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This was pretty good. Better than Zombie's first Halloween remake. This is not a remake actually. Not at all. He is just technically re-vision of the 1978 serial killer. The first Halloween remake was a prologue and this is an epilogue. This is what Halloween 3 should have been. This film added more bloody and louder sound effects, which is good in my opinion. This film added more of a white trash sequence which is not bad but doesn't make it better. The beginning and ending surprisingly is a few of the best parts of the movie. Sadly the best part of the beginning is only a dream. There is only one or two teenage girls in this movie that is not totally slutty. I know a LOT of people like that, and I mean a LOT, but some people are not in to that.
The acting is not great, but its okay. Enough to not drive me crazy. But something I do not get from a lot of these negative people is when they complain about the films acting when this film had way better acting then the very original first Halloween.
There is also a lot of random killing in this film but what is there to argue. The killings were great.
A downside of this movie is that one of Halloweens biggest characters, Mr. Loomis, was not needed in this film except for the ending. He was just a sub-plot and they changed him into a greedy everything-must-be-perfect scum.
This film had some good actors like Brad Dourif and Malcolm McDowell.
The Final Destination killed Halloween 2 in the box office but I do not get why. Is it that it was 3-D? The Final Destination inferior and the same at the same time to its 3 prequels. Halloween 2 also put up more ads than The Final Destination, but I suppose people thought it would be like the first remake. Trust me, it is not.
Posted By: Verbal Kint at 12:22pm, November 6, 2009
The only good thing about this movie was the opening.... which was a dream. Great. With that said, bad acting, terrible dialogue, irritating characters, meandering plot...
If Rob had truly tried to re-image Halloween then I think both of these films could have been spectacular, but instead he just tried to squeeze the entire series into two poorly made forgettable flicks. There is barely anything original in either one, except for one thing which doesn't make any logical sense in the story. What is Michael, Rob? A troubled child all grown up, or an unstoppable force of evil? What's the point of spending so much time trying to make it seem that Michael is the way he is because his family is a bunch of meanie heads when he is obviously an immortal killing machine? The first Halloween remake was bad, but this one just brought this reawakened franchise to an almost unheard of low. This flick made it into Resurrection territory. It might be actually worse than that, but I'll never know sense I will never watch either of those films again. Goddamn you, Zombie!
Posted By: tragic losses at 12:00pm, November 4, 2009
Terrible movie...Zombie turned Loomis into a money hungry douchbag only out to make a quick buck.Loomis was obsessed with stopping Michael not with making money.The whole white horse thing and his mother every 5 minutes made no sense either.Even part 6's plot made more sense than this garbage.I dont see how anyone with an IQ over 20 could possibly like this trailer park trash of a waste of film
This movie was better than Rob Zombie's first one by far, I liked the fact that he now grunts when killing, it shows how mad and aggressive he really is, I didn't like the fact that Robs wife was again the star of the show, shes not bad but its about myers not her. She died get her out of it, one or two flashbacks wasnt bad but the whole movie comeon, another bad thing was there was no myers music only at the very end, ans Scout sucked bad i dint like her character at all she was no inicent jamie lee, she was a care free teen with no morals i didnt care if she dies or not, it makes it a better movie if the viewers were more sympathetic of the caracter, you want them to go "no no run run he there" not " F*** it kill her already". Other than that i did love the movie Rob Zombie did an amazing job on the new Myers.
I love the way Rob Zombie put his own twist to this movie and did a great job doing it. Tyler Mane is a beast, he made me afraid of Mike Myers again. I think this a good way to further explain why this madman is doing what he is. The realness and extra dark brutality was outstanding. Can't wait to see the directors cut.
Posted By: horrorbuff28 at 2:32pm, October 24, 2009
I actually found this to be really good. Michael Myers brutality was so amazing. He was was badass. I loved RZ vision of the movie. RZ has skill and i dont care what anybody says. Alot of the shots were astounding especially when Michael Myers picks up the car and rolls it down the hill.
All in All, H2 was a surprisingly great film and i recommend it.
Awkward. Very, very awkward. The whole "mom-in-Michael's-head" thing needs to go. That was one of the biggest mistakes ever. The white horse crap is stupid too. And why the heck does Michael have a friggin' beard? Take off that stupid trench coat and someone buy this guy a Gillette Fusion!
All in all, an interesting, yet weak film.
i was really disappointed with this when i left the theater!! brutal/gory...yes!!!! but enough with RZ's psycho backstory and Sherri Moon in every freakin' Michael Myers frame!!! if she remained in the first scene, i'd rate this much higher. but i want to see MM kill....not a lot of psycho-drama!!! this movie was better when it was called HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES.....
I'm a big fan of horror films, and I have a child-like obsession with Halloween, so when the two collide you can definitely expect me to be there with a grin on my face. If you haven't heard already, the sequel to Rob Zombie's remake of one of Hollywood's beloved horror franchises was released recently. So is it a worthy sequel or just a cash in on a well-known series?
If you haven't seen the first (remake) it was a prequel to the 1978 original where we got to witness the origin of the iconic Michael Myers. This kid is bat-shit crazy if you couldn't guess that already, and on Halloween night he kills his entire family, save for his infant sister, Laurie Strode. After the brutal murders this hell-born demon child is sent to a sanitarium to be treated by Dr. Loomis (played by the totally awesome Malcom McDowell). He cooperates at first before becoming infatuated with papier-mâché masks, grows into a tower of a man, and eventually breaks out of the asylum to find his little sister. Anyone who's seen or is at all familiar with the original Halloween knows the rest of the story, so on to Halloween 2.
The film begins with a flashback of young Michael (played by a new and much less creepy actor) at the sanitarium. He's talking to his mom who's just given him a toy horse, which then reminds him of a dream he had about her where she's dressed in white and being followed by a giant white horse. This introduces the more prominent supernatural/psychological scenes in the movie which involve Deborah Myers (played by Sheri Moon Zombie), most of which I found misplaced in this type of movie. Before the film came out Rob Zombie said he was going to focus on a more realistic approach, so these scenes involving Deborah and this crazy big horse feel out of place in between the film's stronger approach at brutality. The scenes are largely dreamlike and show up at the strangest of times, placed, I'm guessing, to break up the truly intense and largely brutal scenes. But instead of giving the audience a break from the constant brutality, these scenes are just unusual.
Don't get me wrong, I love the beautifully bizarre Sheri Moon, but it almost feels as if she was included in the film just to have her in it, rather than giving her a necessary role. This leads me to another character that has become much weaker, Dr. Loomis. In Halloween he had a role as the only person who truly understood Michael, but in this movie he came off as more of an eccentric jerk than a renowned psychologist. For example, when Dr. Loomis is talking to his assistant he actually says "When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you." I wish I was making that up. When did he become such an ass, constantly complaining and asking for his tea a certain way?
The rest of the characters however, are quite strong. Laurie Strode is struggling to keep her sanity, and her friends are truly interesting (and highly entertaining) additions. But for me the most surprisingly strong character is Sheriff Brackett (Brad Dourif) who seems to have found his place as dad first, sheriff second. But the most important character, Michael Myers, is crazier and more brutal than ever. Zombie has definitely succeeded in taking Myers' barbaric side to a whole new level where during some of the scenes we see him curb stomp some guy's face into mush, slam a stripper's head into a mirror repeatedly, and knife the crap out of a nurse's skull. The sound effects are particularly nasty, specifically during the nurse scene near the beginning of the movie. He also seems to have gained superhuman strength as he literally rolls over a car (after throwing the driver through its windshield, of course) with his bare hands.
For the most part, Myers is as awesome as ever. Unfortunately we see his face a few too many times and he grunts and growls while killing some of his victims. To me this made him feel less like one of Hollywood's iconic serial killers and more like a really pissed off hobo. Aside from that you'll be happy to know that Zombie's trademark outlandish humor is here in spades, mostly revolving around a truly hilarious scene in a stripper joint, but that's definitely not all of it. His humor is so freaky and it fits with the film's setting so well that it breaks the action up well and really ends up making the movie a lot better.
In the end, this is a film any horror fan should see because it's great sadistic fun, has a lot of great acting, and some truly vicious action. Zombie has mastered the art of putting his audience at the edge of their seat one second and laughing the next. Just when you think you're going to get a chance to breathe, he violently throws you back into the visceral action Zombie is known for. I'm happy to say that, while flawed, this is worthy sequel to one of Hollywood's best horror franchises. It'll be interesting to see where the series goes next.
i loved this movie. idk why its so underrated. it was unnerving, brutal, gorey, scary and all around awesome. people say they hate the "ghost mom" but it wasn't supposed to be a ghost it was supposed to show what visions michael sees and how crazy he becomes. it doesn't ruin the origianal at all it just adds on to it. it brought back halloween and made it scary again instead of making it funny like ressurection and h2o did to the series.
Posted By: PromNight2008 at 12:10am, October 5, 2009
Not a very good movie at all. I enjoyed Zombie's remake, but this was just too much. Horrifically bad dialogue. Good actors (Brad Dourif) giving terrible performances. Little to no substance other than multiple stabbings. Where was the Halloween theme? I can forgive the mask, but that's just too much. I did like the cinematography, though. Zombie always has at least that going for him.
Posted By: DrunkDrawing at 12:01am, September 29, 2009
As someone who was not a big fan of the originals I loved both of Zombies adaptations. Brutal dark dirty...Zombie saved Halloween for me
While I cant call myself a huge fan of his work, I like Rob Zombie enough, but I can certainly admit that his earlier films are flawed. I especially didn't like the Halloween remake and can honestly say the Halloween franchise is one of my favorites EVER.
That sad, I cant imagine what people didn't like about this. It was trippy, exploitative, ultra violent, visually stunning and surreal. It only references the original series in echoes (specifically, sequels 2, 4 and 5), and when it does, it's handled as if the entire series was some bad dream that you only remember pieces of.
And that's just what we get here, an arabesque, blood-is-thicker-than-water, inspired, fever-dream, about blood, filled with blood, and populated with characters with other people's blood-on-there-hands. It's not approached as if it were trying to deliver a chapter of something we know, in fact, the tone of it is nothing like the previous remake. It's delivered as if the events in every Halloween film that exists, have been elevated in the minds of it's characters, to the status of myth. Imagine that when you sit down, forget the specifics of the original franchise, allow it to take you someplace else, and you will enjoy this satisfying psycho-trip through Laurie's hell.
Shamefully under rated.
pros.
1. Michea Meyers was great. Tyler Mane can play the shit out of non speaking characters.
2. . . . I got nothing else.. sorry.
Cons.
1. The dialogue was pure shit. plain and simple. do we need a three minute scene of nothing but blood spitting and "fuck" said over and over in the first 5 minutes of the movie. I swear it was all downhill from there.
2. Loomis was not even secondary. he was some bullshit subplot.
3. If this was truely Zombie's movie, and not for fans, you should have kept it to yourself jackass.
4. Scout Taylor Compton is a hack. Daniell Harris should have been the lead form the get go.
5. His wife has been on and in everyhting since white zombie. shes pretty to look at in the right light, THATS IT. Even in the Toolbox murders she was shit. For the love of god, brain that whore next time she gets to thinking she should have a bigger role.
6. Zombie should stick to JUST directing. I love his style, but his writing is on par with his lyrics in his rock band. Tarantino he is not. Stop trying to write like it.
and I am spent... I have wasted enough life on this crap fest. after this, Micheal is dead to me. DEAD!!!
Was so excited to see this movie..... wasnt as good as zombies first attempt...Would love to see more gore.. Guess he decided to go with LOUD instead. over all not to bad.
i really dont see what all the bad talk is about. u people were expecting a good ol' jamie lee curtis halloween movie. but that's not what it was, it was rob zombies take on halloween. the first remake he had to follow the script, not this one. it's actually a good movie you can tell he put some of his spice in it because of the fucked up family table (house of 1,000 corpses). pretty good and very brutal.
Posted By: immortaldeath at 4:58pm, September 22, 2009
rob zombie cant make halloween any worse can he? i guess so,this movie was a complete let down. i was so pumped for this, i thought zombie would really come through and make Myers scary again, but he just made him a pissed off grunting homeless Santa. this was a violent movie but not in a good way, i mean i could have takin a dump came back and myers would STILL be stabbing the same character like wtf man no need for that. the only good parts of the movie were Mane as Myers and Brad as Sheriff Bracket they are great actors. one last thing that was a disappointment imo was Scout she was annoying as hell i really wanted her to get slaughtered after 45mins she really pissed me off. what a let down
frist 20 mins of the movie was the best then it slowly went down from there i hated dr. losis the ending really sucked the deaths was well done tho
Posted By: totalburke at 10:52am, September 21, 2009
this movies idea or plot was great. Rob Zombie never has disapointed me before and he still hasn't, but the ending was a little weird. from house of 1000 corpses and devil's rejects was absolutley awesome and the remake of halloween was great with how it tells u konw like how shit went down and this came out and it blew me away and i havent seen el superbeasto but im getting it tomorrow for sure.
The movie has its faults, but all in all I really liked this film. Thought Zombie did a great job, and made Michael one brutal badass. Still believe that all those who oppose these movies because Zombie helmed them and believe he killed the franchise are idiots. He brought it back, the other turds in the series brought it down. His re-imaging was just that, a re-imaging, and I thought he did a good job, with the exception of ghost mom.
Posted By: googoomuck at 1:40pm, September 19, 2009
Very entertaining movie,rob zombie did a great job, loved scout taylor compton,this one made me feel like i was watching gore gore girls, i wasnt taking it seriously it was all for the fun of it and the brutal kills,taylor mane is great in this one but the horse and the ghost that didnt really do it for me,he fucked up there...anyways really entertaining,if your not a rob zombie fan then really don't watch it cause you'll be giving it an obvious bad review.
