Nice, pretty nice :]

Well, I know what I'm doing this Halloween.

4 times the gayness and plenty of more lame sequels are whats on that tape.....

I enjoyed the first 3 Saw films but I am going to go out on a limb and say that this is pushing it a little too far?

Same shit, different Saw. With Jigsaw dead the series follows suit. Time to put this dead horse in the ground already.

I wonder if its possible that Jigsaw himself was involved in a trap. Much like Zepp was in the first Saw. Jigsaws trap being he must test the will of people unappreciative of life. They say that he is the puppet master behind it all, but is he? Was sumbody else pulling the strings all along? Far fetched i know, but hey, until we see the final 3 films, we wont know the full story. Anyway, cant wait to c wots in store with this part. I'm definately gna b checkin this out.

They need to kill the character,since he's had terminal cancer,since,like 2003,and they need to stop hershey squirting these sequels out every halloween

hey moron, by that i mean pissing_lazers are you aware of how long cancer patitions can survive cancer for? my dad lived about 7 years after he was diognosed with cancer so yeah, and btw saw was made in 2004 thats only like 3 years you indinile dipshit!

Hmmm, thats v.true chrisby. My nan had cancer 4 several years until it went into remission. So there proves that cancer patients can not only live with it but survive it 2. The time frame of the Saw films is unknown and according to the commentary by the producers on the Saw 3 dvd, the decision to kill Jigsaw came from the concern that fans wud begin to question why Jigsaw was taking so long to die. Therefore, im intrigued to c how they cope wit that loss in Saw 4. Roll on 26th Oct.

Another theory as to the possible 3rd person could b Cotas Madaylors detective who we glimpsed in Saw 3. From wot ive seen of him, he has an ominous presence. Notable when he puts sumthing into his pocket whilst listening to Carrie and Riggs convo. After all, how did Jigsaw obtain his info abowt Amandas wrong doings if he cud barely move. Maybe the detective was an nformant who himself was once a victim of Jigsaws traps and became a secret apprentice....

Jigsaw gets his info from somewhere and since he knew early on that Amanda wasnt as obedient as he required he could therefore b unable to trust her. There are so many suspects at the moment i just hope they dont do a Scream 3 and introduce a character we've never met and claim that they were behind it all. Cuz that would just BITE!

this is the same fuckin shit. its just the autopsy trailer which has been shortened and edited. they need a second theatrical trailer and show just a lil more, but not too much. i just wanna see the friggin movie already. but hey, its gonna be October tomorrow, and that means being one step closer to seeing the movie for once. i was just thinking about that woman who was in that trap getting her head scalped, the question is, why is she dressed up in the pig mask outfit? there must be some wierd reason for that. I wonder if its Jigsaw's wife. but i dont think Jigsaw would do that to her. and why would Donnie Wahlberg say that all he does is lie on the floor when he actually is standing up in that trap where he is tied to a noose while standing on an ice block? I also wonder how the opening of SAW IV will begin. Not sure if it will start of rite after Jeff Reinhart kills Jigsqaw or start off a lil after that. They might just show Jeff's game in flashbacks. kinda like how they showed how Eric made it out of the bathroom. i said too much, im done.

hmmmmmm im agreeing with discord above, it would be absolutley moronicly idiotic to introduce a character that we've never seen before and make it out they were all behind it, as a personal saw fan have like all billy merchandise and even have to buy two copys of saw just to see the extra features i feel i'd rather see someone like dr. gordan become the new jigsaw instead of some nobody, the one thing that upsets me is jill, in saw 1 and 2 not a mention, now in 3 and obviously 4 shes gonna be the main storyplot... it's kinda the same situation really, but i really really hope to god the guy on ice is dr. gordon, it's been 2 years now, 2 films since we've seen him. but i definetly think he's going to play a big part, jigsaws words in saw 3 were "i was his patient as he was mine" they meant something, and going by past saws im going to say that if he doesn't appear in this one, he won't in 5 either... he'll be in the best game of all, The Game Over, when saw has it's last trap!

one other thing is, has anyone noticed that, when james wan and leigh whannell made the original saw that after that the whole story, film kinda changed??? it was like just a different feel and everything, all i know is in that saw 3 they showed us "a so called dr.gordon" but they didn't show his face, obviously it wasn't the same guy since his hair was completely different, and ye but also in 2004 he took them to court, and won because he wasn't fully compensated so.... im really not sure.... obviously they are gonna have to change the character or, just have another "look-a-like" on the floor and make out he bled to death or sumthing!

but i doubt they're that dumb lolz!

