Giallo Appreciation Thread - BLOODY-DISGUSTING

Doc · 06-19-2007, 11:50 AM

All purpose Giallo thread...

To kick things off, I'm watching the commentary on the VCI DVD of "Blood and Black Lace" which is fascinating (if not a little too detailed at times). The film is one of my favorites. Bava is a master of cinematography and lighting, creating a really intense, borderline surreal mood.

Anyway... go!

What are some of your favorites? Why?

Which do you dislike? Why?

Etc.

Here are a few links to some good articles courtesy of Kinoeye:
Intro to Giallos
Art and the Giallo
Dario Argento index pt. I
Dario Argento index pt. II
Blood and Black Lace article

Doc · 06-19-2007, 12:05 PM

Yeah. It's the only Region 1 release that I know of that isn't OOP. The transfer isn't great. It's clean, but the colors are a little washed out at times, which is unfortunate. All in all I think the criticism of the transfer is a little exaggerated.

superfry · 06-19-2007, 12:10 PM

Been wanting to make this thread myself,but have been waiting til I go through another Giallo "phase".

Argento & M.Bava are the undisputed maestros of the genre but I really like Sergio Martino's stuff as well.

Caustic Coffee · 06-19-2007, 12:33 PM

I'm still catching up on Bava so I can't speak to him as well. Argento is a madman though. Of course I like Suspiria, and Inferno is a better follow up than its given credit for, particularly how visually stunning it is.

But, my favorite has to be Tenebre. I'm not sure I would say it was the best giallo all time, but it's huge in my book. That ending was way ahead of its time.

Doc · 06-19-2007, 12:34 PM

I'll admit I haven't really seen that many films in this genre (though I'm pretty sure what I have seen generally makes up the "best" of what's out there)

Deep Red is the best that I've seen. It is a truly exceptional example of what (in my mind) sets the Giallo apart from a run of the mill murder/thriller flick. It makes use of all of the elements that make the Giallo unique, especially the camera work (some of the most interesting and beautifully framed shots that I've ever seen) and the violence (extremely disturbing/graphic, and also very stylized in its presentation)

mR_BuNgLe · 06-19-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

I'll admit I haven't really seen that many films in this genre (though I'm pretty sure what I have seen generally makes up the "best" of what's out there)

Deep Red is the best that I've seen. It is a truly exceptional example of what (in my mind) sets the Giallo apart from a run of the mill murder/thriller flick. It makes use of all of the elements that make the Giallo unique, especially the camera work (some of the most interesting and beautifully framed shots that I've ever seen) and the violence (extremely disturbing/graphic, and also very stylized in its presentation)

I agree with all of this. There are still a few that I need to seek out, but from what I've seen, Deep Red is my favourite.

depecheanix · 06-19-2007, 12:59 PM

I'll try to avoid spoilers as many people have yet to see see Tenebrae or Deep Red.

The endings to both Deer Red and Tenebrae are both great but Deep Red's ending actually made me go back to 'the scene' because I was thinking "This movie is making shit up now, that wasn't there when the scene was first shown". But sure enough it was there and I was just completely obvlivious to it.

Doc · 06-19-2007, 01:04 PM

Yeah. It actually has a lot of subtleties that make it better than his other films (from a writing standpoint).

depecheanix · 06-19-2007, 01:14 PM

I even liked the comedic relief in the extended version.

superfry · 06-19-2007, 01:16 PM

It's a common misconception of the genre to think that all Gialli will be as atmospheric,graphic & visually interesting as Bava and Argento.

Having gotten into the genre,1st through Argento then afterwards,Bava it took me awhile to appreciate some of the other stuff.

There's some real gems out there that might not seem that great in comparison to "The Big 2" but are worthwhile in their own right but might not appear so on 1st viewing or if ones expectations of "style" are too high.

A couple of really good ones,offhand, are Emilio Miraglia'sTHE RED QUEEN KILLS 7 TIMES,Umberto Lenzi's SEVEN BLOODSTAINED ORCHIDS,and Sergio Martino's THE STRANGE VICE OF MRS. WARDH,CASE OF THE SCORPIONS TALE & (one of my all time favs)TORSO.