Funniest movie of 2009, I'm sure not on purpose. I can understand that Zombie wanted to go his own way with the "Halloween" franchise and the infamous Michael Myers character but sometimes, when handling with such a delicate movie series, you can't change too much without having backlash to follow. I cannot face the fact that the killer in this movie was Michael Myers. Instead, I pictured him as mindless killing machine with barely no motives and no point. I can understand how Zombie wanted to give Myers a more human touch but it almost completely blurs the line that seperates Myers from any other serial killer. I'm sure this has all been said before so I'll cut it short. This movie would have been five times better if the title didn't include the word "Halloween."
Posted By: gina_spicoli at 5:18pm, September 16, 2009
of course i liked it im a big halloween fan always have been. rob just used a diff kinda style it made me jumpy and it was kinda brutal, kept me entertained the whole time.. i jus didnt like how they made loomis out to be.. the sheriff was more like the good dude instead. it was good though
Posted By: Dunkelheit at 4:22pm, September 16, 2009
Regardless of its few flaws, the gore and brutality stood out and kept me entertained throughout the whole film. I admire Rob's vision.
glorious! IMO, waaaaaaaay better than the original Halloween II (i know its not a remake of the Halloween II) i loved every minute of this film. its strange and a little twisted. lives up to its hype, i think. well done, Mr. Zombie
All I gotta say is I enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
Posted By: FDfangoria2 at 7:19pm, September 14, 2009
Okay, i saw this movie a week after the release and i must say i was very excited and i am a huge fan of the Remake from 2007. So i was very excited to see where Laurie would end up.
Upon the first 5 minutes, i was already very confused and VERY disappointed. It was not as bloody as everyone claims and it had swear words in very random points where it was like "was that really necessary?" Some of the gore factor was very cool but otherwise it was one of the most disappointing films i've seen in a LONG time. I even compared this film to the HORRIFIC "Dragon Wars: D-WAR" This movie was a HUGE letdown.
The whole white horse thing seemed like they had pulled that out of their butt to come up with some reason to have a sequel. This was one of the most unneeded sequels in the history of sequels.
I was disappointed that they had to add in some random flashback that had no relevance to the first film to have some kind of weird disturbing story in the second film.
I was very frustrated i had spent 10 dollars on this movie. I would not watch it again nor would i even rent this. This movie was way longer than it should have been maybe 25 minutes too long.
This was the worst movie all year and the worst horror film since "Pulse".
I'm going to rate this with a one. and if i could give a zero i would the only thing that made this movie somewhat watchable was the occasional jump scare scene. Absolutely one of the worst films of all time. This was a disgrace to the Halloween series.
Although i do plan on seeing Halloween 3D i think they need to let this franchise die.
Posted By: Chris is Dead at 12:34am, September 13, 2009
I saw This opening weekend and hated it, but after a friend said i should watch it again, with an "open mind" I stand firmly behind my first take of it, as a matter of fact even though i paid nothing for it, i want to BE paid to see it.
Sheri zombie and a white horse THROUGHOUT the flick..Why? this isn't a white zombie video
Posted By: godsblade at 12:24am, September 13, 2009
First, I love Rob Zombie, Second, and more importantly, I love Halloween. Robs interpretation of the first is great... true to form with the story, mood, and fans expectations.
With the second, and I could write some long winded review and opinion but I won't, it just stunk. Michael doesn't make noise, Dr. Loomis isn't a pompous ass, and Weird Al should NEVER EVER be in a serious horror film. I am seriously disappointed.
Posted By: StrangeKid at 10:41pm, September 12, 2009
Let me begin by saying that I consider myself among the legion of Rob Zombie fans that can trace his career to Gods on the Voodoo Moon. With that in mind I must admit that I have tried to approach his film career with the same enthusiasm (if not slight trepidation) and was rewarded with two great Zombie productions: House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. Zombie seems to be at his best when he lets his imagination run a few laps in the labyrinth of his mind before bringing lightning to the beast. Unfortunately, in Halloween 2, it seems he let it loose a little too soon.
As with his original Halloween "reinvention," Zombie's H2 provides the viewer with a disparate mind trip that, while filled with a bare bones realism all its own, is split by its own brutality. The 15 minutes or so that form the film's introduction prove to be the truest testimonial of Zombie's powerfully sinister vision, giving the viewer a bleak game of cat and mouse that culminates in pulse-pounding crescendo of bloody screams.
And then... the seams begin to unravel. What follows for the duration of the movie are snippets of artistic filmmaking and editing seemingly stiched together rather forcibly by a lack of time, inexperience or exhaustion. It is very true that Zombie makes H2 his own film, breaking so far away from the previous series of films that really all that remains is the name Myers and while it can be inherently entertaining to watch the result is a heroine that lacks any sense of redemption and a [hollow] killer who's chasing ghosts. Myers is neither a monster or a man, but a shuffling automaton whose motive is too obscured by dispensable metaphor and dream sequences. While I'm not objecting to Zombie's creative interpretation, it would have perhaps been better served by insidious misinformation.
The film does succeeds in achieving a sense of realism that can become quite unsettling. Full of intense, hyper-violent kills (note: not torture porn) and moments of unwavering akward silence H2 is not for the squeamish. In fact, I was quite uncomfortable during the rather long stabbing squences where Myers proceeds to repeatedly bludgeon his victims (bones pop and flesh becomes swollen, pulpy smears). Its in this regards that Zombie begins to inject his sinister brand of brutality that first appeared in House of 1,000 Corpses and where I fully embrace the world in which these characters exist.
Overall its a film that will take time to gestate before it can be fully enjoyed among the ranks of its predecessors, but should prove to be an excellent learning experience for Zombie in preparation for whatever his next project may be. And as Zombie said back in Rue Morgue Issue 70 regarding his first effort: "I think the only reason to get upset about a remake was if there was some kind of law that dictated that, 'Okay, if a movie gets remade, then all copies of the original must now be destroyed!' Then get upset." So if you're a fan of Zombie, enjoy the film for what it is. And if not? Then there's always Carpenter's 1978 classic.
Posted By: ghostslasher13 at 12:11am, September 12, 2009
I have to admit it. I liked this film. Its not great or anything but its good. The kills and gore are brutal. Tyler mane is agreat Michael Myers. There's alot of things that are cool about this film. The only flaws are the scenes with Michael's Mom and his younger self. Brad Douriff is great in this and I'm glad to see him get alot of screen time. It is better than most of the other Halloween films next tim though they need to skip out on all the "FORCED" cussing, it always seemed out of place. Other than that. Its pretty good.
I Loved It Yeah The Grunting Sucked But The Brutality Of Michael Was Awesome.
Scout Was The Shit And Loomis Turning
In To A Dick Funny Love The Random Scary
Fucking Weird Images. But Whatever You
Say About The Film I Loved It Saw it 3 Times
In The Theaters Love Zombie Love Michael Myers
I was really on the fence about this movie when I saw it. It was brutal as hell, more so than a lot of what i've seen and I've pretty much seen it all, and incredibly fuckin weird. SO I saw it again a week later, and decided i REALLY like this movie. It's simple, yes, and has a lot of problems like everyone is saying, but there's something about it that i just can't explain that's just so damn likable, i dunno. It's surreal, has some WEIRD dream shit goin on (wtf was with those pumpkin things?!), but the fact that it was actually original, while at the same time being a sequel to a remake of a movie in a series with 8 entries, is incredibly impressive. And even more impressive is that the movie DOES leave an impression. Whether for better or for worse, you're most likely going to have this movie stuck in your head for some time after you see it. I did, which is why I had to se it again a week later, even my friends who saw it and didn't like it found themselves thinking and talking about it for days afterward. Kudos to RZ for makin the movie he wanted to make, and a movie that really sticks with you. 8/10.
The look of Halloween 2 is excellent as well as the violence and imagery. The main problems with the movie take place when Michael's mother and little Michael show up. Their appearances are completely overdone and that gets frustrating. There are a few other problems too. However, if you can forgive the film's flaws, it is entertaining and many of the scenes are very well done. Rob Zombie has created a Halloween unlike any other.
Posted By: SatinkMic at 8:06pm, September 10, 2009
i saw this movie and i thougtht it was pretty good but i have to say the grunting was not good but when i saw this one it didnt really feel like a halloween movie. the remake is one of my favorites but i just thought it didnt really follow the first i still liked it though rob zombie is great director.
Posted By: YoungHorror at 7:51pm, September 10, 2009
Man, Zombie took some biiiiig risks with this one. He wanted everything to be new, and most of the new stuff was bad. First and foremost, the grunting was bad. Comepletely ruined Michael's scariness, along with his face being shown so much with a huge beard and stuff so that he looks like your average bum. And the white horse and Mrs. Myers came up waaay too much, and that was really annoying. And the over the top cussing just seemed unnatural and not good. The gore and violence was excellent, very well done and very brutal. Not worth seeing it in the theaters.
Posted By: bunnyracer420 at 11:26am, September 10, 2009
Loved this movie!! Had a "H1000C" meets "Halloween" feel to it! Deff. felt more like Zombie. (Again if you dont enjoy RZ films your probly not going to like this movie.) I loved it. Very diff., great kill scenes! Mad they didn't use Daeg Faerch for the young Michael. Great story (kinda helps tie Halloween 5 into the series better than the original) Lots of blood, lots of "jumpy scenes". Personally liked it better than the original Halloween 2. Deff one to add to my collection! :D
RZ make yet another masterpiece! Cant wait for more films like this!
i find the anti Rob Zombie VS pro Rob Zombie war very entertaining.
i enjoy Rob Zombie's take on Halloween. i think he combined all the right existing elements with enough background, story, characters, and gore. H2 was a tall glass of good.
I must say it wasnt bad at all. Could have been better sure. But come on people, are they really trying to win Academy Awards here? And I still think it was better than Halloween 3,4,5 6 and 7. Laters...........
Posted By: flesheater123 at 10:55pm, September 8, 2009
Good disturbing movie, leaves you chilled to the bone after... The acting was like every other zombie movie. So theres not much to talk about there. Mcdowell played a good asshole dirtbag. And it was fucked that Laurie will be the killer in the 3rd movie. It was gory in spots. Over all it did what it was suppose to.
I was freaked out with the pumkin people in that dream.
Movie was great! Did a great job with Laurie's character! Wasn't so much one of those horror movies that makes you jump but it definitely makes you cringe!
I'm not sure if I liked this movie or not. There are parts I like and then others that left me confused. I enjoyed the fact that Meyers is not some super being but somehow just survived the gun shot. I didn't take his mother as being a ghost but instead something that was in his mind that he was projecting as real. Something interesting i thought would of been a great direction in the movie was to actually have Meyers be dead and have his sister be the killer. This would show some deep connection between the famly and make this seem even more realistic. This of course could be interpreted in the film as all the killing she was around for, also when she throws up it could have been her reaction to eating the dog. But this is just deep thinking an has many holes, how could she survive being hit by two grown men with ball bats. But by changing a few things this could have been the idea of the second movie. I was more curious if anyone else had the thought of Laurie being the killer?
WOW!! I visit this site all the time and read everyone's reviews of movies and most times agree, and I have to say that I am a huge fan of horror films including most installments of HALLOWEEN. I think that this is THE BEST HALLOWEEN MADE!! I have never been a huge fan of Rob Zombie infact I don't like any of his films other than HALLOWEEN "re imagining" and H2 I just thought the way he presented the characters in this film was right what you might think they'd be like after living through pure hell a year before, and I thought the Michael character was what Michael should've ALWAYS been extremely brutal with no compassion, as far as Michael appearing "maskless" I loved that to me it made him appear "human." I will agree though if you're looking for a remake of the original HALLOWEEN 2 you're probably very disapointed but I was hoping for a totally different movie and I was very impressed, this is a very dark depressing disturbing violent movie and my wife "who never watches horror movies" went with me and when we left I asked her what she thought and she said she felt disturbed because she felt like that type of Michael Myers could be real "not just a supernatural being that could never die!" I'm sorry for all the rambling but to me it was everything I always thought Michael should be!!
Posted By: napalmfuzz at 9:11pm, September 7, 2009
Sometimes I feel like I was the only person on earth that was able to watch Rob Zombie's Halloween, without watching it through the eyes of a Halloween fanboy. If you're going to compare the two films, shot by shot, then of course John Carpenter's original is the superior film. However, if you can manage to watch Rob Zombie's Halloween, without comparing it to the original, it's a good watch. I feel it's a well done, competent film.
So, suffice it to say, when I started seeing constant TV spots for H2, I was kind of stoked. Unfortunately, what when I came out of the theater after seeing H2, I couldn't help but feel disappointed. I made the mistake of watching "The Devil's Rejects" the week prior to seeing H2, so my hype meter was in overdrive. What I was given, not only fell short of The Devil's Rejects", it fell short of Halloween.
Rob Zombie publicly admitted to not wanted to be involved in this sequel. In my honest opinion, you can tell that his heart was not in this film. It felt half-assed. I felt that a good portion of the film would have been better left on the cutting room floor. I was also upset with the device used to bring Sheri Moon-Zombie back for the sequel. I was also disgusted with what Zombie had done with the Dr. Loomis character.
Don't get me wrong, the sequel is most definitely more brutal, bloody, and gory. Several of the kills were very well done. It also had a very effective opening sequence. The problem for me was, I felt that there was too many unnecessary sequences throughout the film. The film could have done without all of the flashback sequences, as well as the weird, quick cut, music video style sequences. In my opinion, if Zombie were to go back to the cutting board, cut the opening sequence, some of the kills, and the end from H2, and splice them to the end of H1, it would be a much better experience. Here's hoping Zombie releases an "Expansion pack" for the first film.