First off, shouts out to Chrisby for snappin on Pissin Lasers!!! Get Em Girl! Ok, cancer patient or not, Jiggy is dead. How long he survived wit cancer is unknown but I feel u Discord, he had an inside man, or woman. Maybe, JUUUUUUUST maybe, he pulled a second Amanda. If he can make someone see the light of the darkside once, he can do it again. Even if he did save the Detective who pocketed some evidence for watever reason, Jigsaw is a jealous Jigsaw, and I think he'd want HIS work to continue under his terms. I dont think we'll witness a Jigsaw Competition between a now dead guy and some other accomplice. Maybe a rouge Jigsaw wont be the way to go, but it still may be interesting. It's October in this bitch and 26 Days Later, our Jaws will once again drop worst than Amanda's would have if she hadnt took her "special education" helmet off in time. I call it Special Ed, cuz well she learned something special that day lol. Too bad she didnt take her education with her to college for Serial Killer 101! OH, I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING FROM WAT DISCORD SAID!!! How bout this: Think about it, Costos Did Not Have Remorse for "The Amanda Classroom Chained To The Bomb Full Of Nailz Victim" (i forget his name so I'll make up one, lol. I know its an easy name up I cant think of it, but anyway). His words were "All He Had To Do, Was Break These Chains, Open The Door And Walk Out" FUCK THAT!!! Riggs was Right! He Didnt Learn that the door was welded shut until they said it later in the convo! IF he is Jigsaw's new bitch, then he looked at Amanda's work as bullshit (maybe as if he can do better!) Why else would he hide evidence?! UNLEEEESS, HE WAS THE ONE THAT DID IT! Who Clarified That Amanda Built "The Nail Bomb Amongst Chains" trap? Maybe he did it, and is just a crooked cop under Jigsaw?! Maybe Amanda read in the envelop that she has another accomplice and she was jealous. We'll see. Another shout out to Chrisby for the punchline to Saw VI: "The Game Over"!!! I LOVE THAT!!! Now I'm Ready For That One! OK back to the ideas, they better make sure they go back to Jeff's story, cuz I wanna see not only if he got his baby back, but who found Jigsaw and how? Well, If I think of anything else that would fit this Jigsaw Picture, I'll holla back!!!

And I still say that even if Gordon did make it out the hall, We've seen the hall way, dont u think we would've seen Dr. Gordon's trail of blood sometime or another down the walk way we know and love? And I Wanna See The Scene were Amanda killed Eric. Who Knows Where I Can See That?!

B-boi made sum interesting points there, expanding on wot i said. I'd 4gotten the note Jigsaw gave Amanda. Im going to say that although it was made clear that Amanda was jealous of Lynn, i think the note was wot made her pull a gun on Jigsaw. Obviously it upset her. The jealousy thing seems too obvious 4 a Saw movie.

As 4 the 'inside job' i stated, it wud make sense as ive always wondered how Jigsaw finds his victims. If u think abowt it, there is a common link between all the victims. They have all at sum point been affiliated with the law, arrested, suspected, employed or convicted. That wud again point owt that Jigsaws partner/2nd student is involved with the law.

I doubt Det. Hoffman is working for Jigsaw, it could be a possibility but I personally think that would be a big mistake. He just pocketed the evidence most likely because it was a source of evidence to bring back to the police dept. Dr. Gordon probably is alive. Don't you think if he was dead, they would show his corpse already. Why would his corpse be so damn important to show in later SAW movies? SAW IV will probably start off at the room where Jigsaw has an autopsy or Jeff finding his daughter. That would be a better openinig, him waking up from the explosion from Lynn's shotgun collar. And I think that if actor Cary Elwes came back to the role of Dr. Gordon, the creators of SAW may compensate for what they might have done to have pissed him off. Then he might reconsider coming back. It would be pretty wierd if they showed they infamous bathroom once again, that would be too many times. But it would be kinda cool. And about that pic where Eric was being dragged by an unknown figure. How could it be Jigsaw dragging him if his ass was too beat up? You know, when Eric punched the hell outta him to bring him to the house. Maybe Jigsaw somehow requested an unknown apprentice to assist him by taking Eric to somewhere we don't know.

Oh right,you two are the ONLY people who lose loved ones to cancer,i forgot,my bad....and you just insulted ppl ive lost to real cancer by comparing them to a lame ass movie sequel...get the co*ks outta ur ears before you post"here in the really real world" stuff next time b/c I bet you couldnt find ti*s in a stripclub

Saw 4 is gonna suck a d*ck,and so will 5,6,7,8,9 ...."just the beginning MUAHAHAHAHAHAAA......gimme a fu*king break......

