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Old 05-18-2009, 10:49 AM   #11
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Actually listening to Bedlam in Goliath right now.
It's good stuff.

I just heard 2 songs off their new release. Can't wait for the entire album to leak.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:05 AM   #12
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I think De-Loused is by far their best effort and one of my all-time favourite albums from beginning to end. I can throw it on anytime and never tire of it. The same can't be said for the rest. Parts of Frances and Bedlam are brilliant, but they've become underwhelming with time. I still haven't really given Amputechture a shot.

I've seen 'em live before, but regret not seein' 'em on the Bedlam tour with that insane new drummer they've got.

Solid pick in the draft, though. +1.5 from this guy.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:19 PM   #13
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I think De-Loused is by far their best effort and one of my all-time favourite albums from beginning to end.
Totally agree with you, these guys had a great musicians in the band
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:54 PM   #14
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Arrogant? Quasi-art?

Come on. That's just dumb. They're are some of the best musicians working today. Have you even listened to their albums?
This pretty accurately sums up how I feel about The Mars Volta, only far more eloquently than I could have written it.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/your...mputecture.php
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:37 PM   #15
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Eh, When Igor Stravinsky's Le Sacre Du Printemps (Rites of Spring) was primiered over a century ago, the performers and musicians were booed out of countenance by a very hostile audience; so much so, in fact, that the performance was cut short. The piece was deemed terrible, interminable, noise by a knowledgable body of critics. Today, it's considered a classic piece of modernism.

Stravinsky knew what he was about even if the rest of the musical establishment had some catching up to do.

Who knows what the world will think of The Mars Volta ten or twenty years from now? For many, including the critic linked in the above post, the stuff is just noise with artsy pretensions. I don't happen to agree, but I know that similar things were said about the music of Revolver era Beatles as well as the work of Jimi Hendrix.

The fact that people can hate their music with such unrestrained vehemence (or snarky ham-headed imbecility in the case of our featured critic), shows me that The Mars Volta are doing something right.

Oh, and if you really think the Mars Volta is over amplified art twaddle, check out John Zorn's various involvements with Trevor Dunn, Mike Patton, and Joey Baron----Astronome, Moonchild, and Litanies of Helioglobus. Zorn won a genius award a few years back for his extensive work in compostition and performance in classical, rock, and jazz idioms. You will definitely hate it.
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Eh, When Igor Stravinsky's Le Sacre Du Printemps (Rites of Spring) was primiered over a century ago, the performers and musicians were booed out of countenance by a very hostile audience; so much so, in fact, that the performance was cut short. The piece was deemed terrible, interminable, noise by a knowledgable body of critics. Today, it's considered a classic piece of modernism.

Stravinsky knew what he was about even if the rest of the musical establishment had some catching up to do.

Who knows what the world will think of The Mars Volta ten or twenty years from now? For many, including the critic linked in the above post, the stuff is just noise with artsy pretensions. I don't happen to agree, but I know that similar things were said about the music of Revolver era Beatles as well as the work of Jimi Hendrix.

The fact that people can hate their music with such unrestrained vehemence (or snarky ham-headed imbecility in the case of our featured critic), shows me that The Mars Volta are doing something right.

Oh, and if you really think the Mars Volta is over amplified art twaddle, check out John Zorn's various involvements with Trevor Dunn, Mike Patton, and Joey Baron----Astronome, Moonchild, and Litanies of Helioglobus. Zorn won a genius award a few years back for his extensive work in compostition and performance in classical, rock, and jazz idioms. You will definitely hate it.
Certainly perceptions of art change over time and yes, those who were once hated do go on to become legendary. Still, is it not a bit of a stretch to be comparing The Mars Volta to Stravinsky and The Beatles?

Of course all art is subjective and we could fight about this until we're blue in the face but that's pointless. And to the one who asked, I've heard all of their albums and I've actually seen them live 3 times.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:11 PM   #17
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(such as "The Widow" in The Bedlam in Goliath).
The Widow is on Frances the Mute
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:03 PM   #18
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I saw Mars Volta when they were touring with System of a Down. Pretty awesome performance I must say. The guitarist was a beast and did a kickass job... they all did as a whole.
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To make up for the other review that I cited, which was denoted as "ham handed", here's another highly credible and extremely well-written one from Pitchfork that touches on why I don't like them.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/...nces-the-mute/
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Pitchfork writes some of the dumbest reviews imaginable.
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