This movie is clearly Rob Zombie's vision. I believe this film is the definition of a film just for Rob zombie's fans. Is it his best film? no. It does have a couple flaws. The violence is over the top and very, very brutal. The story behind it all is strange, yet it works for the movie. The new actor who plays young Michael Myers is not very good, But he doesn't play a big role.
All in all, if you are looking for a cliched Halloween flick, this isn't your movie. But if you are a Rob Zombie fan or a big time horror fan, i recommend you check this out.
Score 8.5
Posted By: gordoshorror at 1:23pm, September 7, 2009
was not very happy about this movie.saw it when it came out.Rob zombie change the whole story line and he made it like his other movie.it should be called halloween.Dont waste you money seening this movie.
Great movie. Beautifully done on 16mm and no cg effects. Thats what horror movies should be all about. I'm sick and tired of all these shitty horror movies that people fall in love with because its all fake blood and guts. Horror movies take time and tons of different shots to get one good effect on it. Thats what this movie had. Rob Zombie really knows how to work a camera and pay close attention to detail and lighting. I guess people are just stupid now days and would much rather see a bunch of cars blow up with cg limbs flying all over the place for someone to make money. It breaks my heart to see movies making money that have shitty acting and horrible cgi when there is such a great movie like Halloween 2.
Posted By: Movie Tyrant at 8:14pm, September 6, 2009
I seem to be really forgiving of movies, example: I liked Rob Zombie's remake. I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. I'm torn between like and love while watching H2. Rob Zombie captured the entertainment value like no other Halloween film has before, but all the while failing in other areas.
He said 'I want to make my own film', but his own film isn't a Halloween film. I appreciate everything Rob Zombie tried to do with H2, but just so much was a hit and miss. And, as much as I loved it, I will admit that it isn't even close to a Halloween flick.
Posted By: tom holiday at 6:24pm, September 6, 2009
I really wanted to enjoy this film but it just wasn't in the cards. He are some of the reasons really turned me off.
1. Having the first half an hour a dream sequence. Didn't have to do this. It would have been alot better if it was real. Especially when i liked the stuff in the hospital. What a missed opportunity to really deliver the goods.
2.Macking loomis a jerk. I didn't like this at all. Why make him a jerk. I was hoping he was going to be the same character. what a shame. Especially when i was beginning to like him.
3. The stuff with myers mother and the white horse. I didn't care for this. Whats frustrating is that there was so much of this. It really took away from the film.
4. the lightning was good. It was just a little too dark at times. It was hard to see michaels face. I think it been better if there was a little more light. The film could have been great. What a shame. The film really had promise. I liked the remake better then this. But thats not saying much. Maybe next time rob will do better or learn from his mistakes.
Posted By: Novfanaion at 6:01pm, September 6, 2009
This horror started out very well, although Buddy did seem like a nice guy... poor Buddy.
Anyways, I thought that this was quite a bit better than the first Zombie remake. I liked how it showed Laurie's attempt at coping with her new found glory (finding out she was Michael's sister), and how you could notice her slowly falling apart and going insane throughout the course of the movie.
Another thing I liked was the new variety of kills. In the first remake, for example, Michael always tends to just, well, stab everyone and everything. Not that there's anything wrong with stabbing, I mean that shit is going to hurt, but I would prefer to see some variety, and HALLOWEEN delivers. Notable kills include, Michael stomping on the guys face with his big ol' work boots, stabbing the nurse in the back of the head... multiple times, and of course, sawing off the hillbilly's head with a kitchen knife (though much of it was blanked out, or looking somewhere else).
Now, the only thing that I really disliked about HALLOWEEN 2, were those scenes where everything goes silent, all except the sound of Michael breathing. Used one too many times. Although the first couple times it really did add some suspense to the scene, because you knew something bad was going to happen when all went silent.
All in all, this was a great movie. 2 thumbs up for Rob Zombie.
8/10
Posted By: horrorfan25 at 4:50pm, September 6, 2009
Being a bit skeptical going into the theatre, I must say I was impressed. Rob Zombie dissatisfied me because his lack of originality and uneven pacing ruined it for me. For every department he lacked in his remake, he improved in. The film delivered in terms of gore and grotesqueness, but also rises above cookie-cutter sequels because his rendition is no twin and his characters are more flourished and developed in this sequel. Aside from the over-abundant use of profanity and some brutal deaths that could have been excised from the project, most notably the dog scene, Halloween II is overall a solid effort. Well done.
It was better than the first Zombie remake, but jesus h. christ- did he have to keep showing his wife and that white horse every 2 mins?? Yes, we know that is your wife and we know that is a white horse! There were some great lines I am still quoting daily ("7 feet of f***tard being my number 1). I loved the start of it, but making it a dream?? WTF? That hurts... But the end did kinda redeam it for me, I liked the craziness of it.
I guess some people just are only ready to see the same movie over and over again. I think this movie was awsome,yes there were some iffy parts but by the end I was a beleiver. It was original and hard hitting I loved it,You can bash it if you want but I think rob zombie has been good for horror because its fresh.
Ps. sherry moon is worth watching even if she is hanging up fly tape.
Wow... really? This film felt RIGHT on the mark for me. I was expecting a Rob Zombie film and I got one. This being his fourth film, I can say that all of his works shares VERY similar things and tones and total grittiness and absolute sadism. That being said, this film just felt like an extension of his other work and in my opinion, hasn't lost it's entertainment value... yet. But seriously! This film does NOT deserve fucking 1's and 2's. What is this?? Troll 2? OBSESSED?? The film by far is not perfect and could have been improved. Some parts did drag and a lot of editing could have been done better, but that aside, nothing was putrid about this sequel at all Hats off to Mr. Zombie, he hasn't lost ALL of his filmmaking talent yet...
Since the day it was announced that Rob Zombie would be delivering us a "reimagining" of John Carpenter's classic HALLOWEEN, there has been a schism in the horror world unlike any I have seen in my 20 something years as a horror fan. At first I thought it was HALLOWEEN "purists" vs. every other horror fan but my friend squashed that theory as he is as devout a HALLOWEEN (the entire series) fan as there is. He loved Rob Zombie's revisioning for it's brutality, realism and all the other good shit that came with it...the same reason's why I loved it. So throwing that theory out the window I thought about it some more...and some more. I read all kinds of reviews online and then read other reviews by those same people and nothing connected. The same reasons they praised one movie, they bashed Rob Zombie for! They excused every flaw and weakness of one director but went out of their way to crucify Zombie for similiar flaws! Is this a conspiracy? Why does he deserve such disdain?
John Carpenter's HALLOWEEN was not a classic because of it's intriguing plot or Oscar-worthy perfomances. It was a classic because it was the start of something that would change horror movies for ever...and as a life-long horror "junkie" I am grateful! It was a simple stalk and slash movie about an escaped lunatic who goes back to his hometown to kill babysitters for no reason! All the reasoning came in the sequels! Zombie took a one dimensional story and added depth...depth and a brutally violent tone that is so rare in today's lame ass big budget horror.
Zombie was even ridiculed for scenes and dialogue that Carpenter was praised for...i.e. "Was that the boogeyman?", "Yes, I do believe it was"...diehard HALLOWEEN fans said it was corny, did they realize it was in the original?!
Hatin just to hate...I don't get it.
I saw Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN II twice this opening weekend and I will say that it was definitely better the 2nd time I saw. The "expectation factor" always affects the first viewing of any movie you've been waiting for. The focus of this movie is primarily the psychological effects that the Micheal Myers massacre has had on Laurie Stroud and the unfinished business at hand for Micheal. It's a year later and she is now a damaged teenage mess, haunted by nightmares of Micheal and murder and all the terrible shit that would haunt a survivor of an incident like that. The nightmare sequences throughout the movie, including the opening scene, give us a look as to what's going on inside her head...and it's obviously FUCT! Zombie does a great job with these scenes, some surreal and some seemingly real. She goes from being the book-nerdy innocent girl in the first film to the tramp-stamped, rebellious teen trying to bury all the shit goin on inside her head.
Micheal Myers has his own dreams, or visions, in this one also. The difference is that his visions are leading him to murder. He is haunted by the "ghost" of his mother and his former self (as a kid in the clown suit, before he went batshit fucking crazy), and a white horse, whose symbolism is explained in the very beginning of the film. These visions lead Michael on his journey to find Laurie in attempt to bring the family back "together". Finally! A reason why Michael Myers' is a brutal, murdering, beast! To be with his mother again. The only one he had any affection for in the first was his mother and Baby Boo (Laurie), so to me, this makes complete sense. And the imagery is amazing. It let Sherrie Moon Zombie act just enough to not expose her hit-or-miss acting skills.
Dr. Loomis plays the part of the fame whore asshole, profiteering off of the whole ordeal at the expense of everyone else's misery with a bestselling book about Myers. I thought this was great twist on the Loomis character and definitely could see this happening in real life. While his character doesn't serve much purpose in terms of the plot, it's funny and real, and he plays it well. Zombie did a good job of making me despise this character and that was his point. Downside...when the father of one of Laurie's friends, who was murdered in the 1st movie, approaches Loomis at a booksinging. The father show him a picture of his daughter and Loomis doesn't even recognize her. If he spent the last 15 years of his life completely engulfed in Micheal Myers' life, wouldn't he at least know who the victims were of the massacre? Names, pics, facts? WTF?!
The killings were even more brutal than the first one. Absoltely wonderful!!!
I read alot of reviews by so-called "horror fans" saying there were too many stabs and whatever the fuck!? What does that mean? Is there ever enough?!
The head stomping scene is easily one of the coolest scenes in HALLOWEEN history and rivals the face smashing scene in IRREVERSIBLE! The scene where he is about to kill the hillbilly chick in the truck and all goes silent except for the sound of Myers' snarling is fucking amazing! The silence in the Annie Brackett murder scene adds an unbelievable amount of tension also. These are 2 Zombie moments that standout among his career so far.
I won't get into the ending, but will say that it was good enough for me and could go a few different ways in terms of interpretations. For me, the best part of the ending was in the closing credits, he uses a cover of "Love Hurts"...a song Rob was crucified for using in the stripclub/curbside scene from the 1st movie, which I thought was brilliant!
While this movie is by no means a masterpiece, it was amazingly entertaining and exactly what it was supposed to be...BRUTALLY VIOLENT & WONDERFUL!
I just wish that all of the horror fan/critics would explain to me when saying the word "fuck" too many times or too many "stabs" in a death scene became something that was BAD!? When did horror fans become such pussies?
Q: What's the difference between jam and jelly?
A: You can't jelly your dick up a horror critic's ass!
Posted By: nkyphantom at 10:52pm, September 5, 2009
it's sick i loved it this is a brutal horror movie. this is the kind of killer i want to see on the screen u know. loomis big dissapointment though god i couldn't stand him but again the movie was the shit, and f*** final destination 4 i aint spendin my money to sit shoulder to shoulder wit teenie boppers textin threw the whole movie
Posted By: Jcoles5000 at 10:00pm, September 5, 2009
Just saw this for the second time today and let me say Zombie delivered the goods. Myers was so intense. I couldn't believe this was the same character I laughed at during Halloween Resurrection. It makes me sad that the Weinsteins won't let this be the last but I will always be grateful that Rob brought back the intensity of the character I love. I know that this didn't make as much money as FD4 but this isn't a movie where bitchass kids can sit in the back and giggle and I appreciate that. Myers lives on thanks to Rob Zombie.
Posted By: Repo!Screams at 6:15pm, September 5, 2009
what a piece of crap..
Posted By: T y r a n t at 9:27am, September 5, 2009
jezz did any one c the movie really it was powerfull and stupid at the sametime the roles changed to much way to much in a sequel u cant changed everones characteristics lik Dr loomis he acts different all togather and gurl and lil michael well hell it was brutality but the story & ending dats bad 4 the last film
I've seen it and guess what it wasn't horrible. I actually thought this movie was okay. I liked it better than the remake mostly for the fact it was different maybe a little TOO different if you know what I mean. First of all Myers is brutal as hell in this movie and shows no mercy. I actually think he might have been too brutal as crazy as that sounds. I know the whole dream thing with sherri and the white horse might have been a bit much but I see what Zombie was getting at. I actually liked loomis's involvement in this movie. I do think he had a purpose in that even though he was all about his book through out the movie
(SMALL SPOILER) in the end he still was a doctor for michael even though he didn't end up doing much :) (END SPOILER)
As far as the ending goes I kind of figured that was what was going to happen. I felt that was what they were going for in the first one but they just went all the way this time. I actually didn't think this was all that bad. I actually walked out more dissappointed from the friday the 13th remake than this which I really didn't walk out dissappointed at all. It wasn't great by any means but it definitely wasn't all that bad.
Posted By: groundgamer at 6:06am, September 4, 2009
Going head to head with The Final Destination isn't easy, but, they are both just as good. Rob Zombie, yet again, delivers a great, slasher epic, not as good as his first remake, but still good enough to me. Halloween II, a simple plotted, Myers revenge story, with gory kills, and some stunning acting work (except some plot holes and stupid decisions). Halloween II delivers what you would expect from a modern, slasher remake, thrills and suspense, with some heart pounding moments and some great, eree atmospheric scenes. Halloween II is a great example of great, modern horror at it's best.
Zombie has certainly made his on Halloween film this time around. And kudos to him for trying to take a stale and formulaic series in a new direction. I loved how the film looked, and I really appreciated the character development this time around. Zombie still needs to work on building suspense.