06-19-2007, 11:50 AM	#1
Doc It... Won't... Die... Doc is a hillbilly. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Across the Burning Sands Posts: 10,490	Giallo Appreciation Thread All purpose Giallo thread... To kick things off, I'm watching the commentary on the VCI DVD of "Blood and Black Lace" which is fascinating (if not a little too detailed at times). The film is one of my favorites. Bava is a master of cinematography and lighting, creating a really intense, borderline surreal mood. Anyway... go! What are some of your favorites? Why? Which do you dislike? Why? Etc. Here are a few links to some good articles courtesy of Kinoeye: Intro to Giallos Art and the Giallo Dario Argento index pt. I Dario Argento index pt. II Blood and Black Lace article __________________ FILMS THAT WITNESS MADNESS Last edited by Doc; 06-20-2007 at 08:30 AM.

06-19-2007, 12:05 PM	#2
Doc It... Won't... Die... Doc is a hillbilly. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Across the Burning Sands Posts: 10,490	Yeah. It's the only Region 1 release that I know of that isn't OOP. The transfer isn't great. It's clean, but the colors are a little washed out at times, which is unfortunate. All in all I think the criticism of the transfer is a little exaggerated. __________________ FILMS THAT WITNESS MADNESS

06-19-2007, 12:34 PM	#5
Doc It... Won't... Die... Doc is a hillbilly. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Across the Burning Sands Posts: 10,490	I'll admit I haven't really seen that many films in this genre (though I'm pretty sure what I have seen generally makes up the "best" of what's out there) Deep Red is the best that I've seen. It is a truly exceptional example of what (in my mind) sets the Giallo apart from a run of the mill murder/thriller flick. It makes use of all of the elements that make the Giallo unique, especially the camera work (some of the most interesting and beautifully framed shots that I've ever seen) and the violence (extremely disturbing/graphic, and also very stylized in its presentation) __________________ FILMS THAT WITNESS MADNESS

06-19-2007, 12:59 PM	#7
depecheanix It... Won't... Die... depecheanix is fgsdoi dsn dsnfm ods Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 18,707	I'll try to avoid spoilers as many people have yet to see see Tenebrae or Deep Red. The endings to both Deer Red and Tenebrae are both great but Deep Red's ending actually made me go back to 'the scene' because I was thinking "This movie is making shit up now, that wasn't there when the scene was first shown". But sure enough it was there and I was just completely obvlivious to it. __________________

06-19-2007, 01:04 PM	#8
Doc It... Won't... Die... Doc is a hillbilly. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Across the Burning Sands Posts: 10,490	Yeah. It actually has a lot of subtleties that make it better than his other films (from a writing standpoint). __________________ FILMS THAT WITNESS MADNESS

06-19-2007, 12:10 PM	#3
superfry Big Poppa superfry is wanting a monkey to avenge his death! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 'Nam Land! 'Nam Land! Posts: 14,298	Been wanting to make this thread myself,but have been waiting til I go through another Giallo "phase". Argento & M.Bava are the undisputed maestros of the genre but I really like Sergio Martino's stuff as well.

06-19-2007, 12:33 PM	#4
Caustic Coffee Abuser of Power Caustic Coffee is the I in team. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 13,178	I'm still catching up on Bava so I can't speak to him as well. Argento is a madman though. Of course I like Suspiria, and Inferno is a better follow up than its given credit for, particularly how visually stunning it is. But, my favorite has to be Tenebre. I'm not sure I would say it was the best giallo all time, but it's huge in my book. That ending was way ahead of its time.

06-19-2007, 01:14 PM	#9
depecheanix It... Won't... Die... depecheanix is fgsdoi dsn dsnfm ods Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 18,707	I even liked the comedic relief in the extended version. __________________

06-19-2007, 01:16 PM	#10
superfry Big Poppa superfry is wanting a monkey to avenge his death! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 'Nam Land! 'Nam Land! Posts: 14,298	It's a common misconception of the genre to think that all Gialli will be as atmospheric,graphic & visually interesting as Bava and Argento. Having gotten into the genre,1st through Argento then afterwards,Bava it took me awhile to appreciate some of the other stuff. There's some real gems out there that might not seem that great in comparison to "The Big 2" but are worthwhile in their own right but might not appear so on 1st viewing or if ones expectations of "style" are too high. A couple of really good ones,offhand, are Emilio Miraglia'sTHE RED QUEEN KILLS 7 TIMES,Umberto Lenzi's SEVEN BLOODSTAINED ORCHIDS,and Sergio Martino's THE STRANGE VICE OF MRS. WARDH,CASE OF THE SCORPIONS TALE & (one of my all time favs)TORSO.

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