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Wednesday, July 30, 2008


By: MrDisgusting
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I've been sitting in the back seat watching the stories unfold regarding Lionsgate vs. Clive Barker about his film The Midnight Meat Train. We reported awhile back that the film was slated to open in limited theaters on August 1st, which is all fine and dandy, until I found out that the film is opening in dollar theaters... yeah, $1 theaters. "They're dumping it at mostly dollar theaters (the second run theaters, so it'll make even LESS money)," writes B-D reader Brian W. (one of a handful who wrote in). "It's playing at a Dollar Theater in Norwalk and Oklahoma and Idaho. Check MovieTickets.com if you don't believe me. " The question is, why does Lionsgate want the movie to make less money than it would normally in limited theaters? I'm going to investigate this further as something seems off. B-D readers are encouraged to report their findings below, good or bad. Note: Theater listings now inside...




Temeku Discount Cinema (Temecula,CA)
Cinemark Movies 10 (Cathedral City,CA)
La Mirada Dollar Movie 7 (La Mirada,CA)
Cinemark Movies 12 Lancaster (Lancaster,CA)
Bell Canyon Pavilions 8 (Phoenix,AZ)
Superstition Mall (Mesa,AZ)
Cinemark Movies 8 (Provo,UT)
Cinemark Valley Fair 9 (West Valley City,UT)
Cinemark Movies West 8 Cinema (Albuquerque,NM)
Cinemark Sugar House 10 (Salt Lake City,UT)
Cinemark Movies 8 Theatre (Albuquerque,NM)
East Pointe Movies 12 (El Paso,TX)
Cinemark Movies 12 (Springfield,OR)
Westgate Mall Cinema 6 (Amarillo,TX)
Gateway Movies 8 (Federal Way,WA)
Cinemark Movies 12 (Laredo,TX)
Cinemark Movies 16 (San Antonio,TX)
Northpark 7 (Oklahoma City,OK)
Robinson Crossing 8 (Norman,OK)
Crossroads Movies 8 (Oklahoma City,OK)
Cinemark Round Rock-Discount Movies 8 (Round Rock,TX)
Cinemark Movies 8 (North Richland Hills,TX)
Palace Theatre West (Wichita,KS)
Starplex Irving Cinema 10 (Irving,TX)
Movies 8 (Lewisville,TX)

From Clive Himself:

If you wish to see MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN in all its big screen glory at a THEATER near you, please do the following:

Cut and paste the message at the bottom of this post and e-mail it to:

1) investor relations at Lionsgate: keasterling@lionsgate.com

2) Lionsgate: general-inquiries@lionsgate.com

3) call Lionsgate at (310) 449-9200 and express your desire to see MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN get the release it deserves.

BE POLITE AND PROFESSIONAL! We do not want to piss them off, just want them to know how many fans out there would like to shell out their hard earned cash to see the most groundbreaking horror film of the past ten years in a real movie theater!

HERE'S A SAMPLE MESSAGE FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE (or feel free to compose your own):

Dear Lionsgate,

As a long time Clive Barker fan, I am writing you to express my strong desire to see "The Midnight Meat Train" on the big screen.

Rumors are currently circulating that the film will only be released on a limited basis and I am very concerned that I will miss my opportunity to see the most highly anticipated Clive Barker film in over a decade in all of its big screen glory!

There are millions of horror fans like myself who have been disappointed by the recent trend towards watered down PG-13 horror movies. Clive's work represents a return to serious, thought provoking horror movies and with Ryuhei Kitamura at the helm, I am even more excited to experience this collaboration, as it was intended: in a packed theater with hundreds of other horror fans like myself!

I urge you to please give this film the release it deserves!

Many thanks,
YOUR NAME



Source: Bloody-Disgusting

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Lucksaw
8:48pm, July 30, 2008

I don´t really understand why Lionsgate is doing this to its film; since I saw the first trailer I´m amazed and I´m really looking foward to ir. Sadly, I live in Argentina and if this problem with the limited release happens in USA, "Midnight Meat Train" is going straight to DVD here in my country. Too bad!

Albedo777
8:55pm, July 30, 2008

I can confirm that it's opening at dollar theatres...and only dollar theatres in my area (NE). When I did an area search on Fandango, only one theatre came up. I was confused and thought it had to be a typo, but it's not. A run down, rickety theatre that almost no one goes to is the only theatre for miles that is showing it. Very, very odd.

deadlover
8:56pm, July 30, 2008

BLOODY FUCKING HELL.

djblack1313
9:00pm, July 30, 2008

i'm "lucky"(if you can call it that!LOL), MMT is coming here to Seattle at (guess), our $2.00 cinema!! WTF!! Clive Barker (and the folks who made this movie!) deserve RESPECT, Lionsgate!!! as much as i'm excited to be going on Friday to see it, i'm saddened by the horrid treatment the this movie/Clive have received from LG.

foofighter24
9:03pm, July 30, 2008

Since everyone is so concerned about how much money a film makes, I should remind you that you are not limited to paying the price advertised. Most theaters, even the dollar ones, will gladly accept more. So, feel free to fork over $100 a ticket if it makes you feel better. How dare they actually give the public a bargain! Flog them!

MrDisgusting
9:06pm, July 30, 2008

They're not giving the public a bargain... if they were doing it FOR the fans, then it would be pretty awesome, but there's a business purpose behind it that helps Lionsgate profit at the filmmakers expense. I might have discovered what is going on, trying to see if I can firm up everything before reporting. This is CRAZY.

JGrayland
9:08pm, July 30, 2008

It's not even playing all the dollar theaters... we have plenty of 2nd run theaters in LA, but the only place it's playing is in Norwalk, which is like an hours' drive east.

korollocke
9:14pm, July 30, 2008

sounds like a tax write off or an excuse to say horror doesn't make any money so they can drop it all together and produce emo porn.

Hedcold
9:18pm, July 30, 2008

Its playing at the 1$ movies on Friday here in Arizona also, Definitely gonna see it, I'm not gonna complain as I'm tight on money right now.

