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Old 04-25-2014, 04:24 PM   #191
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I'm not sure why it was split into two films though, because they were released at the same time and even on DVD they're being released together.

Why did Lars split it?
Because it's so long, and obviously to make a bit of extra cash.
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I'm not sure why it was split into two films though, because they were released at the same time and even on DVD they're being released together.

Why did Lars split it?
It's better as two.

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Because it's so long, and obviously to make a bit of extra cash.
This.

People are more inclined to check out a two hour film than they are a four hour one.
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I'm still not convinced to watch them separately. I'd rather watch it as one film, the way Lars intended, presumably.
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Volume I

So when I heard that Lars was doing a 4 hour porn movie I rolled my eyes. Don’t get me wrong, Lars Von Trier is one of my favourite directors and his films are often rich and illuminating, but he can also try very hard to shock. The idea of Lars doing a porn movie seemed to be like a big way of him saying, “Look at me everyone! Aren’t I shocking!?” Thankfully though, reviews came out and were largely positive. The film wasn’t a porn movie at all and I breathed a sigh of relief and felt a buzz of excitement. Last night I watch Nymphomaniac volume I and I loved it!

The film is incredibly interesting and strangely absorbing. It’s also very experimental which I actually liked a lot. One scene is black and white; another is put into a box whilst others have numbers and words super-imposed on the screen. Some may find these visuals distracting, but I found them fascinating and it gave the film a real pulse. Nymphomaniac feels alive and it’s wonderful that Lars feels so confident to experiment freely and put his own artistic input into the mix. Not enough directors do this, but the ones who do are often the greatest.

I loved the jarring opening. It opens very calmly and silently with the camera focusing on drops of rain and details of an alley-way, before revealing Charlotte Gainsbourg fagged out on the floor. Then without warning, an incredibly loud heavy metal anthem bursts through the speakers. It’s completely ill-fitting, but strangely enough it works and it sort of foreshadows the mysterious and playful nature of the character Joe, and the film itself.

As stated by many people, the film is basically an interaction between Joe and Seligman as Joe recounts her life up until now. Volume I deals entirely with young Joe and what a fascinating character she is. The two hour segment flew by, because the character is so strangely absorbing. I found the whole film gripping. The earlier scenes on the train were wonderfully executed with brilliant dialogue and a very dark atmosphere.

The sex scenes themselves are nowhere near as bad as they’ve been hyped up to be. Of course some of them are pretty awkward to watch (e.g. the scene where Joe loses her virginity) but only a couple actually have pornographic shots, and whilst these shots are unnecessary; at least they have more meaning than that pointless shot in Antichrist. If someone bought Nymphomaniac hoping to be titillated, then they’d be extremely disappointed. Unless of course they’re into disturbed characters being sexually humiliated.

I also must talk about the Uma Thurman scene. It is brilliant! It’s such a shame that Uma’s only good films have been with Quentin Tarantino because she is a fantastic actress who seems to do a lot of rubbish films! Thankfully, Uma is now in a good non-Tarantino film and she shines. It’s a masterful scene and will probably be the best scene in the entire two-part film. It’s toe-curlingly awkward, yet darkly humorous, and then very emotional. I loved it.

It’s a total contrast to the scenes with Shia who fails to shine. A lot has been said about his accent and yes it really is that bad! It’s a mixture of South African, Australian, cockney, rough English and American... And maybe a little Polish. I was trying not to pay much attention to it, but it really is very distracting and also very difficult to understand what he’s saying. Why on Earth did Lars not say, “Shia, what the frig are you doing with your accent? Just speak American for Christ’s sake!”

Another small problem I had with the film was that the dialogue was sometimes clumsy. Some of the more philosophical conversations felt too contrived to be taken seriously. Also, some lines felt like something from a bad porn movie. Other than that, the screenplay was absolutely top-notch! Lars clearly has a very profound and interesting story to tell and I can’t wait to see how it continues. I'm also glad about watching it in parts as there is a lot to take in and you can really appreciate more. I would put Nymphomaniac volume I on par with the rest of the Depression trilogy.

9/10
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:34 PM   #195
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Volume II

Volume II has had less favourable reviews than volume I and I suppose I can see why. Itís much darker and harder to watch. It also takes a slower pace and isnít as funny. However, I found it to be just as excellent as the first volume. I may be biased here, as I am into dark and depressing films. I especially love Larsí more depressing and emotional films, Dancer in the Dark and Breaking the Waves, so volume II was a powerful and satisfying experience for me.

We delve deeper into Joeís dark side as she explores the more disturbing side of sexual stimulation by attending some highly un-erotic classes with Billy Elliot. These scenes are probably the hardest to watch in the whole film. Fifty Shades of Grey it ainít! The chapter is extremely well-made though. From the moment Joe sets foot in the eerie building, thereís an extremely uncomfortable atmosphere and a sense of terrible foreshadowing. Some have said that these masochistic scenes go on for too long, but I felt that the length was necessary to really show the weight of Joeís nymphomania and how itís totally disturbing her life. Jamie Bell is also very good in these scenes.