Posted By: BK's Finest at 2:24pm, September 3, 2009
I'm agree with Undeath... Good movie
Posted By: navyblues at 12:30pm, September 3, 2009
this movie was everything i wanted it to be. it was stylish - the cinematography was beautiful and original. it was scary and gruesome. it did a HELL of a lot better at addressing myers' motivation than THORN. it was a great length - no ridiculous drawn out chase at the ending like his original remake and so many other ill timed horror movies. it was seasonal! you can't say the spirit of all of our favorite holiday wasn't alive and well in this movie. it put a great spin on laurie's post halloween mindset. man, i can't really say a bad word about this fuckin movie.
most of all, it was original. which is what i look for in a movie, especially a fucking remake. all those 0-2 skulls out there...what the fuck did you want?! bring on the blob!
This has got to be the single most over-analyzed, over-scrutinized and polarizing horror movie in the genre's history.
As is true of anything, it's best to go into it without too many preconcieved notions or attitudes, which isn't an easy task for regular BD visitors.
That said, Rob Zombie has delivered a refreshing departure from the stale and extremely fromulaic approach taken in most of the previous 'Halloween' films.
Up until now, each entry in the franchise (with the exception of part 3, of course) has tried with varrying degrees of success/failure to recapture the magic of Carpenter's original by essentially rehashing the same material again and again. 'Halloween II' takes Michael Myers and drops him in Zombieland. As a Rob Zombie
film, it's pretty effective. As a 'Halloween' film, it's a departure for sure, but not an unwelcome one in my opinion. Remember the very first time you watched 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre'? How unsafe the experience was and how you just didn't know what Tobe Hooper had in store for you from one scene to the next?
Zombie's films have the same sort of uncertainty about them. I like that. I would far sooner take this ride than continue to be spoonfed the same old, typical slasher fromula that one can expect from Platinum Dunes. I found the surrealistic elements creepy, tripped out and mostly effective. And much has been said about
the gratuitous gore in this one, but I found most of the kills (while extremely brutal) to be largely implied or off-screen. This speaks to Zombie's ability to make the viewer feel as if they're watching more grusome morbidity than they actually are. The movie isn't flawless, but honestly, none of them are. Halloween or not,
this is easily the best slasher flick I've seen in years.
i'm not a die hard halloween fan, so zombie's remake of the original halloween was my first taste of the series. i thought the original was done quite well, but still lacked some polish. after hearing that zombie's remake was 'half his, half the original' i was giving him the benefit of the doubt and looking forward to a halloween film completely in his vision. i got it, and boy was i hoping for more than what zombie gave me!
PLOT (1 out of 3 points possible)
i understand zombie was trying to make this film more about what exactly goes on inside michael's head, but some of the sequences seem disjointed. the dreams/visions michael has throughout the film are done pretty well i thought, but the symbolism could've been toned a notch or two. i was actually hoping for more in depth look into michael's character, but i didn't get it. the plot itself slowly goes from 'good horror movie' to 'typical slasher movie' in about 50 minutes i'd say. i was hoping for a good solid mix of 'zombie weirdness' and 'horror movie', but i got only a small dose of each.
ACTING/CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (1 out of 3 points possible)
overall, pretty below average- especially for a film that was getting a good amount of attention. let's start with michael since he's the reason we came to see this flick. he now makes sounds when he stabs/stomps/etc, and i still don't know what to think of it. yes, it makes him more human- but why has he changed from the first film? i didn't mind his new threads in the second half of the film, nor did i mind the mad beard he grows (he's walking around for a year, he's bound to grow some facial hair and need some new clothes). his killings were at first meaningful, but as the film progressed they seemed to get away from the main focus of the film, turning itself into a typical slasher film. after seeing this, i have now submitted my vote as to not having zombie's wife show up in any of his movies anymore. she's not engaging as an actress, her character always ends up flat and stale. young michael is a different actor now, which disappointed me- i was hoping for some consistency from the characters (i think he was the only one if i'm not mistaken). laurie as a character is a mixed bag. when she's scared, she's pretty decent- but when she's serious, i get the feeling the talent glass is half empty. loomis is acted decently enough, but the character is pretty horrible- more or less pulls a complete 180 from the first zombie halloween. the only bright spot in acting was, to me, laurie's friend from the first movie- she's the only character i had any emotions for while watching it.
EFFECTS (1.5 out of 2 points possible)
zombie spared no expense on the gore in this film, and its very evident. some of the scenes are down right brutal, but as the film progressed they became unnecessary. the whole 'violence for the sake of violence' argument was felt for me during the end of the strip club scene. if it wasn't for the needless kills that were painfully over the top, i would've given this the full 2 points.
LASTING IMPRESSIONS (.5 out of 2 points)
an entertaining film for what it was, but just not as entertaining as i would have hoped. take this film for what it's worth, it is zombie's vision of the halloween series- so keep that in mind while watching. i would say ill remember some of the kills, but none of the were great by any means (besides the first kill, the morgue driver). there were some good ideas rolling around in this film, but they never really reached the surface- they all got lost in a slasher film.
4 out of 10 points possible
hope you enjoyed my first review.
question: did anyone else notice this or is it just me... when they used shots for michael's face while he has the beard, is that rob zombie??? the beard looked like his, and so did the eyes. just a random question.
*SPOILERS*
Well, where does one start with a movie as awful as this?
Rob has taken all of the bad elements from his remake and here he cranks them up to 11.
Thought the now infamous ‘skull fucking' line was bad. Rob manages to top that with two Ambos talking about ‘fucking corpses’. Yep, this movie sinks to a new low and that’s just in the first 1o minutes.
Didn’t like Annie in the remake coming out with the ‘hey bitches’ line. Here we have one of Laurie’s new friends greeting her with “wot up, dicklickers”. That’s right, the dialogue here is worse than ever . But there’s more to come.
Didn’t really like Loomis much in the remake ? Well get ready to downright loathe the guy in this one. He is now a media whore obsessed with promoting his new book about the murder spree in the first movie and doesn’t care about anyone but himself. His death is not shocking and sad but welcome. You wish that Myers pops up around the half way mark to rip him to shreds. Loomis is so unlikeable you’ll be crying out for Donald Pleasance who I’m sure would be spinning in his grave.
Now let’s move onto the ‘realistic and brutal’ violence that seems to be getting the fanboys all hot and wet. It’s OTT and just repulsive. I almost lost my dinner when Myers attacks the Ambulance driver.
And what is going on with Myers who now grunts like a pig when stabbing someone 475 times!! And why does he now attack random people? In the original franchise he only went after people who got in his way but here he goes out of his way to massacre people. Take the Rabbit In Red sequence. It serves no purpose at all and is just an exercise in violence or the sake of violence which is a major turn off. But as long as it’s ‘brutal and realistic’, hey Rob.
Halloween fans will really be baying for Zombies blood once they see how Myers looks in this film. With his mountain man never seen a razor Father Christmas beard teamed with a rather fetching hobo junkie hoodie jacket and he looks like a bum hippie who has wandered into town to attend the local Renn fair to sell some home made incense.
Feel that everyone, that’s Zombie pushing the spiky dildo in even further.
Laurie is supposedly traumatized in this movie but comes off as annoying and like Loomis, very unlikeable. She’s now a schizo, constantly shrieking and crying and just being someone who we really don’t care about at all. Steve Miner managed to capture the traumatized Laurie pretty well in H20 but here Rob fails once again to even get the main characters state of mind and being correct. When Laurie finds out she is Myers’ sister she doesn’t curl into a ball and retreats to her room to think about things, she jumps up onto a table and just wants to PAAARRTTTYYY!!! That’s how characters cope with life altering situations in H2. They dress up as Magenta from Rocky Horror and hit the nearest hoe down. That has nothing to do with realism but lunacy.
The only character worth giving giving a damn about is Annie and Danielle Harris actually does a good job with her character. It would be great to see her get some decent work in Hollywood besides being cast in redundant remakes.
But the final nail in The Shapes coffin is reserved for Deborah Myers, or actually, the ghost of Deborah Myers. This characters inclusion is nothing but an excuse for Rob to once again cast his wife. She and Myers’ younger self appear in visions to not just Michael, but Laurie as well (WTF!!) and guide him back to Haddonfield after a year living off the land and eating dogs!!! We see her , young Michael and her white horse in several different David Lynch wannabe dream scenes that, like most of this turkey, just make no sense at all. Rob is obviously trying to be all deep here, getting to the psychological root of Myers insanity but it’s hard to buy into this when your laughing your head off.
Well that's all you really need to know aout this abortion of a movie.
The redneck dialoug is here. OTT uber violence is here. Unlikeble characters are here and that;s about it.
Not only Michael Myers, but Halloween fans the world over have been gang raped by Rob Zombie and left for dead. This movie is ugly, stupid and repulsive. Avoid at all costs.
.5 of a skull but the rating drop down aint working properly.
Posted By: gorehunter at 1:32am, September 3, 2009
This sequel looks a tad better than the first. The dream sequences seemed to throw me off. I felt a little lost in the film because of it. Its not easy to understand that the dream sequences are the part that introduces Myers family to the viewer. But who gives a shit. I paid to see horror blood and gore, and I got it. The sound effects such as the knife plunging into each victim was really good. It startles the viewer and sets the mood of the film which is about killing. As for the family part, yea I know that Michael Myers came from a fucked up family and he had issues with his asshole psychiatrist. This part is in it for filler I guess. I see no other reason why he is there. Myers doesnt give a shit if he makes money off his story or not. That's proven in the end.
In general. I find this film entertaining enough but the storyline was just a little too weak to care about the characters.If I was Angel Myers, I would have moved the hell away from there and taken up a serious career. I still don't know if she had a job or not. Selling stuff in a second hand store? Its just wasnt interesting enough to care. The movie still didn't answer the question why does Micheal kill. Yeah I know hes psychotic, but why.
i saw this movie with Shadowhuntr (see below to read her review as well) on opening day because we had such a wonderful time with zombie's Halloween. the movie started and for a good 30 minutes i thought i was in for another awesome movie... then it just turned out to be a dream and it went from really awesome to just down right confusing. it made no sense, micheal had no personality anymore other than crazy slasher guy that sees dead relatives, and it just wasnt as enjoyable. the one scene that bothered me was when he found alice in the house and his "mother" told him to have "a little fun." later we find her almost dead and stripped naked. WTF?! micheal in the first movie was put OFF by sexual acts and here it insinuates that he raped her.
all in all, terrible let down.
Posted By: VeryEvilDead at 10:51pm, September 2, 2009
Not a good movie by any means, but mildly entertaining. There was a lot I hated and only a couple things I enjoyed.
Posted By: soundofmurder at 10:43pm, September 2, 2009
I finally caved in and paid $7 to see Rob Zombie's Halloween 2. I had swore up and down that I would never watch this film because I was so terribly disappointed with his first Halloween film. To my surprise Halloween 2 was a little bit better if unnecessary! I had read and heard that the dream sequences in this film are weird and leave the film and the viewer feeling a bit disjointed. Be that as it may I actually found the dream sequences to be Halloween 2's only redeeming quality. It gives the film a haunting, ethereal atmosphere. The overuse of violence really is not an overuse it's just that you feel absolutely nothing at all for any of the characters. You don't hate them or love them, you just feel...indifferent. Some of the kills/victims do not seem to move the plot along because there is no plot! If there was any sort of plot it died with the "it was all a dream" wrap up of the first scene. The rest of the film lumbers on and on with pointless kill after kill that only reassure us that Michael Myers is a brutal evil killer as if we did not know that already.
In summary, yes we know there is going to be another sequel or reboot or spin off or something. This movie is only there to facilitate this inevitability!
I walked out of the theater thinking, for the first time I might add, that I wish a horror film had less violence and that the only character I felt sorry for was the killer himself (which granted may have been Zombie's plan all along)
To put it even more simply... Halloween 2 gives you the same feeling as a Direct to DVD Steven Segal movie. That hollow empty feeling that you just can't shake... no matter how hard you try...
Posted By: ShadowHuntr at 8:44pm, September 2, 2009
I was sorely disappointed after the credits started rolling. While Zombie's Halloween was, in my opinion, far superior to the original, the sequel dropped all the wonderful input Zombie added to the series.
- POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD -
1. The mother, mini Myers, and white horse. yes, symbolism is all fine and good but there was no point to it. The true significance of it all was never fully explained.
2. The killings. In the Zombie original Myers had motives behind his killings. He killed people, and we cheered! His killings had a reason behind them, be it to punish deviants or to get his sister. In H2 he's thrown that away and kills with the senselessness of the common half-rate slasher.
3. The overuse of 'pagan' symbolism. Yes, we get it, witchcraft = not good. You're oversaturatin' us here pal.
4. Loomis. What an ass.
5. The best part of the movie was just a dream. :/
_ END SPOILERS _
As far as positives...
1. Yay for at least one girl who wasn't a complete slut! Maia is the kind of friend I'd like to have.
2. The cringe factor is a definite 10/10. Very well done effects.
3. Awesome Halloween party.
A very disappointing movie I just witnessed. Rob really has no idea what made the original the classic it is. I mean I'm all for gore(and boy did this movie have plenty of it)but that is not what made the original good. Pure suspense and atmosphere are what made the original terrifying. I think there was literally only one seen that had me in a little(I repeat LITTLE)suspense.
Rob this ISN'T A JASON MOVIE! THIS IS MICHAEL FUCKING MYER'S! Shit why not put Captain Spalding in the movie, because that's another complaint, why does every movie he makes have to be revolved around some trailer park trash family?
Anyways as a stand alone movie not related to the Halloween franchise it would have been good, but in it's current form, it is a disgrace to the Halloween franchise!
Rob Zombie’s second stab at the Halloween franchise is an utter mess, rife with excessive but gratuitous violence and a complete lack of a cohesive storyline.