Sean of the Dead
9:22pm, July 30, 2008

Why doesn't live Barker just sue Lionsgate and sell teh rights to teh film to a different dsitributor?! I would they raped his contract!

zach
9:22pm, July 30, 2008

What a strange move. I'm not sure how the theater business works in terms of getting a film played in a particular place, but it seems like a bad business decision to dump it into discount theaters upon release. At least, on the upside, maybe this will encourage people to check it out since they don't have to pay 75 dollars a ticket.

wizzack
9:27pm, July 30, 2008

DOLLAR THEATER? i aint seen one of them since 1987!

djblack1313
9:28pm, July 30, 2008

MrDisgusting, THANK YOU very much for looking in to this travesty! this is just not right what LG is doing here.

Devil-Josh
9:39pm, July 30, 2008

This is fucking bullshit with a capitol B. The local theater ?I/ attend here in Brooklyn, NY, had a poster for this film and I was all geeked to see it. 2 weeks ago when I went to see The Dark Knight, the poster was gone and they told me at the box office that the movie was pulled at the last minute. Does anyone know if anyplace in NY City is getting this? I swear it seems like horror has been nil at the box office this year.

HorrorFan101
9:41pm, July 30, 2008

WHAT OMG that is retarted ive been waiting for this movie for like over a year. Now its not even going to come to our theater well i dont know if it would have come to our theater (a Galaxy theater in our small and crappy mall in St.Thomas Ontario). Are there even dollar theaters, i have never heard of those. And this movie looks like it could bring in some big bucks to. I mean Vinnie Jones, Bradley Cooper, and Brooke Shields. COME ON

spookydan
9:41pm, July 30, 2008

Its my understanding that Lionsgate was contractually obliged to release the film in 100 theaters. So those wacky executives decided to say fuck you to Clive Barker and his fans. The worst part is even if it was going into REAL theaters, they woukd probably mess with the numbers and call it a loss. I will write more about this in my blog later tonight SD

demogorgon
9:42pm, July 30, 2008

yup, this is some bogus douchebaggery!!

djblack1313
9:42pm, July 30, 2008

Devil-Josh, go to boxofficemojo.com. that's where i found out it was coming to Seattle. i DO believe it's coming to at least 1 theater in NY.

djblack1313
9:44pm, July 30, 2008

Devil-Josh, i read on another site, that it's ONLY coming to a theater in Rochester.

deadlover
9:47pm, July 30, 2008

bullshitbullshitbullshit

addatradeline.com
9:49pm, July 30, 2008

This is insane. The filmmakers should sue the bloody crap out of LG. I know I would if they tried to pull this on me.

noth1ng
9:50pm, July 30, 2008

An Ohio dollar theater is also getting it.

Sean of the Dead
9:50pm, July 30, 2008

That's ridiculous, this would have made like 18 million over teh weekend if it was well advertised. It would perform like Thestrangers, I would have imagined. Lionsgate suck.

BloodyCape
9:54pm, July 30, 2008

so the movie's THAT bad?

Horror_Luva
9:54pm, July 30, 2008

What the fuck?! They're doing this to The Midnight Meat Train, they're messing with REPO! too.. I guess we are all screwed =(

djblack1313
9:57pm, July 30, 2008

BloodyCape, just about every review i've read for this movie said it's EXCELLENT.

silentbill
10:00pm, July 30, 2008

Several theaters in my area had MMT listed as "coming soon" until yesterday, when I started checking for showtimes. As of right now, all of those theaters pulled the listings, and it is now only opening in one dollar theater in Pittsburgh and one in Youngstown, Ohio. I have to believe this is - at least in part - a big "Fuck You" from LionsGate in response to Clive Barker trying to mobilize fans over the past few weeks to get this film a proper release. Fans REALLY need to remember this and skip Saw 5 when it opens in October. If LionsGate shows us no love, why should we show them any?

Devil-Josh
10:00pm, July 30, 2008

Fucking Rochester? Jesus H Christ you know this is fucking funny. For a town that used to play all of John Water's films, I drink your Blood, I spit on your Grave, and every porno known to man, someplace here in the city would have gotten this. Fucking arrrggg. And what do we get for a horror movie this year...Fucking Saw 5? Christ Lions Gate was badass and released House of 1000 Corpses when nobody wanted to release it! I usually don't get mad like this over a movie but this has chapped my ass to leather!

gibb424
10:09pm, July 30, 2008

I have to take a 30 min bus ride to the $1 theater in a shitty suburb to see this movie.. but Saw 5 will hit 3,000+ theaters... this is crap

JGrayland
10:10pm, July 30, 2008

LG is the new Dimension... except instead of fucking with the film's content, they fuck with the release. Doing same thing to Repo, Burrowers...

demogorgon
10:12pm, July 30, 2008

i emailed lionsgate earlier... ok, we emailed you and asked you nicely to let us watch the midnight meat train with a wide screen release, and what do you do? you release it to discount and dollar movie theaters in the darkest dingiest corners of our nation! that's how you want to treat your customers? ok, that's fine, but from here on out any movie with lionsgate on it belongs in the dollar theater. i've never heard of a film getting released to discount theaters! this is the dumbest way of distributing movies and running a business i can think of. hopefully more people are fed up with these kinds of corporate business shenanigans and will feel the way i feel about it. good luck in the future, may you go bankrupt asap! lionsgate is dead to me and i will spend many hours convincing others that your distribution company is a joke!

djblack1313
10:23pm, July 30, 2008

well said, demogorgon.

nricexbox
10:24pm, July 30, 2008

This is beyond lame! I just hit IMDB and typed in like 7 random big cities across the US and gave each a 50 mile radius...3 theaters! I love the movies that Lionsgate releases but this is a slap in the face to Clive Barker and us fans. Does LGF know its messing with Pandora's Box?

insain9876
10:26pm, July 30, 2008

I checked, and here in Dallas it is opening Friday in $1 theaters. This doesn't make sense. I have never seen a new movie put in this situation, and all I can think of is that someone involved with this movie pissed off the distributor. The company must want to make their money back, but they can only be making a few cents per ticket at a $1 theater.....something is going on.

mr. sujuka
10:27pm, July 30, 2008

We live in central CA, and it's playing in the $2 Cinemark Movies 12 theater in Lancaster beginning on Friday. This is a less-than-two-hour drive from L.A. up quiet Hwy 14 for anyone down there who'd like to see it.

deadlover
10:29pm, July 30, 2008

I mean, I guess I'd rather have have them fuck with the distribution than with the films content, but that's just the lesser of 2 evils. this fucking sux. I'm all for a lionsgate boycott.

