychopath instead of the blank, emotionless 'Shape' we all knew from the original. Even McDowell's Loomis used the word "psychopath" to describe his patient. "Psychopath" is a term used to describe a human with a mental disorder. The original Myers was not driven by human emotion, but something more sinister. Something humans couldn't understand. Listen to the difference in Pleasence's Loomis description and McDowell's. Zombie missed this entirely. He continued to beat the audience down with Myers' relentless brutality, driven by human emotion. Since the beginning of storytelling, a common theme is "fear the unknown." By giving us so much information on Myers background, Zombie made Myers a typical, run-of-the-mill psychopath who was a product of his environment. That's not the Myers I once knew.
The Halloween franchise lost it's soul when Donald Pleasence passed away!!! Nuff said!!! "An hour ago I fired six shots into him, he just got up & walked away. I'm talking about the real possibility that he's still out there"-----Halloween II.
I totally agree with F13FanAtic. The "fear of the unknown" is what makes it fun. The audience can then project their imagination into the film. That's what made Jaws, Halloween ect, such a terrific film. Nowadays, every fucking thing HAS to be explained. You've got to leave something to the imagination. It's like a song with vague lyrics. It means something different to everybody. It's left up to the individual to interpret. I'm Quint's Machete, & I approve this comment!!!
Tyler Maine needs a haircut. I don't think Michael Myers should look like a Black Label Society Reject. Keep Zombie away from this one and I might go see it.
Im in the I'll take anything good at this point. All though I do agree with the idea of M. Myers is way bigger than DTV, he should get theatrical release. I have to say also why so much hate for Season of the Witch, I actually think its a decent flick. When I first seen RZ's Halloween, I really enjoyed it, but then once I got it on dvd and watched it again I wasnt that impressed by it. Id watch another sequal though.
ziltoid the omniscient, they shouldn't REMAKE RZ's Halloween, but REBOOT it! Hehehe. I mean, look what they did with the Hulk. The first Hulk movie came out, sucked, and they REBOOTED it with the Incredible Hulk. Quint's Machete, everything has to be explained to kids nowadays cause they lack any and all imagination. That can be reflected on the horror movie industry right now with all the remakes out there. Nobody's smart enough to be imaginative. Maybe one can blame public schools for pushing that kind of stuff out of the door and giving rise to THESE types of peeps. I'm just glad that when I was younger, there were actually programs on television that nurtured imaginatio, and times at school where we are allowed to let our creativity run wild. Horror isn't a genre that's suposed to be spoon fed to you. The greater experience depends on the VIEWER themselves, and their imagination writing in that which WASN'T spoonfed to them. It's purely a genre that is psychological, ever since it's origins in books. It's never been, "we are going to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know" and has always been "We are going to tell you only enough, and you come with us on this ride and fill in the pieces, and BECOME a piece of this horrific tapestry youself!". That's lost with the younger generation.
I wonder how many re-makes a series can handle before the whole fan base is like, enough already I have no more intrest in the character. What is a bigger challenge, a remake or how to continue a series, possibly solve previous issues within the story (part5,6,7). Sorry but to this day the most clever idea I liked because it was different, was the crushed local cord issue after we all thought he had his head chopped off.
First of all, the remake was fucking awsome! I don't know why people think its shit! I mean. the remake had freakin brutal murders compared to the original series!(of course I like the original series better). Michael Myers was really cool in the remake.
Second, DON'T DO A FUCKING SEQUEL TO THE REMAKE PLEASE!!! They should NOT do sequels to remakes! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SEQUEL TO THE ORIGINAL SERIES INSTEAD!THEY COULD JUST USE THE NEW MICHAEL IN A SEQUEL TO THE ORIGINAL SERIES! I mean, it really would be awsome to see a HALLOWEEN 9 with the new Michael instead of remaking the whole damn series into remakes!!! Think about it people!
Rob Zombie's Halloween sucked ass. It gave Michael Myers a motivation for his killing spree whereas in the original he had no motivation whatsoever; thatīs what made it even scarier.
In the remake "I kill people because I was physically abused when I was a child". What a load of crap! Thatīs why John Carpenter's original is a genuine work of art and Rob Zombie's a piece of shit. And now he wants to film a sequel??????????
IMO, i think what got people on mixed opinions of either love or hate the Rob Zombie remake was the attempt at making Michael more of the victim since pretty much everybody in his childhood (except for his mom and his baby sister "Boo") treated him like crap so when he killed those who mistreated him, you really didn't feel any sympathy at all for the victims and were more like "Yeah you go Mikey, that whore of a sister you have doesn't deserve to be still breathing, and that lousy boyfriend of your Mom is a d-bag so go ahead and kill them, the world is far better off without them in it." I might be wrong but that's my theory. As for my opinions on a sequel, i keep thinking how they're gonna work past the ending which pretty much sealed the deal on any sequels becoming even remotely possible but i guess they'll come up with a good explanation.