Halloween 2 continues the tale that Zombie began to tell in 2007’s Halloween. While that film was closer to an actual remake of the original masterpiece, this doesn’t resemble the first Halloween 2 as much, as Zombie opted to get more ‘creative’ and run with his own vision of the evolution of iconic masked murderer Michael Myers. The only problem with that is by doing so, he proceeds to strip him of everything that made him the scariest (and first) slasher to ever grace a movie screen.
Most glaring is the recurring appearance of Myers without his trademark mask. While Myers’ face has been revealed in prior non-Zombie entries, those instances were carefully crafted to be extremely brief and sensible in the grand scheme of the plot. Here, Myers resembles an unshaven vagrant. Not very menacing, to say the least.
But even worse than the Myers character is Dr. Loomis’. Zombie succeeds in totally destroying the role that Donald Pleasence so brilliantly portrayed in a different generation. No blame should fall on Malcolm McDowell, who certainly makes the most of the dreadful material he has to work with. Throughout the majority of the film, Loomis acts like a greedy, uncaring bastard, which is blasphemous, as fans of the character would undoubtedly concur with.
Scout Taylor-Compton and Danielle Harris are two of the few positives, however. Compton delivers her second straight convincing performance as Laurie Strode, not an easy undertaking considering the standard set by her predecessor, Jamie Lee Curtis. And the underrated Harris, playing Annie, manages to turn in her fourth impressive showing (she previously starred as Jamie, Myers’ niece, in Halloween 4 and 5, until J.C. Brandy took over the role before being killed off in Halloween 6).
Zombie’s supposed ‘creativity’ is questionable at best. The film’s most entertaining sequence, set in a hospital in the opening minutes, evokes memories of the original sequel. And Myers’ obsessive desire to please his mother, played by a wooden Sheri Moon Zombie, throughout the film, is gratingly similar to a certain other infamous movie psycho named Jason. And the conclusion conjures up shades of déjà vu as it’s merely a retread of Halloween 4.
In a selfish complaint, an entry in this series without the classic John Carpenter score is already at a disadvantage right out of the gate. But at least Zombie’s knack for selecting just the right music otherwise, is still apparent, namely Peter Frampton and Bachman-Turner Overdrive in Halloween and The Moody Blues in this film.
As for the kills, they mostly reek of a lack of inspiration. Like the onscreen victims, we’re punished with mundane death scenes with a few exceptions, despite their brutality.
This film isn’t in the league of Zombie’s first, and that was no gem (mainly due to killing off Myers’ mystique by exposing so much of his childhood). Rather than pick up from the lame ending of Halloween 2, the series should ignore Zombie’s two contributions and continue where Halloween 8 (Resurrection) left off. And Zombie would be better off concentrating on original horror again, as House of 1000 Corpses and Devil’s Rejects were solid bodies of work.
Remaking the Halloween films can’t be an easy task. And unfortunately for Rob Zombie, that task proved to be a failure.
Posted By: MR.PANCHITO at 2:42pm, September 2, 2009
i just wished rob zombie would really try to fit his characthers dialogue into a more realistic way of speaking instead of pervert and f bomb comments all movie long i mean every now and then a curse word is good i guess but i think halloween 2 could haved been so much better if he didn't make dr loomis a complete asshole and sell out and also if he would just add more suspense to the stalking of michael myers victims it would make the killings better i think..overall it was decent
I really thought I was going to hate this movie but I didn't... though I'm not saying it's anywhere close to a good movie. What bugs me most about Rob Zombie's Halloween is that literally every single character speaks white trash. It's annoying and too vulger. But the kills in this one were pretty good, but there was barely any suspence. I'm just pretty happy that Rob Zombie is out the door. Here is to a new director... please do a good job and make Michael Myers scary again. Hell, he is even scarier in Reserection, lol. But seriously, H2 was a much better attempt than the first.
Saw H2 on Saturday. 30 minutes of good movie. 15 minutes of that was a dream sequence. The Loomis character was a joke. All scenes with Sheri Zombie and young Myers were crap. Zombie successfully killed the Halloween reboot franchise with this one...
Posted By: bloody hello at 6:06am, September 2, 2009
THE WORST FUCKING HALLOWEEN I HAVE EVER SEEN!! THANKS AGAIN ROB ZOMBIE FOR FUCKING UP YET ANOTHER MOVIE!! DO US ALL A FAVOR AND STICK TO MUSIC..U CANT MAKE A DESCENT MOVIE IF YOUR LIFE DEPENED ON IT!!! THIS MOVIE WAS FOR SHIT!! FUCK YOU ROB ZOMBIE!!
Posted By: Anal Yogurt at 4:51am, September 2, 2009
I enjoyed it I had mix feelings going into it, but glad I stayed through the whole thing. The killings in this one were brutal x3 enjoyed that a lot. I didn't enjoy Michale's grunting just didn't sound right. Kinda didn't like the whole him seeing his younger self and his mother and a random white horse, but Sheri's beauty made up for it. :) The soundtrack again was AMAZING. Rob Zombie knows how to put the right tunes into a movie. ;) Scout's acting was fairly better than the last kinda but then again her beauty made up for me. haha :) I plan on seeing this film again, and buying the DVD etc.. I still can't get over those damn killings. Oh and the slow motion scenes too were also kick ass. :D
Pure crap! I was going to write a long review about this movie, but I decided it's not worth it. 50% of this movie doesn't make sense. The strip club/bar scene wtf? Don't waste your money.
Posted By: DeadSeaLights at 8:46pm, September 1, 2009
I really liked the avant-garde style with a sort of retro feel that I thought played well to the overall mood. The settings are interesting and fit well with good use of color and lighting to further deepen the mood. There are some really good songs, and good use of music throughout. Michael is huge and menacing. There’re gobs of blood, and the kills are realistic and brutal and scary. Nomad Michael is like a monolithic beast tearing across the landscape in his hunt for home sweet home, and dear sweet Angel. The female characters are super hot and likeable, so much so that it’s almost ‘too’ sad when some meet their respective ends. H2 stays on point with good intensity throughout and serves as a well devised departure from previous installments. For me, seeing this movie evoked some actual emotion in me, not unlike the first, but unlike so much other hack and stab fan boy scrap.
Rob Zombie did something uniquely worthwhile with what so many would have truly failed to even come close to, and did so unapologetically for the right reasons. I’m personally not sorry he didn’t make the humdrum “remake” that so many people apparently would have preferred. He made something different and cooler (in my opinion better). I suppose I have a few ideas of my own about where things could have worked more effectively (i.e. perhaps scarier), but again, I think this is still so well done that for me the good outweighs the bad.
Absolutely terrible....i truly don't understand what Rob Zombies intentions were with his Halloween series...he is an intelligent horror fan himself...& even moreso than the first this was boring & not scary...along with the unsympathetic, trashy characters who can't complete a sentence without using the word f*ck at least twice...he really dragged a classic through the dirt.
Rob's remake wasn't great, but anyone could tell he was at least trying to move the film in a different direction.
I looked very forward to this film. The trailers and tv spots indicated an amazing film.
However, I was extremely disappointed. All of the interesting scenes were merely dreams. The film is filled with in your face gore, no suspense or terror whatsoever, and total absurd principles.
The white horse idea was just awful and unoriginal. I will surely make a note to never see this film again.
Even though being an avid fan of Halloween and horror films alike, I went in to Halloween II not expecting much. I read all of the negative reviews, and while I agree with their major points, I think a lot of people are just whining.
Deborah Myers as a godlike figure, Michael as a grunting hobo, Laurie goes nuts, asshole Loomis...I have four words. WHO THE FUCK CARES?
Seriously, everyone bitching and whining make up one of two kinds of people. 1)Zombie Haters who made their mind up long before it came out and 2) Remake Haters who masturbate to Carpenter's original. It's pathetic.
Am I saying it was the greatest movie ever? No. Worst movie ever? No. Worst Halloween ever? Hell no! God, part 8 was a mess. I just can't understand how those facts mentioned above can ruin a film. So Michael's nuts...who cares? His mother is there (besides being Rob's wife) because Michael always saw her as a bright light in his life. "Mother is God in the eyes of a child", as the saying goes. Yes, it's a rip-off of Jason (or technically Bates from Psycho)'s infatuation with their mother. It's no big deal. Michael is dressed as a hobo. Ok yeah, because him wearing his trademark jumpsuit and mask while walking down the streets of Haddonfield (where he murdered dozens of people) in the originals was so inconspicuous as if no one noticed? Please. He must've had plenty of time to shave and bathe in the olden days. And people seem to forget the heavy grunting breaths Michael took in the originals too.
The point is this, THIS IS NOT CARPENTER'S HALLOWEEN. It's not going to be the same, it was never intended to be the same, the characters are not the same. Get the fuck over it, and watch the movie. I didn't particularly care for the film, but the reasons people bitch or "walk out" are laughable.
The good points - Rob Zombie's sense of surrealism and direction was fantastic. Most of the scenes were very visually appealing and beautifully shot. The score was great, though it lacked the actual theme until the credits. Brad Dourif - damn! He did such a great job in this film. The gore was nice and the brutality was something Myers has lacked for a long time. Though the shots were shaky, the sound and screams were enough to intensify the shots. The deaths, although not that original, were better than the typical hack and slash format. The nightmare scenes (though hated by most) were very cool, in my opinion and brought a new and refreshing vision to a Halloween legacy that was so stale, it was molding.
Bad - The movie started out wonderfully, but the middle was very slow paced and lacked development. I felt they could've just written out Loomis altogether in this one, since he served no real purpose. The acting wasn't great either. Tyler Mane did a great job reinventing Myers and Brad Dourif was fantastic, but the rest of the cast was lacking something. Even Danielle Haris was missing her usual charm. The ending was different, and probably broke a lot of fan boys hearts, but it was obviously coming.
It was different, but not necessarily in a bad way. It was a nightmarish (and supernatural/mindfucking vision of a world that had been done 10 ways from Sunday and completely tarnished and at least Zombie tried to make it his own. If you have so many complaints, or want to see sequels to the other shitty movies, go ahead and make them. I dare you.
Overall, it was not the best nor worst Halloween. It lacked a lot of development and plot driving scenes, but it was visually appealing enough to gain my respect. Will I buy it? I don't know. We'll have to see, but to all you people bitching. Just grow up.
Posted By: chainsawfoxxx at 6:38pm, September 1, 2009
I have been hearing alot of negative comments about H2...but now that I've seen it I'm going to disagree. It is by no stretch of the imagination a cinematic achievement of any kind but dammit it's entertaining. I'm a nut for movie violence and gore and let me say that Rob definetley delivered! The murder scenes in the strip club were some of the most satisfying murders in any horror movie I've ever seen. Rob is twisted and sick but I really love him for that.
Okay. For a true Halloween fan this movie SUCKED MORE THAN ANY OTHER HALLOWEEN FILM (Including Ressurection and H20)! The only movie this was better than was Halloween 3: Season of the Witch even though that had nothing to do with the Myers story.
Rob Zombie thinks all characters in his stories need long hair and for some reason Michael is now schizophrenic talking to his dead mother. Since when does Myers grunt when he stabs someone. NEVER did he speak a word. Like Jason, he was a silent killer. Rob Zombie should not have been the one to reinvent Halloween or Halloween 2 (H2 Is An AWFUL NAME).
The movie was "okay," but it would not be something that I would be interested in watching again. I think Rob Zombie should go back to doing what he does best: MUSIC! Please stay away from good horror franchises. THANKS ROB ZOMBIE!
I admit that the 15 year part of Myer's life when he was in the asylum was missing from Halloween in the original, but I think those years could have been done better. A true fan of this movie franchise can only agree with me.
A Masterpeice:
Rob Zombie is one screwed up dude, we all know that. He proved it once more in this latest Halloween. The movie started out jam packed and intense, but, SPOILER it turned out to be a dream. BUt to me it was a flashback to what could have happened right after the first. There were in fact a number of dreams in this movie, but none of them passed themselves off as real life, in the opening, subtle things like the mask and jumpsuit looked different, like how thay would be interpretted by laurie in a dream. And the dream where we see the gods of halloween at a table with laurie on it, it was twisted and had elements of reality and fantasy which was how a dream truly is, (like one i had a few nights ago about a pumkin with duck legs and wearing a sweater asking me if i "wanted a peice of it").
The lack of score and halloween theme was dissapointing, but not distracting. You can only hear "bee boop boop bee boop boop bee boop boop bee boop toot" soo many times. The sound effects were fitting and added to the graphic nature of michael. I like how he grunted, and seemed even more determined to " bring boo home".
I don't know about you but when Annie died, i felt terrible, uncomfortable and just plain sad. Although Her character wasn't seen much, we saw her life getting back on track. But all of the characters were very realistic with their behavior after the events of the first film, Lynda's dad, the Bracketts, even.....eeeehk Loomis, who i was glad to see die. The loss of the character is hard, but then again, this is not the old halloween films where the 70 yr old man comes to the rescue, its a new spin that could go in many directions, just hopefully not direct to dvd. Scout gave a wonderful preformance and the film was better than i expected. I wanna see it again. OH and i loved the fact that the three girls dressed up as frankenfurter, magenta, and columbia, that made this movie 10 times better. the only major flaw i saw was in dr. loomis's hotel room, isn't this movie supposed to be in like 1994 or 5? he had a nice HD flat screen, tsk tsk, there mighta been a cell phone too, cant remeber, but this film is great to look at and scary to watch, this life long fan is very pleased.