H200
10:31pm, July 30, 2008

Forgive me if this has already been reported here, but from what I read (according to Eiga-Hiho magazine last month) the new head of Liongsgate of whom I forgot his name, hates horror and wants to give the studio a new image so he's giving Midnight the worst possible release, and not a direct to DVD but a theatrical one since it's in the contract. Probably, Saw 5 was safe since the franchise has been so popular.

Hurmoth
10:34pm, July 30, 2008

I use to have so much respect for Lionsgate because of their horror background, but now I see they're no better than Universal or Sony Pictures. This and Repo both deserve a full release, but to go as far as to put this in dollar theaters is just a slap in the face. BOOO to Lionsgate!

americangods
10:35pm, July 30, 2008

What could Clive Barker have done to deserve this? The only explanation that comes to mind is if he actually did something to piss off the producers or studio. The last I heard the reviews for the movie were great, so why treat it like the bastard of your 2008 lineup? You play teasers for it along with wide release movies and then give us something worst than a limited release. I thought their handling of Repo was bad, but at least they mentioned a DVD release date with that one. This, on the other hand, is them intentionally pissing us off. This isn't just incompetence. This is cruelty.

deadlover
10:38pm, July 30, 2008

meaning don't support Bangkok Dangerous, Disaster Movie, Religulous, or My Best Friends Girl. What a sacrifice.

deadlover
10:38pm, July 30, 2008

or Saw 5. (duh.)

Sean of the Dead
10:40pm, July 30, 2008

Lionsgate.com does not list the film anywhere. They are trying to disown it. The filsm website hasn't even been updated since it launched. I think the campaign Clive Barker started pissed off that new manager at Lionsgate. What a waste of money.

Devil-Josh
10:43pm, July 30, 2008

To quote Booger from Revenge of the Nerds. "I say we blow the fuckers up!"

demogorgon
10:44pm, July 30, 2008

that campaign he started, i say we crank it up a notch!

Sean of the Dead
10:50pm, July 30, 2008

Why don't all us boycott Saw V? I will just watch it for free as I work ina cinema. But I will enver support Lionsgate unless there's something worth it and apart from Midnight Meat Train there isnt.

Devil-Josh
10:50pm, July 30, 2008

I still say we blow the fuckers up.

DJ 808
10:52pm, July 30, 2008

Sigh!!! Unbelivable....it's not even playing in NYC. just in one theater in upstate NY. Well the good reviews I've read so far will have me preordering it on amazon I guess.

demogorgon
10:52pm, July 30, 2008

how about waiting to see saw v till it goes to the dollar theater!!

Teddy T
10:52pm, July 30, 2008

Dick movie by Lionsgate. They should hurry up and release it on dvd so that people can actually get to see it.

djblack1313
10:55pm, July 30, 2008

we can only assume the DVD release will be THE most barebones, full screen(just to piss of widescreen fans) release.

Devil-Josh
11:01pm, July 30, 2008

Fuck it, I'm going to do something I've never done before and buying myself a bootleg for $3.00 from a Chinaman.. Then we blow the fuckers up!

deadlover
11:01pm, July 30, 2008

this is such an immature move from lionsgate. I mean it doesn't even seem to make financial sense.

demogorgon
11:04pm, July 30, 2008

they're flipping us off and saying 'what are you gonna do about it?'

spookydan
11:08pm, July 30, 2008

Everyone. Please Digg this post. lets get the masses to now about it!

Devil-Josh
11:09pm, July 30, 2008

I'm seriously thinking of finding out where the NY office is pulling some of my own MMT on those assholes. I can do it in the name of Jihad, lol. We have every right to be pissed off about this and if they want to ban me from this site for saying my piece then goddamn it fucking do it because we the horror lovers of America will not stand down!

Devil-Josh
11:13pm, July 30, 2008

Sorry for the rants guys this just chaps my ass.

foofighter24
11:18pm, July 30, 2008

I am very curious as to how Lion's Gate benefits from a small release to dollar theaters. I look forward to Mr. D's follow up piece.

djblack1313
11:18pm, July 30, 2008

Devil-Josh, we are angry right there with you. Lionsgate literally said to Clive (and the makers of the film) and to us horror fans, "FUCK YOU".

Devil-Josh
11:21pm, July 30, 2008

I respect Barker and now I'm worring what will happen to Book of Blood.

markmywords85
11:32pm, July 30, 2008

Utterly disgusting. I live in northern NJ and was planning a trip with at least 4 friends to go see this wherever it was, Philly, NYC, Baltimore, wherever. Hell, sometimes I get really lucky and my local arthouse theater gets it. Typed in my zip code and boxofficemojo informed me that the closest theater was 160 miles away in the middle of Pennsylvania. And the release there is delayed until next Wednesday! After buying the DVD of MMT and Repo (if it lives up to the hype), I'm done with this Lionsgate bullshit. Unbelievable!

djblack1313
11:36pm, July 30, 2008

check out this clip of Barker introducing the movie for a screening at Fantasia(?). he mentions LG trying to stop the release!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zACW5gZUI

Devil-Josh
11:38pm, July 30, 2008

I was actually going to avoid seeing The Mummy 3 this weekend in order to see this film. I cannot get over enough how angry this makes me.

zach
11:38pm, July 30, 2008

So can anyone explain how it makes financial sense for Lionsgate to do this? I can't really figure that out.

