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Old 12-08-2012, 12:35 PM   #2781
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Also, the very set up, Batman haven't made no appearance for what, 7 years, The Dent Act, and the public's feelings about Batman are all direct result's of the 2nd movie.

And after 7 years I doubt the Joker's name would be all over the public's discourse and more than the last big criminal case is on everyone's tongue in real life a year later, especially when a new big criminal case comes alone every 2, 3, 6, 12 months or how ever long it works out to be.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:50 PM   #2782
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I hated how they acted like the second film never happened.
Uhm...they referred to several scenes from The Dark Knight.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:12 PM   #2783
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True but he was a villain,and not just a run of the mill criminal.It could just me to thinking a little nod to the joker would have been cool.I just feel he was such a huge character and not to mention him whatsoever was odd.
If Ledger were alive I imagine it would've been the Joker presiding over the makeshift court instead of Scarecrow. (at the very least anyway)
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:19 PM   #2784
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If you remember, Scarecrow wasn't the actual villain in BB. He pretty much led the underworld of Gotham, as he's basically doing in TDK and TDKR. I just don't think The Joker would've fit in this movie at all. But that could be just me. haha
I was so surprised, when he all of the sudden appeared as a judge within the chaos of the "courtroom". I am not sure how to put it in my brain yet.

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I'm just going off what both Nolans said about the ending. They both say it's up to the viewer to decide what happened.
That's the more rational and logic approach to it. I can't live with the fact that the scene in the cafe witnessed by Alfred was reality. No fucking way.
How does the viewer know of such stupid things like an auto-pilot, summaring 1+1 up to the conclusion, that he is still alive and well after a nuclear explosion? Gimme a break.
This film has definitely the vibe and feel of a comic book, not so much a movie which stands with both legs in reality and reality only. Though, it would explain the well-being of Bruce after his self sacrifice brilliantly, but I can't take that as a legit excuse. There's a point, where enough is enough.

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Even Micheal Caine believes the Cafe scene is legit.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/12/0...es-final-scene

Enough of this dream sequence nonsense.
No way dude. Read my comments above.

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I don't know, but if so, he was clearly in the one holding the bomb. The way it's edited, there is no way any rational human being would think, "Oh', he must be in the other batwing".
Exactly my words and thoughts. He was blown to nuclear smithereens, period.
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Uhm...they referred to several scenes from The Dark Knight.
Exactly, I mean how could most of this movie existed without part 2? I mean the name Harvey Dent would have never been mentioned, Gordon wouldnt be commissioner, Batman wouldnt be hated or have a reason to become a recluse, and I could go on. Quite frankly I see nothing wrong with not mentioning The Joker, I mean sure he is one of the most memorable villians but in all honesty I saw him as merely a time killer so to speak in regards to the overall story.
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I can't live with the fact that the scene in the cafe witnessed by Alfred was reality. No fucking way.
It was.. I'm surprised this is even a conversation.

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How does the viewer know of such stupid things like an auto-pilot, summaring 1+1 up to the conclusion, that he is still alive and well after a nuclear explosion? Gimme a break.
Because there was a small scene explaining that the auto-pilot was working.


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This film has definitely the vibe and feel of a comic book, not so much a movie which stands with both legs in reality and reality only. Though, it would explain the well-being of Bruce after his self sacrifice brilliantly, but I can't take that as a legit excuse. There's a point, where enough is enough.
It's just not a good film bro
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It's just not a good film bro


To say you dont like it is one thing but to call it a bad movie is just bullshit
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To say you dont like it is one thing but to call it a bad movie is just bullshit
Nah, more like accurate. I think we have a different set of standards.

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Looks like I was right Aren't you the guy that told people who criticized this pile to "get over it" because "it's only a movie"? You should heed your own advice bra.
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I hated how they acted like the second film never happened.
Did you even watch the movie? It even opens with a contribute to Dent, who was ONLY in the second film.

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Nah, more like accurate. I think we have a different set of standards.
Like Morningriser said; you can say you didn't like it, but to call it a bad film is an unaccurate opinion.
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Like Morningriser said; you can say you didn't like it, but to call it a bad film is an unaccurate opinion.
But it is due to a myriad of very valid reasons pointed out already. To give the thing a 10/10 or call it the best film of the year is an example of incredibly low standards.
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