Go Piss Lasers Somewhere, please?! This fuckin guy. Anyway, I got it!!! The Secret To The Pig Mask!!! Jigsaw is to Mastermind as PIG is to POLICE!!! They all have something to do with police. Well, maybe it's not a definate thing, but still, its a good analogy! Saw 4 wont open to Jeff wakin up from anything. When the last time you heard of someone gettin knocked off their feet from a shotgun blast. I mean I know she caught like 5 or 6 shots to the face at point blank range but still, Jeff well start rubbing her hair as it along with her scalp slides down the wall. Scorpius, you mad a good point tho. I also doubt Jigsaw was the one draggin Eric. I guess that proves that they wont be following the scene of Amanda gettin a lil knife crazy on Eric in the deleted scene in the hallway. Oh, and I could find tits in a strip club. I can find WALDO in a strip club before you find a bellybutton in a nude strip club. Yeah. Get you some of that!

pissing lazers ur a bit of a cabbage aintchya? we are well aware of wot cancer can do, and if u read my reply PROPERLY u wud c that i also pointed that u CAN survive cancer. not all cancer patients die. so instead of gobbing off bowt a film u hate so much why dont u go back 2 the playground and swing on the monkey bars. and let the rest of us ADULTS speculate withowt ur petulant rantings that would embarrass a 6yr old. HAHAHA!

and OH MY GOTH! 'saw 4 is gonna suck dick!'? last time i heard a comment like that i was a schoolboy. only childish muppets say things like that. there, put that in ur bong and choke on it. YAY 2-NIL TO DISCORD! oh, and B-boi. nice comeback!

and OH MY GOTH! 'saw 4 is gonna suck dick!'? last time i heard a comment like that i was a schoolboy. only childish muppets say things like that. there, put that in ur bong and choke on it. YAY 2-NIL TO DISCORD! oh, and B-boi. nice comeback!

Ya posted twice,there,Corky....

Naw, the first 3 where actually really good but i guess some people do want the same sh*t each and every year,so whatevers clever,I guess....and nice comeback only if ur name is flaming like "boi" or some sh*t...the movie is going to be gay...when you TRY and bust,stop using the Z key in place of the S....ya come off sounding like like a wigger with Downs syndrome....

the Z was a typo. easy mistake. and how exactly is Saw IV gonna b gay? wot the hell does that expression even mean? its sumthin uneducated children say.

ENOUGH!!! Can we keep opinions to a minimum, or at least give them some kind of reasoning? Sure, as films continue, they generally lose quality, but thus far the Saw series has been keeping it's quality track well. I'm sure the storyline is heading somewhere 'logical' and each film isn't being tacked on for the sake of coin in the film companies pocket. Judge the film in a month's time, not now... As for speculation, I can only imagine that everyone is way off where it's heading, and don't ask me where I think it's heading, I'm clueless.

Oh yeah, one thing, what did the guy that Amanda have to cut the key out of have to do with anything? Where was his chance to redeem himself? Perhaps we'll see more of him at some point...?

Okies Okies, we obviously know there's another jigsaw, but im going back to the note before to amanda... if he did say something about another apprentice in the letter... why wouldn't they kinda show it??? like amanda doesn't do anything special after she reads it besidies coming more jealous, it's got something to do with him not letting her continue his work i'd say, or a trap she won't wanna do... or anything!!!!

but also the fact is, james wan and leigh whannell made saw! they made it out to be a 6 film franchise... they have known the storyline all this time, they know what's happening... obviously they arn't making new shit up each year... it's all be planned out from the begining... i have no doubt in my mind that who they left the franchise to will make sure they keep the storyline in tact...

OH OH and one other thing, pissing_lazers if i offended you in anyway about the cancer victim situation all i have to say is that i'm, i'm very bloody gratefull i did, someone liek you probably deserves to lose someone from cancer, it's ppl like you jigsaw test's to me ur nothing but a sad child whose life is so pathetic that you need to make others feel ur pitty! why don't you go get a life you sick fucking ass!

anyways back to the topic at hand, i also do agree with you saying the costas is no way apart of jigsaws game, after reading ur comments i fully agree with that now, but i also do agree with discord... how the hell did he find out all the information for his test subjects... but let's not forget... we still don't know what jill is yet, even thoguh is mgiht be far fetched she could be a cop lolz... and also there's obi.... they have already stated we are gonan learn about him but ye anyways..... there are new charachters and with new characers theres gotta be a career for them... so anything will happen... let's just wait and see in time shell we.

btw i promise ill stop after this but baz6sic6 makes a good point above with the guy amanda had to cut open... but also where was adam's chance to redeem himself in the first saw... some of his traps kinda hypacrit his work.... so we'll see soon shell we...

You're right, I didn't even think of Adam, the trap seemed purpose built for Dr. Gordon, hmmm...

i know aye....

I'm tired of people bashing the Saw films.If you really dislike them that much,it is really sad that you're wasting your time going to Saw sites just to say how much you don't like them.Get a life.And also, for those of you saying "why the hell are they making another one? They just nead to put this to rest."....well, why the hell not?? If people like them, and it's become a successful franchise, then why not give the fans what they want, and at the same time make some really good money? For real, you haters just need to stop, because fans of these films really don't care if you like them or not...so don't waste your time telling us anymore.