IrvingWallace
11:40pm, July 30, 2008

Recently met the screenwriter, who is really frickin cool and nice as all hell. He reported that this is a battle between the original owner of lionsgate (who was totally backing the film and behind it all the way) and the new owner who has replaced him who has a personal vendetta against the original owner. He's takin all funding from promotion and has stuck the movie in little theatres. For those of you like me who live in Los Angeles, MMT is playing at the Nuart on the 15th at midnight in santa monica, its on fandango but you cant buy advanced tickets (of course). I also met clive the other day, he didnt mention MMT but he was really frickin nice, these filmmakers do not deserve this! they put all their passion, time and money into this and we, horror fans all want to see it! lionsgate is now bullshit, because of this new owner.

BloodFlow
11:43pm, July 30, 2008

WOW THIS IS FUCKED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A FUCKING SLAP IN THE FACE. THIS SHIT IS NOT RIGHT!FUCK LIONSGATE! WTF!!!!!!!

deadlover
11:47pm, July 30, 2008

bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit

djblack1313
11:47pm, July 30, 2008

poor Clive! he does NOT deserve to be treated this way (well, nobody does --except maybe LG!). i met him back when i lived in W.Hollywood CA. he was SO nice and friendly when he came into the video store where i worked (Video West on Larrabee st), that he gave me premiere passes to Hellraiser 3. what a generous and kind man.

aj91892
11:51pm, July 30, 2008

what the hell is going on!!!!!!!! has LionsGate lost their fucking minds? there has to be a reason behind this madness....but theres nothing that i can think of that would make any sense at all

Devil-Josh
11:53pm, July 30, 2008

Fucking politics...Isn't that the way it always is, guys? Fucking politics. We the fans are made to suffer over some kiddy bullshit like this. I was on Talkblogradio tonite and I expressed my anger to some people there about what happened and the fans there only assumed the film was being delayed. When I told them the shit that was happening, I made a point to let the guys from Movie Geeks Unite know the kind of shit that's being done to us.

slasher_12
11:58pm, July 30, 2008

FUCK Lionsgate. All they care about is money. Actually not EVEN that makes sense, because if they wanted money, this would be opening wide....it's VERY confusing.

danifilth1985
12:00am, July 31, 2008

This IS NOT opening anywhere in Chicago...this blows dick...

shattered68
12:02am, July 31, 2008

I am NEVER buying a ticket (or the DVD) to a Lionsgate film ever again.

addatradeline.com
12:02am, July 31, 2008

I noticed 3 new dollar type theatres in Socal showing this, in Norwalk, and temecula. tickets aren't available yet on movietickets.com, but it looks like the theatre in Norwalk is showing it on 2 screens. Coming from south orange county, I wouldn't want to drive 3 hours in traffic to lancaster to see it, but Norwalk or temecula is doable. No midnight thursday showings though? What the hell?!

shattered68
12:03am, July 31, 2008

FUCK LIONSGATE!!!! I PISS ON THEIR CORPORATE DOUCHEBAG CORPSES!!!

addatradeline.com
12:04am, July 31, 2008

oh yea, there's a theatre in Moreno valley showing this as well.

slapyou
12:05am, July 31, 2008

this is fucking ridiculous. all Lionsgate cares about is their fucking Saw movies. way to throw away all the potential they had. dickholes.

oducerproducer
12:09am, July 31, 2008

Lionsgate, fuck Saw, Meat Train & Repo is where it's at.

A. Bet DeCretin
12:10am, July 31, 2008

I live in Minnesota and the only place it's playing in the state is at the Brookdale 8 Discount Theatre in Brooklyn Center.

shattered68
12:23am, July 31, 2008

Apparently it is playing at the Nuart on Santa Monica Blvd. on Friday Night at the midnight show. I assume it will be the 10.00 admisssion.

chepe516
12:26am, July 31, 2008

Yeah, wtf is Lionsgate doing? Like everybody else mentioned, I've heard nothing but great reviews. This sucks, and I was planning on seeing it on my off day, this Friday.

demogorgon
12:36am, July 31, 2008

i checked joe drake's imdb page and he's the exec producer of several horror films coming up, including drag me to hell. sam raimi heads up or you'll be selling venues in the dollar theaters, too. i thought someone said he doesn't like horror but he's producing alot of it! not to mention alot of bullshit drama!!

Devil-Josh
12:44am, July 31, 2008

Swear the movie industry is all fucked up these days.

djblack1313
12:46am, July 31, 2008

unfotunately, he's producing, GET THIS EVERYONE, The Grudge 3, Boogeyman 3 (as well as some others. well THESE 2 movies are MUCH better than MMT.

Blood-Sicles
12:53am, July 31, 2008

I've done searches and it hits a few Cinemarks in Dallas and a nice theater in Little Rock. Wish it would hit the new indie theater in Shreveport, La, but I'll go the extra 4 hours to see it. This is so retarded. Horror boxoffice got them where they are today and if they think they can fucking bite the hand that fed them, they better fucking think twice! Tyler Perry movies will only make money until they burn everyone out on it. Then what do they have? A bunch of angry horror fans.

Devil-Josh
1:09am, July 31, 2008

We need to do a Million Man March but with horror fans.

Blood-Sicles
1:12am, July 31, 2008

Lol. The Million Fan March? :P

slasher_12
1:13am, July 31, 2008

I guess we can forget about this coming to Canada! assholes!

Devil-Josh
1:16am, July 31, 2008

You know, this is going to make you guys laugh but I had a mild stroke a few weeks back and I've been calm, cool, collected, and relaxed since...Something as trivial as this has got my blood pressure so jacked up that I could have another episode.....Over a goddamn movie but dammit we've been getting screwed for too long.