Thanks. Back in the original Halloween movies, Michael was exactly what Dr. Loomis described him as, not human and totally evil, devoid of conscience. But in the remake, since almost everybody in Michael's childhood bullied him, none of the victims (either in childhood or present day) really get any sympathy at all, and even though Dr. Loomis describes Michael the same way as in the original movies, it's a bit harder to believe it now that we know Michael had a rough childhood which was the catalyst for him becoming the masked serial killer he was in his childhood when he killed his older sister, and in present day after escaping Smith's Grove. Even Laurie is made to be less sympathetic here since in the original she always played around good with little Tommy Doyle but here in the remake, she even teases him sometimes to the point of bullyism. And quite frankly, Scout Taylor-Compton's "Was that the Boogeyman?" doesn't hold a candle to when it was uttered in the original by the great Jamie Lee Curtis. And for that matter, neither does the "As a matter of fact, it was." done by Malcolm McDowell in comparison to another brilliant actor Donald Pleasance (RIP).
I couldn't have said it better myself, FrankiePR88. That chaos with Michael Myers IS what MADE him. It wasn't because he was just some killer in a mask. It's like, when you ask someone to list the defining characteristics of a horror movie villain, you say, "Freddy toys with his victims, works off of their fears. Jason kills fast, doesn't talk, just goes for it.". Michael Myers has always been the chaotic, souless killer. He's void of all human emotion, and that includes revenge and hate. He just kills, like robot, is steady and cold in his posture. It's funny when I hear people say that modern kids aren't afraid of things like that, when I bet my soul that if any modern kids ever encountered a killer that you can't reason with, a killer that's voice of remorse and all traces humanity, EVERYBODY would be shitting their pants in fear. The fact of the matter seems to be, modern kids FEAR chaos more than ever. That's the prime reason why they NEED an explaination for why Michael Myers does what he does. They NEED it, cause it's popular thought that we have come up so high as a civilization, that we are now in a great age of reason. There is a scientific and psychological answer for EVERYTHING. Especially with the logic-driven children of our generation, it's hard to swallow that chaos might exist. Things that cannot EVER be explained. It rocks your world. It makes you question if, in fact, we are living in a world that we try as much to make that of Order, when in fact unpredictability is all around us, and chaos is waiting to swallow us up. That scares people. The truth is that chaotic things happen all the time. It's only when they hit close to home and there are NO explainations is that those who rebuke chaos are those who are shaken the most. In simple terms, it's the things people tell themselves to sleep better at night.
I dont want sucky Direct to Dvd sequels but I don't want Shitty big Budget Theatricals either. Just do what ever would be better for the quality of the franchise. I'm glad Tyler Mane is coming back because love the movie or hate it he Rocked at Michael.
With all due respect.....since the tragic circumstances of Moustapha Akkad's death, Malek has shown a complete lack of brain function as the heir-apparent custodian of this franchise. RZWeen was a mess, and ultimately (despite any and all efforts by the rampant ROB cheerleading spin doctors running rampant on this site) a financially mediocre performer given the trends in current horror. For anyone looking to instantly jump in and flame my commentary consider the following financial info concerning the supposed 'savior' of the franchise. ROB's Halloween made $58.3 mil at the box office during its run. Other movies that have been remade or are contemporaries to ROB Zombie's collective artistic output are.....REPOST (please pardon): Stepford Wives-$59.4, Amityville-$65.2, Chainsaw-$80.5 The Haunting-$91.4 (all remakes that were released before ROB's little underperforming piece of shit when ticket prices are rated less due to inflation. Shall I continue..... Saw 4-$63.3 Saw 3-$80.2 Saw 2-$87.0 Dawn of the Dead-$59.0 Freddy v Jason-$82.6 Halloween, Halloween 2, H:20, and Resurrection-all higher grossing when adjusted for inflation which is universally accounted for in the industry when calculating the ACTUAL NUMBER OF TICKET STUBS SOLD and therefore the actual number of people who went to see a movie. While I cannot prove this next statement in any way, shape, or form.....I would venture to guess that Malek and the Weinstein's were looking for Freddy vs. Jason money or Saw money (as they are considerred the upper echelons of the genre both in fan and financial success) and therefore unleashed their sheer media onslaught to accomplish this. When the critical slamming and subsequent financial numbers started coming in we got responses such as this: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/9802 Again, I cannot verify any of this but we all know that RZWeen made far, far less than many of its contemporaries.....
For the sake of honesty, Ressurrection needs to be removed from that above list. Adjusted for inflation its running around $36mil, which is probably about $35,999,999.99better than it shouls have performed.....
Deffinitly better for it to be theatrical. People don't give Rob Zombie's version as much credit as it deserves. Yeah, it wasn't perfect, but it was damn good, especially compared to a lot of the other horror-remake crap we get. I just hope whoever directs does not mess it up.
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