Posted By: krugerkid13 at 11:52am, September 1, 2009
Being a huge fan of Rob Zombies past work I was very excited for this which is why I attended the midnight showing thursday. Twenty minutes into it I was like "this is great nothing but brutality". Well 3 grunts, 2 minutes and a dream sequance and I was on my way out of the theater. Fuck this movie. Did however watch the final destination the next day and by no means a great movie it is alot of fun.
TERRIBLE !!!!! Aside from some brutal kils, it's absolute rubbish!!!
Posted By: btigershark at 11:38am, September 1, 2009
Rob Zombie's new Halloween is like the first an interesting film to watch and whilst Halloween 2 is certainly a step up from the original much like his Devil's Rejects was over House of 1000 Corpses, once again it just misses the spot.
First of all lets just start with the good points. The cinematography is a lot more cinematic and has less 'shaky cam' that was all so apparent in the first one. The acting is also much improved especially Scout Taylor Compton and as for Dr. Loomis Rob certainly did a good job in changing his character somewhat into an unlikable guy.
However what Zombie still doesn't seem to get is that the main reason why the original Halloween was so good was because it was a film that concentrated on building suspence and a sesnse of claustraphobia that kept the audience glued to their seats.
Zombie demonstrates this in the first 15 minutes of the film but following this sequence which actually turns out to be a dream, the suspence and chase scenes that successfully characterise the halloween films once again dissapears in favour of over the top gore and rushed death scenes.
In summary Rob certainly manages to re-envision a Halloween film with Halloween 2 that is completely unlike the others and for that I applaud him. However as this is a Halloween film, certain elements that are key to a Halloween film are missing still and for that he looses majour points.
Basically this would have been a good edition to Zombie's own cinematic creation's (House, Rejects) minus Michael Myers and Laurie Strode of course.
Plot: One year after the events of the original 2007 film, Laurie Strode is on the brink of insanity as the memories of last year’s massacre continues to plague her mind. Trying to accept the fact that Michael Myers is dead and that nothing bad will happen this year, Laurie attempts to move on with her life, or what’s left of it. But unknown to Laurie and the residents of Haddonfield, Michael Myers, who’s body was never recovered, is still alive, living out in the forest just A few miles away. As Halloween approaches, Michael starts to make his way home, killing anyone in sight, trying to get to his sister. For Laurie, this Halloween might be her last.
Does that plot sound like the other nine films (Eight since Halloween 3 didn’t center around Michael or Laurie) in the legendary horror series? Rob Zombies original Halloween remake was a very odd film. The first half centered on Michael Myers as a child while the second and more rushed half focused on Michael trying to kill Laurie. I remember leaving the theaters with mixed feelings. I thought the first half was interesting, something we’ve never seen before in a Halloween film. The second half, which was supposed to be the most important part, was kind of a let down. By Rob focusing so much on the childhood of Michael, he had no time to focus on the main character of the film; Laurie Strode. While she had limited screen time and was somewhat cliché, I thought Scout Taylor Compton’s Laurie was pretty good. I knew in order for a sequel to be a success, Rob would definitely have to focus on Laurie a lot more than he did in the remake. He would have to give the sequel a more “darker” and “scary” feel as well as get rid of all the unneeded vulgar language and silly redneck characters. By doing this, he would totally win back majority of the Halloween fan base, or at least me. So, did Zombie do all what I thought he needed to do? Read on and find out.
As you’ve probably heard by now, the first fifteen minutes of the film is nothing short of amazing. For the first time in years, maybe since the original 1981 sequel, Myers is scary again! He’s ruthless and violent and definitely gives my most favorite slasher, Jason, a run for his money. The beginning is just a fantastic and suspenseful cat and mouse game that puts you on the edge of your seat, watching in anticipation. As the film moves on into the present, we are reacquainted with Laurie Strode. Gone is the cliché “goody goody” from the ‘07 film. Now Laurie is a stressed out, depressed, and maybe strung out woman who’s trying to cope with what happened to her last Halloween.
Laurie is now living with the Brackets, she’s also seeing a psychiatrist (who is played by Margot Kidder.) Over the course of the film, Laurie bugs out a lot and has many weird nightmares that she is unknowingly sharing with Michael. Scout does a fantastic job of playing the role. While Laurie may get a bit annoying at times with her constant whining and mood swings, one has to think about what she went through and how you would react to some psycho killing your parents and friends. The only bad thing about Laurie is that she really doesn’t find that “courage” that most final girls find half way through the film. There’s never a point where Laurie stands up and goes after Michael. All she does is run and cry, which I guess is realistic, but hey, it’s a slasher damn it! I want to see Laurie find her inner courage and proceed to fight for all the ones she have lost! Sadly however, that doesn’t happen in this film.
While Laurie is trying to put her shattered life back together again and forget about last year’s massacre, Dr. Loomis on the other hand, isn’t trying to forget about a thing. He has now become a big celebrity and has written a book based on Michael’s life and his rampage in Haddonfield. As many have said, Loomis has turned into “Gale Weathers”. Long gone is the sweet sympathetic protagonist from the original, now Loomis is a money hungry tycoon who only cares about himself. While some people hated what Rob did to the character, I actually liked it, it was different. Fames does go to people’s heads, why not Loomis’s? At least it was something different, I think this is probably the only original thing in the film anyway. While Loomis is rude, he’s no where near vulgar. But Loomis redeems himself towards the finale of the film. I quite liked his assistant, she seemed as taken aback by this new “Diva” Loomis as the audience were. She’s the voice of reason and tries her best to make Loomis realize he’s making money off the dead. I was half expecting her to become the hero of the film! Hell, Loomis was too busy being a bitch, and Laurie was too busy having nightmares, so I say why the hell not?
Sheriff Brackett is a sweet older man who’s trying to raise these two girls, you can tell he’s been through the ringer as well. Loomis bringing a plethora of newscasters and paparazzi to the small town does nothing to help Brackett or the other survivors heal. Annie, the character most fans wanted to see return, is kind of witty. I love her relationship with her father. She’s kind of his back bone and holds things together. In a weird way, she has becomes almost like Laurie’s mother rather than friend. She’s the one who keeps Bracket and Laurie both sane. I didn’t like how Rob portrayed Annie and Lynda in the original film, its like they were nothing but “disposable sluts”, which pissed me off. I was hoping this film would showcase just how special Annie is to Laurie, and it does, but I wish they would’ve shown more of her, and maybe had her fight in the final battle with Laurie against Michael. One thing that irritated me is that every time we saw Annie, she would always be in the house. Does she go to school or work? Or is she a recluse now? But hey, after getting butchered like a pig, I guess I would stay in the house more often too.
There are a lot of things that doesn’t make sense and that Rob could’ve improved on. For example, why would Haddonfield throw such a huge Halloween celebration when just a year ago, a large number of residents were fucking slaughtered like pigs? Not to mention Michael’s body never being found. It just makes no sense to me. Also, why would Brackett let Loomis parade around town doing book signings? If I was Brackett, I would’ve told that old idiot to get the hell out of Haddonfield. Residents are trying to forget about what happened here, not remember it! Then half way through the film, Laurie finally finds out that she’s Michael Myers sister. Are you telling me that after a YEAR, she is just finding out? Shouldn’t she have found out like maybe, I don’t know, like RIGHT AFTER THE MASSACRE? I’m sure she would’ve wondered why A random guy was after her by now.
While there are a few hillbilly characters in the film, they aren’t as annoying as they were in Halloween I. Actually, majority of the characters in here are somewhat normal, or at least as normal as you can get in a Rob Zombie movie. I loved the whole grind house feel of the movie. The kills are extremely brutal, but not to the point where it takes away. Michael is one angry son of a bitch in this film. And I loved the grunting, it just made him seem more ferocious. Sherry Moon and Little Michael aren’t THAT annoying. I think they should’ve been in two scenes max, but they were ok, the horse was over the top and pretty stupid.
I loved classic Michael in the beginning, but as the film goes on he’s dressed like some big ugly stinky hobo, which is quite irritating. I wish they would’ve just left his look alone. Michael isn’t shown that much unmasked as some people claim, just a few early scenes, and that’s about it. The directing is really nice and I loved the cinematography.
When Michael finally makes it to Haddonfield, he quickly kills a few of Laurie’s friends and then boom, we’re near the end of the film. The climax was just underwhelming. It could’ve been “grander”. There were no long chase scenes of Laurie running and screaming, it just felt weird and too sudden. As if the film was missing A third and more final act. Just very anti climatic. After watching the film, I thought it was entertaining, but it just felt sooo….unnecessary. Like you’ve already seen the film eight other times before. Overall, Halloween II gets a 8/10 from me. Its tied with the original ‘07 film. It really could’ve been so much more than it ended up being. I’m excited for the unrated directors cut, because the theatrical version felt as if it was missing a good twenty or so minutes. It just ended so suddenly. I’d only recommend this to hardcore Halloween fans. Don’t watch this expecting anything “new”, its just the same old same old. Nothing of epic proportions, though it could’ve been.
This is easily the worst of the series.You can compare 5,6 and the one with busta rhymes but they were sequels.this is the season rebooted and its being rebooted to a made-to-DVD series.This film is gonna be compared to the first Halloween two.**SPOILERS**This movie only had two things going for it Killing and Michael Myers.Cmon grunting with knifing people,STC bad acting,Loomis being a douchebag and had nothing to do with the movie but dying.Am i the only won mad at the shot he took at Donald P,'s Loomis(this is the old loomis this is the new one).What hes doing is turning Michael to the victim and Loomis to the criminal.this movie is a 1.5/5.
Eh. Not that the original was all that great but this was pretty lame. I want Rob Zombie's movies to be much better than they are.
Posted By: KirkAnthony at 11:17pm, August 31, 2009
(Let's set the record straight. I disliked this movie. A lot. So despite the first few paragraphs, it gets scathing further in.)
Tons of people hated Rob Zombie's 'take' on "Halloween". It's pretty understandable, seeing as he tried to remake one of the most influencial horror movies of all time. However, his version was a solid movie from beginning to end, in my opinion. The first half was a nice look into the life of young Michael (Daeg was perfectly cast, I've got to mention), the role of Deborah was nice, as was the majority of the cast in the first hour. The second half did fall flat, I must admit, but it served its purpose, I believe.
That being said, I expected nothing short of incredible for Zombie's "H2". My heart was pounding as I entered the most crowded theater I'd ever been to. I knew it had gotten rotten reviews from a good number of critics out there, including an unexpectedly dull reaction from Bloody-Disgusting. Even so, I was still expected greatness.
Did I get it? Of course not. Half of the movie was good-ish, and half of the movie couldn't live up to so low as "Vacancy".
The premise, that Michael is thought to be dead (even though we all know he's just takin' a nap), Laurie has pretty much gone crazy, and my favorite character, Annie Brackett, is rushed to the hospital (her death almost brought me to tears in the second one, btw). Dr. Loomis is near-fucked, everything's shit. I really, really liked it from the very start. I loved that it picked up literally minutes after the end of the first movie, and it was so brutal from the start. It really made me want to see more.
The hospital-dream sequence was the first scene to get screams/laughs/"I hate this movie!"s. I was unaffected, but I adored the immediate brutality. I also LOVED the unanimous "AWW!"s from the crowd when we learned it was all a dream.
All this was great. It was really going swell; better than expected, really. But then, it got not so swell.
Okay, let's see how easily I can summarize my problems with this movie:
1. The time. Honestly, it should've been much shorter or much longer. The fact that it ran directly between 90 minutes and two hours pissed me off monumentally. It's a small thing to get irritated by, but really? With a movie like this, it was both too slow and too fast to last an hour and forty-one minutes. Had it been a solid two hours, where the story could've unfolded in a more concrete way, I'd have been satisfied. If not, a good ninety minutes would've been accepted too, only if Zombie would've cut to the chase in a less let's-kill-whoever-walks-onto-the-screen-for-no-plot-develo pment-whatsoever way.
2. Michael was humanized too little. I also think this is a strange thing to complain about, but it got to me. Either the emotionless Michael, or more revelations, but I couldn't deal with his dead-mommy-past-life visions WHILE he was still faceless in every other sense.
3. The new kid Michael. Blahblahblah, yeah, kid who's name slips my mind got too tall. Well fucking cut the character!! That was the worst casting I've ever seen! EVER!
4. Sam Loomis dying. Well... less him dying, more the way he died. He had no character development, and was pretty much just there to complain and then get stabbed in the face. It was useless. He should've lived. That, or we should've been made to care about him more. It sucked.
5. And my worst problem (it seems I have more than I thought) was the end. From the time where Laurie walks out wearing Michael's mask (fucking ridiculous scene that had absolutely no point) to the last scene of her psychotic hi-dead-mommy smile, I grimaced. Straight frown "Ugh, this is fucking dumbshit" grimace. The ending should've been more upbeat. It really should've. Too many fucking horror screenwriters today are deciding, "Ooh, wouldn't it be awesome if the ending was the LEAST possible optimistic ending EVER?!", and for some reason, it gets used. It's become a cliche and I want to kill it. That must be why I loved "Death Proof" SO MUCH MORE than most of Tarantino's movies. It was the happiest ending to a horror film I'd seen in years.
So, it turns out I have more problems with this movie than I thought. I went in expecting greatness, I ending up getting about eighty minutes of pretty cool and twenty of pure shitstain. I'm being less forgiving than I expected. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here:
Don't expect shit when you walk into a theater.
I wanted Rob Zombie's "Halloween II". I got Rob Zombie's shaky, slow, bloody music video "House of 1,000 Corpses"(which I look down on compared to its sequel) "Halloween 1 and a half-ish with some dancing and fucking". I was disappointed, but I convinced myself that I loved it. Until now. I'll still buy it on DVD, and maybe when I'm watching it alone, in silence, with no lights, I can appreciate it more. The kills were great, the story sucked, the acting half-sucked.