Kid Bosco
1:17am, July 31, 2008

THis is fucking sad!! FUCK YOU LG, MAY YOU REST IN PIECES!

Kid Bosco
1:18am, July 31, 2008

Devil-Josh, be healthy!! =/

Devil-Josh
1:27am, July 31, 2008

I'll live. Kinda sad and funny how something as simple as a movie could get me so worked up....But sometimes.

Slasher Freak
1:28am, July 31, 2008

I can't believe this movie is having so much trouble. WHY THE FUCK!?

deadlover
1:48am, July 31, 2008

Every ones sending an email or 2, right? I know I am.

billbeast
2:06am, July 31, 2008

So by this only getting limited release in the US, this means it wont go theatrical in Australia. I've been waiting for it's release frever and i want it to make as much money as possible. Lionsgate, im dissapointed

Justin_Voorhees
2:12am, July 31, 2008

Ya Josh be cool....I'll make these assholes pay...

REChrisRedfield
2:16am, July 31, 2008

This is almost as bad as Trick R Treat!

Devil-Josh
2:32am, July 31, 2008

I was thinking the same thing, RE....Whatever happened to Trick or Treat? Swear what's the big ass deal of releasing all these movies? Hell give the movie to Tromma and have them release it. At least Lloyd Kaufman would have people dressed as the characters and doing shows and really going Ballyhoo on the entire thing.

appleOFdiscord
3:33am, July 31, 2008

Clive Barker must have pissed em off BIG TIME if they are moving in such sleazy ways. I say FUCK you Lionsgate, i would MUCH rather see Midnight Meat Train in a normal cinema than the same old Saw sequels. I live in Europe so i guess that means we might not even get a proper R2 DVD release????? WTF?

slasher_12
3:39am, July 31, 2008

This will be the LAST time clive works with LG lmao!!!! I hope he tells all his director friends...to stay away. BY BYE Lionsgate....the GATEs have closen.

Devil-Josh
3:42am, July 31, 2008

See everybody is getting hit by this shit and as usualy the media could care less because they're too worried about Shia getting busted for his DUI!

slasher_12
3:42am, July 31, 2008

By the way, whoever has MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN playing near them, better go see it about 10 TIMES! And tell EVERYONE you know to do the same. Let's show Lionsgate that MEAT TRAIN will make millions, even if only in 100 theaters!! Than they'll have to expand it won't they?

6dark6lotus6
3:49am, July 31, 2008

My messages have been sent. I fully support this cause.. Lionsgate has been going downhill in the decision-making department, as of late. Truely a shame that something like this is happening.

6dark6lotus6
4:00am, July 31, 2008

Apparently the "keasterling@lionsgate.com" e-mail is no longer working. I just had the e-mail returned to me. :/

rusted31
4:04am, July 31, 2008

What a fucking travesty!!! MMT would have resurrected Clive Barker films and this movie looks the business , has a good cast and all and being released like this. Shame, shame shame LG.

SaintSadistic
4:19am, July 31, 2008

Sweet, it's playing 15 minutes away from my house.

Avaya
4:26am, July 31, 2008

"We reported awhile back that the film was slated..." Stated, it was stated.

MrDisgusting
5:33am, July 31, 2008

We've been digging all night, got some leads. Have some interviews planned for tomorrow and are going to try and get word from Drake himself. Hopefully we won't be bringing you a "no comment"

showa58taro
7:26am, July 31, 2008

I'm willing to bet they finally realized that a horror movie like this might not bring in the crowds and so they're trying to recoup their losses. :P

BloodFlow
7:32am, July 31, 2008

FUCKED UP!!! I'd rather see this over that over rated SAW garbage (which by the way ENDED in part 3). This is so messed up. I've met Clive myself several times and he really is THE NICEST man in the world. I don't get it. I am fucking pissed.

Sean of the Dead
7:43am, July 31, 2008

showa58taro, you think this is less profitable than Prom Night and films like that? I can't wait to read those interviews! This is so interesting.

AnalogPussy
8:01am, July 31, 2008

I can't find it playing in a single theater in Vancouver.

horrorfan25
8:21am, July 31, 2008

This sucks. No this doesn't suck. It's SUCKS. Clive Barker is a masterpiece at horror films and even he is upset. What director wouldn't be angry if his film didn't play in "big screen glory"? If they can put crap movies like 'Epic movie' and 'Date movie' in theaters why can't they even put in the good movies anyway? America is strange. But sadly none of this theaters are where I'm playing. I'M MAD

demogorgon
8:24am, July 31, 2008

ya financially, this doesn't make sense. discount theater $1.75, regular theater $7.00. that means they are losing $5.25 every time they sell a ticket. $17.50 for 10 people to see as opposed to $70.00? how do you "recoup their loses" like this?? i'm thinkning about buying extra tickets, maybe 3 or 4, up to the price of a regular ticket. of course my gf scowls at me for saying this ($$$), but it's the principle that matters...

demogorgon
8:30am, July 31, 2008

they're treating this movie like "springtime for hitler"

horrorchick81
8:39am, July 31, 2008

WHAT! nothing in pa?!?! i hate lionsgate......me and a buddy on here were talking and he was saying like it seems like they only put up saw franchise to make the money...im sorry but i only seen saw 1-2 (didnt see three and four) but those flicks are gory as heck and i compare it to mmt it dont compaire to me saw is alot more bloodier than mmt........this sucks!!!...i guess our letters to lionsgate didnt matter to those sobs.....i hope this film bombs and then lions gate would maybe start and get the picture.

DevilNeverCry81
9:12am, July 31, 2008

Wasn't the scoop on this that the new head at Lionsgate shafted this movie in favor of giving a film he personally produced (with a rival studio) "The Strangers" a better non-competitive slot? Bumping the movie back to an undetermined 2009 date gave "The Strangers" an opportunity to make 60 million (on it's 9 million budget). This "Dollar Theater" scenario also sounds like Lionsgate was CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED to release this film theatrically, and to minimize costs associated with wide releasing a movie, they only released the film in a handful of smaller discount theaters. That way they can actually make a small amount of money without spending a lot, meanwhile the film will be on DVD by Halloween.