What I did find a little odd though was the jump from Stacy Martin to Charlotte Gainsbourg. Three years later and she morphs into a completely different-looking person and has aged about 20 years! It didnít really work and sort of brought you out of the film a little bit. Another thing which I find really bizarre was the blatant self-reference to Anti-christ! Granted there are many nods throughout the two volumes to Larsí other work, which is fine because itís pretty fun if youíre a fan (like me!) to spot Joe wearing the same prostitute clothes as Bess from Breaking the Waves. However, one scene is pretty much a remake of the opening to Antichrist with the same music and everything. I found this extremely odd and it did serve to bring me out of the film.

These were my only jibes with the film though really. On the whole itís a very rich, intelligent and thoughtful experience. It didnít feel like two hours at all because I was so sucked into the story and really interested in Joeís life. Sheís such a complex character and a very interesting one to listen to. It was also nice to see more of Charlotte Gainsbourg here as I think sheís a very underrated actress. Her monotone voice is weirdly hypnotic to listen to and you believe everything she does. All of the performances were excellent though.

Not many people seem to talk about the latter half of the film, which is strange because I found it very interesting. I especially found the whole paedophilia talk interesting and it was very taboo-breaking and brave of Lars to include this, but then again heís never been afraid of being a little provocative. I found the whole relationship with P quite moving, and the sex therapy scenes were wonderfully awkward. One of the best moments is when Joe recalls climbing a mountain and finding her Ďsoul treeí. Itís so beautifully done with gorgeous cinematography and music.

The ending was very touching, of course up until the very last moment. Iím not quite sure how to feel about the ending. Itís very provocative and has got people talking. Itís interesting but Iím not sure if I like it. Iím also not too sure if it should be taken so literally. In fact, Iím not too sure if the whole film should be taken so literally as itís unclear if some parts are Joeís delusions. Itís very interesting.

Although I watched the two volumes a day apart, I think that I could quite easily watch it all in one go. It all went by quite quickly for me and nothing felt too long. In the end I think that Nymphomaniac is one of the best films Lars has ever done. Itís probably my favourite out of the depression trilogy by a hair. Itís brilliantly directly and is full of an energy, life and soul which many films lack. Itís very explicit with a lot of erections and fadge close-ups, but none of it felt gratuitous. Lars has created a rich and powerful film. Yes, there may be a few hiccups, but anyone would expect a few hiccups in a film that is four hours in length.

9/10
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The ending was very touching, of course up until the very last moment. Iím not quite sure how to feel about the ending. Itís very provocative and has got people talking. Itís interesting but Iím not sure if I like it. Iím also not too sure if it should be taken so literally. In fact, Iím not too sure if the whole film should be taken so literally as itís unclear if some parts are Joeís delusions. Itís very interesting.
Literal or not, there's no reason for the film to end like that besides Von Trier wanting to throw out a major "Fuck You" to the audience.

He makes a movie full of optimism and hopefulness only to toss it all out the window at the last second. Terrible.
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Literal or not, there's no reason for the film to end like that besides Von Trier wanting to throw out a major "Fuck You" to the audience.

He makes a movie full of optimism and hopefulness only to toss it all out the window at the last second. Terrible.
I thought that the ending
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could've all been a dream. It seemed very out of character for them both. Seligman was far to caring and understanding to suddenly turn into a rapist, and Joe was just saying how thankful she is that the gun didn't go off and made her a murderer.
I found it thought-provoking, but I can see why others find it incredibly frustrating!
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could've all been a dream. It seemed very out of character for them both. Seligman was far to caring and understanding to suddenly turn into a rapist, and Joe was just saying how thankful she is that the gun didn't go off and made her a murderer.
I found it thought-provoking, but I can see why others find it incredibly frustrating!
Eh, that would make the ending a little more tolerable but I don't remember anything in the film that would indicate what we saw wasn't true.

I think that

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Seligman was one of those stereotypical "nice" guys who just expect sex for being neighborly. He listened to her story, he gave input, and took her in so in his mind he probably thought that doing all of those things meant that she was going to be automatically willing to have sex with him, especially after the nature of the story she told. He was the delusional one out of the two.


And while I remember, what the fuck was up with that dick montage? I don't have problems seeing them or anything but was a bit excessive
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Eh, that would make the ending a little more tolerable but I don't remember anything in the film that would indicate what we saw wasn't true.

I think that

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Seligman was one of those stereotypical "nice" guys who just expect sex for being neighborly. He listened to her story, he gave input, and took her in so in his mind he probably thought that doing all of those things meant that she was going to be automatically willing to have sex with him, especially after the nature of the story she told. He was the delusional one out of the two.


And while I remember, what the fuck was up with that dick montage? I don't have problems seeing them or anything but was a bit excessive
The ending is very interesting. It's open to interpretation I suppose.

That penis montage was very excessive. But I found it quite amusing to be honest
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