Better luck next time, August.
Posted By: screamzFIRE29 at 10:50pm, August 31, 2009
Better then the first. I like that it was weird and out there. It was different. Is'nt that what everybody always complains about? Lack of originality? Then when something like this comes around it gets bashed. People just like to complain about something. I loved it. Amazing.
Let me start off by saying that I really love Zombie's re-make, and I might be one of the few on the planet. I have to say I really really looked forward to this one. I expected better but it's still a great movie. The one problem I had was that it seemed to short to me, the ending just came so fast that I didn't even expect it to happen. At the same time I really loved this ending, but I won't go into much detail because i wouldn't want to spoil it. Now that the one bad thing is out of the way we can get to the good. Like I've seen in most reviews I'll say there were a lot of really good shots in this movie. One of the best aspects I feel was the slow degeneration of Laurie's mind which can be seen slipping away more and more throughout the entire film. Overall in my opinion I feel that it was a great movie, deserving of the better reviews it got but to each their own I guess. Also on one last thing I really enjoyed, Michael flipped over a car, bitchin'!
Bergman-esque! Conjures up more Wild Strawberries than Halloween. Despite its embarassing problems (why was Dr Loomis in this!?), the cinematography is goregeous, the lighting and color tremendous, the surrealism works, the psychology study is intriguing, this movie is never anything less than fanstatsic. Rob Zombie is one of the few true auters of the American horror directors!
Posted By: Cr8nkenstein at 7:27pm, August 31, 2009
Hallowen 2 was great, I loved it. Don't listen to the rabid trolls that plague this site and put down anything Rob Zombie makes simply because they're not fans of his music. Halloween 2 was brutal... Better than anything that hack Carpenter ever came up with, or any of the previous directors that came befor Rob saved this franchise and brought it back again. Go see Halloween2... It was awesome!!
This movie was so good and so interesting. I couldn't look away. the first 20 minutes of the movie was freakin amazing. I loved how it showed how the survivors were affected. In most horror sequels, the characters are just fine and dandy the next year. These characters werent. I thought the part when laurie, annie and brackett were eating the pizza (and those of you who saw it know what happened) I just thought that was an aspect no halloween movie has touched and I thought it was played out really well. Those of you who didn't like this movie need to open your eyes!! it was awesome!
Posted By: spookykooky at 10:47am, August 31, 2009
In “Halloween 2” Rob Zombie returns to Haddonfield, Illinois the fictitious small town Americana whose residents are slowly recovering from the legacy of serial killer Michael Myers who’s trail of bloodshed one year earlier on Halloween night hangs over the town like a monument to death.
The story picks up moments after Zombie’s original “Halloween”. Laurie Strode has survived her initial violent encounter with Michael Myers and is being rushed to the Haddonfield clinic along with her seriously wounded best friend Annie Brackett and Myers Psychiatrist Dr Sam Loomis. We quickly discover that (Surprise of all surprises) Myers isn’t really dead and the first 20 minutes of the movie becomes an exercise in relentless terror and suspense as Myers slaughters his way through the clinic to find Laurie and finish off what he started.
Flash forward one year later. Michael Myers is now missing, presumed dead. Haddonfield and its populace are preparing for the Halloween celebrations and among these small town folk we find Laurie, Annie and her father Sheriff Brackett cooped up together in the same remote farmhouse outside town. Dr Loomis is also in the area promoting his new book “The Devil walks among us” based on the previous years murders. Each character is dealing with the aftermath of last years massacre in varying self-destructive ways. Physically and emotionally scarred Annie has become a recluse and won’t leave the farmhouse. Sheriff Brackett has become a neurotic, thinly masking his anxiety for his daughter by playing happy families. Dr Loomis is wallowing in the escapism of fame from his best selling book and Laurie has become a functioning bi-polar individual who from frequent visits to her counsellor (Played by the excellent Margot Kidder) we learn her troubled and disturbing nightmares are challenging her sanity.
What Zombie has created here is a clever character study. He reveals to us a universe where nothing and no one is pretty. His characters muddling through disaster and loss are portrayed with such ultra realism and powerful emotion we care about them deeply so that by the time Myers returns to Haddonfield to kill again the tension is incredibly high while rooting for them to survive.
Zombie could easily have taken the formulaic root, phoned this one in and dealt us a sequel that mirrors the original series. Instead he takes us into his world. This is His Haddonfield and His Halloween. A movie seeped in dreaded atmosphere and menace where the charming, wood framed shops and houses, the cutesy but creepy decorations of Halloween old sparsely hide the grim reality of what could actually happen when a violent, deeply disturbed killer targets an unprepared town.
While not as good as the first Zombie Halloween, this movie still kicks a lot of ass!!! Takes everything Zombie accomplished with the first and builds on it to create the new Halloween mythos. Michael Myers is one crazy fucker and now he's succeeded in making his sister the same. This movie is one bizarre trip. Too bad Zombie isn't returning for the third.
Posted By: Bigglesworth at 12:15am, August 31, 2009
I absolutely loved this movie. I was excited to see it and have been waiting for months. I was kind of surprised on not hearing the original theme through out the movie, but I did really enjoy the mass killing scenes. Who knew Michael would smash some random dude's face in with his boot, that made me cringe. The one part I didn't understand was the end with her wearing the mask and then that leading to her grinning in the white room... will this be the end of it? or will Rob continue with this movie?
Posted By: The_Shape78 at 11:39pm, August 30, 2009
I thoroughly enjoyed H2. Like all films there are points I didn't like, for instance the ambulance passenger making his weird noises that went on for way too long. Other than that, I feel that H2 was a solid installment in the Halloween franchise. I really enjoyed Micheal's new brutality and thought the grunting was somewhat necessary since Rob wanted to humanize him a bit. In the end, we should be thankful that this was made out of respect for the Halloween films considering we have Halloween 3D approaching which is obviously going to be made strictly for profit and will most likely be hastily thrown together.
Would have gotten an 8 if it wasn't for the damn hallucination scenes. I enjoyed Michael's brutality and the portrayal of Laurie slowly losing it. But those hallucinations scenes completely took me out of the movie. Haven't read the news on H3 yet, but I'm happy we're not done with Mikey yet, but I hope Zombie and his wife are not involved.
Posted By: horrorfan1988 at 10:19pm, August 30, 2009
I enjoyed the film. I was shocked, disturbed, grossed out, and all around scared, which is what a good horror movie is supossed to feel. Rob Zombie can really mess with your head at times, but in a good way.
My first reaction to the film was that it had nothing to do with the original franchise and even after it was over I was still in awe about the unbelievable violence. I have seen about every horror movie out there but I have to say, this may take the cake with the in your face brutality. I have seen more gore, don't get me wrong, but it takes some work to get that "in your face" violence with only a stabbing.
But further consideration, I have to give Zombie some credit. I loved the first film he did partially because I am going into criminal psychiatry and he fascinated me. But he never claimed to be going with the original (in some interviews he even says he purposely didnt) and I give him credit for giving his true vision. And if you don't want violence then why would you go to a Rob Zombie making of a Michael Myers film in the first place?
So my only complaint with the movie is the clarity of his vision. Maybe I only need to see it again to really grasp it but I think he could have brought together the stuff with his mother a little better. I don't completely agree with him having visions of her driving him because if you remember the first one isnt his problems and his killings the reasons behind her suicide? So why would she be driving him? My only conlusion could be that it's totally in his head and she's not driving him at all. This question is why I ask for more clarity. Laurie coming out in his mask also raised wuestions to many I know with whether or not it was Laurie doing the illings all along. But in the end it was Zombie's vision not anyone else's and I throw him props for it
End was sweet. The violence was AMAZINGLY BRUTAL, and yet, I didn't like it... You know when there's too much going on and its fast editing and you know what you're trying to see but you just can't fucking see it? That's this movie. But the violence... holy fuck was it intense at times, hahaha.
WOW! This movie literally blew me away. I loved every minute of it, especially the ending. It was brutal, intense, scary, dramatic, and a very emotional film. Michael's anger really showed through his killings and his heavy breathing and grunting made it even more dramatic. Thee best Michael Myers ever! I'm very happy Rob Zombie made this his own movie. He went in a totally different direction which made it an even better film. Scout taylor-Compton was even better as Laurie this time around. Her acting really out shined. I felt so bad for her when she found out she's Michael's sister and when Annie dies in her arms, so damn emotional. Danielle Harris...always great in my eyes, did an awesome job, especially when she was dying. Also the scene when Sheriff Brackett sees Annie dead on the floor, my goodness. He was outstanding. Going to be honest, my tears almost came down. Malcolm was also great as Dr. Loomis. Last but not least, Michael’s mom and the white horse. It didn’t bother me at all and was never taken away from the movie. I found it to be very creepy at times. It served its purpose. And great job by the new young Michael. This is how a horror movie is supposed to be made DAMMIT! If I'm coming out of the theater, emotionally drained, scared, shocked, and satisfied, then the director did an awesome job. Thank you Rob Zombie for impressing me once again with your style and visions of film making. I am a very happy camper.
First of all, it amazes me that the average rating for this movie is three skulls. There have only been two movies in my life where I wanted to walk out of the movie theatre. The first was 'Cold Creek Manor,' and this was the second.
I've only seen Rob Zombie's Halloween one time, and I seriously thought that it was garbage. However, this one is so much worse.
There is one thing that you generally expect from a horror movie, character likeability. This movie severely lacked that. I honestly could not care less if Laurie or Dr. Loomis died. Honestly, about half way through, I was at the point where I wanted Michael to kill both of them so the movie would be over. These characters did not resemble the original characters in any way. The only character I semi-liked was Annie, simply because of Danielle Harris.
It was utterly ridiculous that Sherri Moon Zombie was in the movie at all. A white horse? Come on now.
I have always been a fan of Michael Myers/Halloween, but this was pointless, worthless, and the biggest waste of my time. I will have to completely ignore these two pieces of crap and just think of them in the same way I think of 'Season of the Witch.' They are stand alone films that I will never have in my movie collection. As long as Zombie has no input on Halloween 3D, it may be worth checking out.
Anyway, it's pretty bad when you go see a movie, and you realize that the best part is the beer that you're drinking.
First off... I thought the first RZ Halloween was an excellent film which kept me watching with interest from beginning to end. Halloween 2 however has way too many flaws and "stupid shit" to take seriously and to ever want to see it again.
*** Some Spoilers Below, but nothing too serious**
As many others below have already stated... the dumb shit in the movie is:
#1. Myers mother, mini myers and the fuckin white horse. Sorry but it was all completely unnecessary and only reminded me of Jasons back story.
#2. Loomis. His entire character was completely and utterly USELESS. They could have easily removed him from the movie and everything would have been fine and dandy. His scenes only slowed shit down.
#3. The entire badass opening sequence in the hospital was A DREAM?!?! WHY Zombie, WHY?!? As the BD reviewer stated, they could have very easily have done that as a REAL scene and not made it a stupid fucking dream.
#4. Too many damn dream sequences in general - which were way too overly distracting from the movie with their white zombie music video look and feel. Also these were utterly useless.
#5. The ending. I wont say anything but this movie ended TERRIBLY and several things about it made No Fucking Sense.
#6. Waaay too many times did they do a "suspenseful" scene of "oh no, myers is going to jump out of nowhere and attack this person!"... and then sure enough, every single time... he does. Predictable and even laughable at times. Especially a scene where he jumps out from behind a fucking TREE and attacks someone standing right next to it. i Laughed quite hard and couldn't help myself.
Now... the shit that I DID like about Halloween 2:
#1. Myers himself was fantastic. The "hobo myers", the mask-less myers, the "half mask" myers... all awesome and creepy as shit. I also really thought the grunting he displays while hacking people up was fantastic and added realism and grit to the kills. I've never seen him THIS overly brutal and vicious... excellent and fun to watch.
#2. Uhhh... that's about it. Worth sitting through just to see Myers brutalize a whole whack of victims.
WOW...Thats all I can say about this movie is WOW! This movie was propably the most bizarre film I have ever seen, but that being said it wasnt all that bad. I was totally on board with Rob coming in a doing his own story with this halloween. I was COMPLETELY open minded to any changes he would make from the orginal and still i was very dissapointed. To start, why was loomis even in this movie? alot of people got mad because he was different from the original, but i just got plain annoyed by him. There is no reason for his presence in this movie and every scene he is in is completely distracting. Another, the visions that micheal has of his mother and his younger self... wierd. The thing is it could have been pretty cool if done right, but every time u seen micheal doing something so simple as walking they are there. NO POINT! and the white horse was the dumbest idea in the world. I know Rob was trying to be creative and have striking visuals bt come on...a white freakin horse. This movie was just like one of Robs wierd music videos. Their were some good things though. I liked how this movie was edited in some parts because it really added to the suspense of it. I liked the hardcore violence and the way it was filmed to add to how real it looks. Some acting was good (Brad Dourif) and there was a good amount of blood. Would i recommend you seeing this? wait till it comes out on dvd if your that interested
Well sorry to say but Rob Zombie's Halloweird 2 wait I mean Halloween 2 is yet another disappointing, overly bloodsoaked horror movie with no suspense. Rob didn't do the Halloween movie any justice with his two offerings and the series hopefully will rest in peace after this one. It has been done to death now and it can no longer be revived so stop here. I don't understand were he was going with the remake and this one. The things I liked about the original was the simplicity and the sheer suspense and terror not the gore and in these type of films less is more. None of that can be found in his two efforts, he should just stick with his own creations. Overall it was just a bunch of screaming, yelling and violence, not scary and suspenseful which it should have been. The acting this time around wasn't as annoying as in the remake and was stronger but not amazing either. See it if you want a draining experience, otherwise stick with the original classic which is the best.