BerserkrQueen
9:20am, July 31, 2008

I have been looking forward to this movie all summer. Now if I want to go see it, I have to drive four hours to Rochester.

DevilNeverCry81
9:21am, July 31, 2008

The producer is Joseph Drake. He is the head at Lionsgate. He also produced "The Strangers". Conflict of Interests Anyone? "The Strangers" was a Rogue/Universal release.

nohandtyper
9:30am, July 31, 2008

Did anybody else have a problem sending to the first address? I got an email notification of an error sending it there. Any ideas?

abe_the_cop
10:14am, July 31, 2008

>Did anybody else have a problem sending to the first address? I got an email notification of an error sending it there. Any ideas? Yeah keasterling@lionsgate.com got send back. is there a petition going around? I was assuming I'd be able to see this on friday (living in a major city and all) but by the looks of it my friday is open. I'm pretty pissed

Chainsaw in the Ass
10:18am, July 31, 2008

Fuck-fucketee-fuk-fuk!! I've been waiting for this movie for months!! DAMN YOU!!!! >:(

BloodFlow
10:44am, July 31, 2008

Of course it isn't showing in NYC...those $1 theatres went out in the 80's. GOD DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOUUUUUUU Lions GAte and FUCK your ri-cock-ulous SAW franchise. Oooh they are going to hear my mouth...I'll be polite, of course (as per Clive's request).

BloodyCape
11:07am, July 31, 2008

LOINSGATE>FANS....end of transmission.

zombienut07
11:29am, July 31, 2008

hey guys at BD i live in south bend, indiana and i just found out that the dollar theater bout a 20 min drive from me is playing midnight meat train so if you want to put this theater its called Cinemark University Park 6

halloweengal81
11:32am, July 31, 2008

here are a couple more theaters getting it all cinemarks (mansfield cinema 10, columbus carriage place movies 12, north canton movies 10)

halloweengal81
11:33am, July 31, 2008

duh and they are all in ohio

halloweengal81
11:34am, July 31, 2008

i am a little disappointed but i work at a discount theater and i am happy we are getting it. our theater used to be a 1st run until our new theater opened in town so our theater is nice and i get in free so if the movie sucks i am not out anything (not like a dollar would hurt)

Skcumfuvker25
11:42am, July 31, 2008

this is udder bullshit.

wolves ate the king
11:52am, July 31, 2008

what is lionsgate thinking? it won't make much money being coming out in the summer, but i think that it is great that it is coming out in the summer and i don't have to wait for winter to set in for some good horror. plus this movie will most likly be overshadowed by The Dark Knight. then there only going to release it in secind run theaters. are they trying to lose money?

deadlover
11:52am, July 31, 2008

thanks to Mr Disgusting, and the other reporters who are working to figure out what's going on for us.

joseph kamiya
12:07pm, July 31, 2008

I received an error message from keasterling@lionsgate.com ~ apparently the user doesn't exist... or perhaps they're ignoring what the general populous is demanding from them? Who knows.

rockandhorror83
12:10pm, July 31, 2008

im totally boycotting Lionsgate, fuck the SAW franchise, they'd rather keep releasing that unoriginal garbage than release what the REAL horror fans want to see.

Zombie_Don
12:15pm, July 31, 2008

sounds like clive pissed someone off bigtime. I didnt even know there was $1 theaters.

Jacques
12:15pm, July 31, 2008

Sorry to break it to all of you but: The Midnight Meat Train IS THE CHEESIEST MOVIE I HAVE SEEN IN YEARS. Cannibalism? They make fun of that on cartoons, people. Cut-away "gore" scenes? I thought we grew out of that when we were five. Why are they not having a studio release? Because people like me, who don't just see a "hardcore horror" tag and jump on the bandwagon, would laugh it off the screen. Use your brains, people. It's a kid's movie with a little blood thrown around. That's why there is no major release.

DevilNeverCry81
12:17pm, July 31, 2008

Again, this is what I heard: The new head at Lionsgate shafted this movie in favor of giving a film he personally produced (with a rival studio) "The Strangers" a better non-competitive slot? Bumping the movie back to an undetermined 2009 date gave "The Strangers" an opportunity to make 60 million (on it's 9 million budget). This "Dollar Theater" scenario also sounds like Lionsgate was CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED to release this film theatrically, and to minimize costs associated with wide releasing a movie, they only released the film in a handful of smaller discount theaters. That way they can actually make a small amount of money without spending a lot, meanwhile the film will be on DVD by Halloween.

celticogam
12:56pm, July 31, 2008

Sometimes Movie companies will write of a movie simply so they can avoid the tax. The may speculate on the movies max box office earnings and see it would be cheaper to write it off. These movies usually end up on limited release or straight to DvD.

elbastardo1b
1:02pm, July 31, 2008

It's showing at the Palm Cinema III in Lakeland, Fl. A true shit theater!!!

shattered68
1:02pm, July 31, 2008

LIONSGATE BLOWS!!

JonnyRotten
1:14pm, July 31, 2008

Does anyone know of any places in the mid-west that it is showing?

JonnyRotten
1:27pm, July 31, 2008

Nevermind, its showing at the Danberry Dollar Savers in Cincinnati

Truly Twisted
1:46pm, July 31, 2008

It's showing at the Cinemark Stockyards 8 theater in Omaha, NE as well.

Jacques
3:15pm, July 31, 2008

I'd still love to know why everyone is so upset. It's just another unoriginal, lame, un-gory cannibalism movie. Go watch the SpongeBob epasode where SpongeBob tries to eat Patrick and you'll see more gore than in this lame cut-away-camera movie. I have friends who hate horror movies who I show this update to and they even laugh at the cheesiness. My 48-year-old mother, who can't handle some PG-13 movies, even laughed at the movie. What is everyone so worked up about? IT IS NOTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE A THOUSAND TIMES.

deadlover
3:23pm, July 31, 2008

So I've sent 4 emails.

horrorguy88
4:22pm, July 31, 2008

K i was on this canadian movie site. And apparently we are getting it tommrorow and it didnt say in limited. So...

djblack1313
4:27pm, July 31, 2008

Jacques, how did you and your "48 year old mother" see it? and if it's "SO cheesy" and we're ridiculous for getting upset about all of this, then why are you posting here and "showing this update to your friends"? do you have NOTHING better to do? get over yourself, if you (actually saw the movie) didn't like the movie, then fine. you don't have to be a dick about it.

crossbones
4:29pm, July 31, 2008

I think this will be the last time the horror genre will ever trust Lionsgate. Fuck those bastards!

JGrayland
4:43pm, July 31, 2008

Hey Jacques... either you're lying out of your ass, or you work for LG. Either way, you're completely wrong. There's plenty of gore, and it's not even really a cannibal movie.

MessiahRp
4:45pm, July 31, 2008

Does this mean this will be on DVD by Halloween? This sucks big time but I am still going to go out and see it and pick up the DVD to support it. Lionsgate can bite me. Rp

djblack1313
4:55pm, July 31, 2008

JGrayland, he must be full of it. either that or he's just an A$$hole.

spookydan
5:11pm, July 31, 2008

I really wish I could post the things that Lionsgate is saying about the horror fans (off the record) to us! You would all be FURIOUS!!! I am literally shaking in anger after hearing what they (she) said. We are talking to a BUNCH of people, but Lionsgate has officially made no comment as of yet. This whole thing is way bigger than just Midnight Meat Train. Its has to do with Lionsgate truly messing with the genre. SD

Devil-Josh
5:13pm, July 31, 2008

I'm still going to buy a bootleg from one of the many vendors when I go downtown Brooklyn, tomorrow. Those guys seem to find the oddest flicks and sell them for 5.00

djblack1313
5:19pm, July 31, 2008

spookydan, i'm in disbelief! i can't believe the fucktards at LG is literally telling us (in so many words) to "FUCK OFF". will you ever be able to tell us what they are saying? thanx again for looking in to the situation for us!

shattered68
5:24pm, July 31, 2008

If Lionsgate doesn't want my money, then fuck them! And Jacques sounds like he is on crack. It sounds like he was talking about the Prom Night remake...

djblack1313
5:30pm, July 31, 2008

shattered68, i know, right?!?!

demogorgon
5:51pm, July 31, 2008

damn SD! let's get some guy fawkes masks and go to town!

shattered68
5:53pm, July 31, 2008

djblack, right on!! Jacques needs to let his mother watch "Inside"!

Wharmon
5:54pm, July 31, 2008

Lionsgate was started by Robert Altman, an indy moviemaker. More than a decade ago the company was sold to an investment banker. You can guess how an investment banker thinks, can't you? Regardless, it costs money to get a movie distributed. Lots of money. "One of" the bigger reasons this is happening is because it costs significantly less money to get a movie shown in a bargain theatre. Hell, I've had 2 birthday parties at dollar theatres. How do you think they can charge so little for admission? So they have little hope for the movie and/or a vendetta of their own and this is a way for them to minimize distribution costs while still fulfilling a contractual obligation to the makers and producers of the movie. It's no less fucked up for it, but that's what it is. It happens to movies "all the time." I'd love to be able to complain about their treatment of the fans (being one myself), but these people are part of a "business," an "industry." They are not a charity. Otherwise, they'd be giving us what we want.

demogorgon
6:15pm, July 31, 2008

ya, that means don't give them your money.

nw_kiff
6:49pm, July 31, 2008

Let us all get together and pray Dimension Extreme expands into theatrical releases

MrDisgusting
6:52pm, July 31, 2008

Oh man.... what a morning. Let me leave it at that for now.

djblack1313
6:54pm, July 31, 2008

Wharmon, i understand what you're saying, but i've NEVER (not once) heard of a new movie being released to dollar cinema's. have you? it's pretty clear that it's NOT just about them trying to minimalize losing money. it's about LG saying "FUCK OFF" to Clive and US.

demogorgon
7:26pm, July 31, 2008

Clive Barker : "I have been dragged in the last few weeks into an area which I had very much wanted to be liberated from. And I let myself be dragged in because I'm angry and I'm angry on behalf, mainly, of Mr Kitamura. I mean, we'll make other movies, he will make other movies but this one was his first US picture. I mean, this is the picture he came from Tokyo - with his family - to make, he relocated and he's made a fucking great picture that deserves to be seen by a larger audience and on a bigger screen than it is now going to be allowed to be. And I think that it is a shameful thing for Joe Drake to be responsible for. And this man is no friend to artists, that is for sure, and I would always like to think of myself as being a friend to my fellow artists and so that was chiefly the reason I jumped on board this - I could not bear to see this being kicked around when so much love and care, not just from Kitamura but from DiBlasi and Daley and all the others who have put their love and devotion into the thing and it's just become a political football."

demogorgon
7:27pm, July 31, 2008

Revelations : "And not the only one in Hollywood - it's not an unfamiliar story, is it?" Clive Barker : "No, and it's not the only one at Lionsgate - there are nine movies, Sarah, that were all part of Peter Block's projected Anthony Head in Repo! releases - one of them is Repo! which is a horror musical scripted by the guy who made three of the Saw pictures - he had to fight to get five screens! He eventually got them, but he had to fight. You're absolutely right, Sarah, it is a very old, sad story and it's one of the reasons why I walked away. But when an artist, a fellow artist is violated in this way - by a pencil-pusher - I'm going to stand up and be counted. And I think you would think less of me if I didn't." http://www.clivebarker.info/intsrevel22.ht ml

shattered68
7:32pm, July 31, 2008

Djblack...I agree. Even fucking "Gigli" wasn't released in dollar theatres!!!

Devil-Josh
7:43pm, July 31, 2008

(Booger) I still say we blow the fuckers up.

djblack1313
7:54pm, July 31, 2008

demogorgon, thanx for posting that Clive interview. he's just an amazing guy. his integrity and loyalty is such a hard to find commodity. Clive you and Mr Kitamura deserve better than LG. and there are so many studios/companies WAY BETTER than LG. the Weinstein's are fucking better than LG (and that's not easy for me to say! LOL).

Wharmon
8:50pm, July 31, 2008

Actually, I've heard of "plenty" of movies being released to dollar theatres on their first run. We'd just never expect to see such a thing happen to a movie of such high profile.

Wharmon
8:52pm, July 31, 2008

But then, this isn't about me or what I've heard of. And Lionsgate is the enemy here, not me.

djblack1313
9:19pm, July 31, 2008

that's true. i wasn't trying to be argumentative or anything. LG IS the topic here. :)

Trisha2617
11:43pm, July 31, 2008

Its playing at the Indianapolis $1 theatres too!! I am going to go see it..but this is BULL-SHIT!!

BloodFlow
12:19am, August 1, 2008

Mr. Disgusting...we know you have an update!!! Spill it man!!! lol This shit is so fucking unfair.

DJ 808
1:06am, August 1, 2008

MMT " i want to belive."

MrDisgusting
1:57am, August 1, 2008

Hey, we talked with the director, a producer and are trying to get Clive. The story might not break until next week. Something we discovered (and as much as it hurts) is that even if every single showing of the film sells out the movie is f**ked. I was thinking of organizing a campaign to sell tickets, since they're only a $1, and getting everyone to buy some... but in the end it would do no good and everyone would have just wasted their money. We are getting close to something... there's IS something here I think, even though Lionsgate tells me I'm reporting a "non-story". I guess time will tell won't it? I'm trying my best... this is scary, and difficult.

MrDisgusting
2:02am, August 1, 2008

In response to Jacques "IT IS NOTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE A THOUSAND TIMES." It's very true, and that's really not an issue at all. If Lionsgate and Lakeshore decide to dump a movie it is up to them. We'll eventually get it on DVD. What I am interested in is the fact that the movie is opening in $1 theaters after it was said to me they were contractually obligated to open the film in theaters. So that means Lionsgate must have a reason for wanting it to make LESS money. That's what we're investigating. Why would you want your movie to do even worse financially?

deadlover
3:17am, August 1, 2008

We appreciate your digging, good sir.

chepe516
5:08am, August 1, 2008

I already sent my e-mails. F'n Lionsgate, why would they do this? $1 ticket movie theaters? Looks like I'll have to wait for the DVD release. Same goes for Repo!

rusted31
6:31am, August 1, 2008

Get back at LG and boycott their future releases,including Saw 5. This is a fucking joke.

djblack1313
8:43am, August 1, 2008

MrDisgusting, thanx again for investigating this for us! i anxiously wait the results of what you found out.

cubanMIX
9:47am, August 1, 2008

alright dude seriously,this investigation is cool but aint gonna do us no good..just give us some answers,this bullshit teasing you are doing isnt cool at all,its not that big of a deal to just keep it from us,you act like this is some monumental event,just stop dicking us around.."story might not break until next week" yeah next week we wont give a shit,next week we are gonna be waiting for Mirrors

redassphault
10:38am, August 1, 2008

it is also playing in green bay, wi. at the budget cinema in the east town mall, so if you live in the area please come to my theater and support this unjustly overlooked film. you won't be sorry.

zombiecenobite
11:16am, August 1, 2008

this is playing at Cinemark Movies 10 in Lynchburg VA and I am fucking going. I liked alot of Lionsgate's previous releases, hell, I still enjoy the Saw films, but this really pisses me off. I hope they don't pull this shit with Repo...

sethdlh
11:39am, August 1, 2008

this is rediculous, definatly a let down.

Zombie_Don
12:22pm, August 1, 2008

Anyone know where this is playing in NJ?

markmywords85
1:10pm, August 1, 2008

Don - as far as I know (fellow NJ resident), it isn't playing in NJ. Closest theater I was directed to was in the middle of PA and opening on Wednesday.

Hivesenated
4:00pm, August 1, 2008

I confirm this aswell. The film opened today at the discount theater in my city (Moreno Valley, CA) Its $2 matinee & $3 night Well ... atleast we got it.

morphous12
5:34pm, August 1, 2008

I am in Los Angeles and I found 2 theaters nearby that are showing MMT. One in La Mirada and one in Norwalk. Me and my girfriend are die hard horror fans and we are going to see it tonight. We only have a 20 minute drive. We are lucky to at least have the opportunity to see it on the big screen, but I have to say, it's a damn shame that this film is getting this kind of shabby treatment.

Woodland Critter
8:42pm, August 1, 2008

..the industry is wack!

gravija
1:32am, August 2, 2008

That's completely true..and ridiculous. What on earth is WRONG with Lionsgate?? We've been waiting for this movie for a long damn time and we finally get it and all they do is shove it off to some dollar theaters for a brief time until it's put out on dvd? Give us some credit, many of us would be willing to pay the full 10 bucks to see it. On that note, it was released in a dollar theater near Dallas so I managed to see it. It's incredibly good and I can't wait to see it again. And again.

djpojack
8:43pm, August 2, 2008

I went to go see it at a crappy $1.25 theater here in Denver, CO. It ran for about 5 minutes before the sprockets got messed up and the film burned up and split (wow I haven't seen that happen in 20 years. Screw Lionsgate!

ed_rod3d
4:09pm, August 9, 2008

COME ON! WHY NOT TO RELEASE IT ONLINE? IN THAT WAY WE CAN PAY MORE THAN A WORTHLESS DOLLAR, WHAT ABOUT $5.00, IT'S BETTER TO WATCH IT IN YOUR LIVING ROOM THAN A CRAPPY THEATER, RIGHT?


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