1.Recasting Michael as a child.
2.Too many dream sequences.
3.Feels like Rob phoned it in.
4.MM is now a non-mask wearing hobo,where did he walk for an entire year?
5.Lori and the rest of Haddonfield are now all party skanks.
6.The sherrif's house looks like it should have been the Reject's pad,the Brackett's used to live in town,didn't they?
7.Michael is too vocal when he kills.
8.Some sequences filmed too dark to see.
9.Loomis is useless.
10.F-bombs galore,Rob didn't take enough time to develop dialogue,just threats and useless rhetoric.
11.No one was alarmed that Michael's body was never found.
12.Sherrie must have thrown a fit to get in here,so he made her a part that feels like an afterthought,but,that additional salary must have felt good.
13.Rob has went so deep into the abyss of the psychosis of a town,we wont't be able to dig him out, or he rushed to get to a project he really wanted to do;(T-Rex,El-Superbeasto),that he just shoved it down Dimensions throat's.
14.White horses leave biscuits on the trail,and this flick is a large,steaming pile of them.
15.One good point,the violence was pretty good.
I dont know what to think. At first I was pissed off, but after thinking about it, it wasn't that bad. Brad Dourif did a fantastic job. I enjoy the role reversal of Laurie and Annie. Where Laurie was the mother hen in the 1st one. Annie kinda became the mother hen. I also thought it was funny to make Loomis seem more of a monster than Michael in exploiting the events of the previous year.
Unfortunately, the rest of the movie was bleak. I don't know if it was because I expected more of this movie. But I was generally disappointed. The language was excessive even for a Rob Zombie film. It was uber violent. Don't get me wrong I love that, but Michael didn't have to stab each person he came across 654 times. Michael's suppose to be more methodical, stalking his victims. Even playing with them. But this was ridiculous. And come on! Bringing his mom back as a ghost was annoying. It didn't fit. But that's just my opinion.
I did like how Laurie stunk lower into insanity. That was interesting. but overall, I couldn't get into it. The audience didn't help matters either. People wouldn't shut up and it was annoying. People laughed at things that weren't even funny. If you put yourself in that situation you wouldn't be laughing would you? The people in the audience kinda turned me off to the movie. Anyway, sorry about the little tangent. I rate this movie a three.
Watching Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 or any movie of his is like watching a woman being raped. I don't know how else to say it. Most directors make love Rob rapes. Hated the movie.
Halloween II was amazing even better than the Remake and i loved the Remake, I still dont get why people think John Carpenters Halloween is so great, Because i find it to be boring compared to Rob Zombie's version.
i thought this movie was decent. i pretty much thought it would have been amazing if:
1. Zombie completely left his wife and the horse out of it. I understand that he sees her in his head, but we dont need to see her the whole time, neither mini michael. It made me laugh out loud at times.
2. What the hell was with all the grunting? That was unnecessary.
3. The lack of his mask. I hated it. Esp. the half mask.
The gore was good and intense at times. The more i think about it makes me want to see it again.
Certain people die, which i enjoyed alot. Everytime i liked a scene the next would dissapoint me. The end made me laugh when michael watched her struggle against no one there. He was probably like "bitch your as crazy as me"
I fall in between on this film. But, i would atleast check it out.
okies.....i liked the movie- i was nvr ill-interested...i did hold my pee for a long ass time lol...but imjust so aggravated with rob zombie..i understand he wanted to make his own movie ...but fuk..he shouldnt named it sumthing else and left remaking it to sum1 that was actually going to fukn remake it.. not reDO it... he changed the hole relaty or micheal myers himself.. he killed for no other reason then he was deranged and wanted everyone in his way to die.. i was so excited to watch a remake.. and beable to see an updated version of the movie i love sooooooo much... now i fear i will nvr again feel the way i felt the firswt time i watched the original halloween.. rob zombie.. ur an awesom director... house of 1000 corpses was good..cept for ur ending... and this movie was good too.. but dont make another halloween movie... leave it... u haven o place in the halloween world.
I really enjoyed Halloween II alot. It was much better than the remake. It had suspense and it was also very creepy. The dream sequences were weird but extremely creepy and I loved the ending to this movie. Rob Zombie definitely made this film his own and I really enjoyed it. The Brutal deaths in this movie are awesome. The only thing wrong is we didnt really need to see dr. loomis appearing on all shows promoting his book. But other than tht Michael Myers is brutal killing machine and this movie is definitely a great sequel. If you want to see a fun 3d movie in which you laugh along with after the crazy deaths go see The Final Destination, but if you want to see a creepy unsettling intense straight up horror film go see Halloween II!
Seen it last night.Sure it was weird but boy was it intense.This film was very strong and the goriest halloween ever.I give much credit to ROB ZOMBIE for doing his own take on halloween it was different.This will divide a lot of pure halloween fans but as far as horror goes it doesn't get any better than this.If you want horror go see this movie,if you want to go see this to judge it to the original classics just stay home.Just the pure violence of it was worth the price of admission.Good to see that the MPAA has not been so harsh on are horror movies lately.
i went and saw this yesterday with some high expectations and wasnt that disappointed, First off i'm just gonna say that i liked the remake better than this but i still really liked this.
The beginning was great though it was a little disapointing when we find out it was a dream, but the rest of the movie was a disturbing mindless relentless horror flick and probably had some of the most disturbing scenes to come across the screen this year expecially Annie's death.
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Scout Taylor Compton did a great job in this movie as well did Danielle Harris.
Michael Myers was actually scary in this and fun to watch on the screen.
The only thing I didnt like about this movie was that the ending felt a little too short. I liked the ending but it felt like it ended way too early. Maybe there will be more in the unrated dvd. well this is the third best horror film of the year behind the final destination and drag me to hell.
Offbeat follow up to Zombie's remake takes a lot of influence from Italian horror flicks from the past. The strip bar scene rocked and showed such Suspiria like atmosphere. The story is not predictable and the killings are relentless. The Dr. Loomis subplot was very distracting and I feel held the film down. I could even say I may have enjoyed this "new" white horse mythology had the Loomis story been cut way back. I have to say I am disappointed with the movie but Zombie's style is enough to keep you entertained. I still am not sure exactly how I feel about it! So at least H2 made me think. The cast was really good and returning cast members really seemed to gel with their characters. Taylor's Laurie again is put through the ringer. This is not the same Michael or Laurie from the original films. H2 brings something totally new to the table but loses its grip with unnecessary subplot of Dr. Loomis. Bring on the Blob because H2 makes one wonder is TDR going to be Zombie's finest hour?
I liked this depiction of Michael Myers. Dont want to give it away but it was definitely more real. The hallucinations and everything show how warped he is. The end dragged ass for me but I still like this movie.
Posted By: mr.something at 2:20am, August 30, 2009
really enjoyed this movie. i liked the dark, grity feel of the whole thing and really loved seeing michael brutalize people in such a rage filled way. I was confused by the whole ghost debrah and little michael thing, wish rob would have left them out.
Ok.. I enjoyed this movie, I actually just got home from seeing it. But It wasn't H2 to me..Sure I enjoyed the massive amount of gore and violence, but The whole horse and his mom deal...yea no. The one thing that really annoyed me was the fact that he grunted during his kills. The only way I can truly explain my feelings is "If it wasn't Michael Myers it would have been great"
Posted By: Lautreamont at 12:54am, August 30, 2009
Watchable for sure - better than Zombie's first H'ween, and better than the 1st pt. 2. Nicely lit. Sheri is not distractingly bad this time either. But every violent scene is shot in ultra shaky cam - ugh. Annie's last gasp is pretty awful to watch too. Sadly, Laurie doesn't ever rally to her own defense; a lost opportunity. Also, the many rock inserts (Moody Blues, etc.) are a trifle overdone. Do teen girls really listen to Motorhead? Not! Better than most slashers - less of a hack job, excuse the expression. Shooting on 16mm was silly, it'll look like that in 15 years anyway, and when it's out of focus you can really tell. Michael's fantasies make him less scary, and sympathetic - which The Shape shouldn't be. And his child persona talks! Not good for the mystique. Still, I didn't hate the Sheri stuff - it's a good attempt at something new. The last shot I liked too, a good ending to a decent plot twist (borrowed from some lame sequel). It suggests that evil runs in the family. Definitely worth sitting through, I'd say, but you won't get a tattoo to remember the occasion. Probably Rob's best work yet...
Michael Myers has been reduced into a redneck, hillbilly, hobo, with major mommy issues. This film was so disgusting and bad and so far from the source material that it didn't even feel like a Halloween film.
Zombie has no ability to create any suspense or true fright in his films. He subsitutes suspense for gore, and actually scariness/fright with brutality.
He is so far removed from the dynamic of the Laurie/Michael dynamic that the movie ends up being boring. Not only that but his film is all over the place. There are a few good points in the film but by the time you start enjoying a scene it gets ruined by some dream sequence.
The acting was horrible, he has totally destroyed Scout's career. She will never be anything more then she was in this film.
Michael Myers reduced to white trash, with a mommy fetish. A mighty fall for a character once seen as the best on screen incarnation of The Boogeyman.
The Laurie Strode character which is a defining figure in horror movie history, and gave birth to the "screem queen" terminology reduced to white trash.
There was nothing redeeming about the Laurie Strode character. You could not even care about her and the sad thing is the most compelling content in the movie the Laurie/Annie dynamic was glossed over and didn't get the time it deserved.
This movie fails on so many levels and Zombie just comes off as a complete hack. It almost feels like he tried to destroy the franchise and he did. I doubt we will see another Halloween film for atleast 8-10yrs and it will be someone else starting the franchise over from scratch.
decent enough it was entertaining, but there were some major flaws like loomis, and sheri moon zombies characters really could have been left out and some of the camera work was just awful.
A lot of things have been said about Rob Zombie's 2007 attempt at re-creating one of the best and most influential horror films of all time. A lot of these things have been negative, and when the film was released critics and fans alike panned the movie, cursing Zombie's name and cursing what was in my mind a creative re-imagining of the film, albeit with a few flaws.
Now, after some coaxing from Dimension Pictures no doubt, Zombie takes another crack at the beloved franchise. Those expecting a re-hash of the first film should be warned, Rob has learned from (some of) his mistakes in the last installment. While there are some scenes in the film that are nothing short of astounding, there are others that bring the film to a complete and total stop, and eventually it loses its momentum.
The similarities to the original Halloween II start and end with the opening sequence. We get an abridged version of the hospital scenes from the original, along with a heaping helping of blood and guts. It was at this point of the film that it is at its strongest. The goriest sequences are in the film's first few scenes, I could hear the people around me whincing at some of the sights. This is a big step up even from Zombie's first movie.
Horror fans will undoubtedly recognize Brad Douriff (the voice of Chucky!) as Sherriff Brackett, along with a few other cameos from genre stars of the past (look out for a cameo from the actress who played Jamie Loyd in parts 4 and 5!) though not nearly as many as the first installment. Zombie (I admit I do feel a bit foolish writing his last name "Zombie". Sounds stupid) also put some classic rock (Am I Evil? makes an appearance) references in there.
While there were some unique touches of Zombie's dark sense of humor in the first Halloween re-make, this movie absolutely stinks of his prescence, and that's not a bad thing. There are more ignorant hicks in this installment (all of whom meet an untimely end) and there are some legitimately funny moments, but funny because they are meant to be. The ending shot is laughably bad (I'll get to that later) but other than that the humor succeeds when it happens.
Humor is something the film needed, because when this movie grabs you, it holds on tight. While there aren't as many "jump scares" as there were in the 2007 movie, Zombie uses them sparingly enough so that each ones jolts you out of your seat. They're sort of the foreplay before the actual sex, if you wanna be dirty about it. The scenes never lose their tension after Michael bursts through a door or grabs someone from behind.
In an effort to break up Michael's trek back to Haddonfield (which is surprisingly rural compared to the last film) and Laurie's struggles to find sleep at night, we're given more comic relief from an unlikely source: Dr. Samuel Loomis. Zombie took the heroic, albeit a bit crazy Dr. and made him into a prima donna celebrity in the span of a year. While the many bits of Loomis and his publicist bickering with each other are entertaining (Loomis is shopping around a new book, aptly coming out that Halloween), they often feel out of character for a man who was so dedicated to helping Laurie escape her brother in the first film. By the time the movie's through you'll probably hate Loomis, but that's exactly what Zombie wanted to do.
I did mention earlier that the film is at its strongest in the first twenty or so minutes. The rest of the film is serviceable, and just shy of greatness. Many of you have probably seen the trailers at this point (and if you haven't, where do you live?!) and know that Sheri Moon Zombie returns as Michael's mother. These scenes are ghostly visions that happen all too frequently in the film. We're suddenly uprooted from "Halloween" and dropped into a rip off of "Friday the 13th". What's worse, each of these sequences increases in absurdity as the film progresses. Not once do they work, and not once do they make any sort of sense. Zombie's good-hearted attempt at giving Michael a motive (or his wife some work) falls flat on its face. While the ending scene is very well done, the final shots are so bizarre, and so unfitting that it will undoubtedly scare you, but not in the way you'd think. You'll be thinking: "OF FUCK, PLEASE DON'T MAKE A PART 3!!! NO! NOT LIKE THIS!"
When I left the cinema I didn’t know how to feel about this one. While there was definitely a lot about it that I liked, there was still a few things I hated (the Sherri Moon scenes in particular). I don’t even hate them because they mess with the original, I hate them because they flat out don’t work. The most bizarre one (with the roundtable and the body on top of it) did have two jump scares in it that certainly jolted me, but it still felt absurd in the end. Zombie’s sparing use of jolts and jump scares, combined with the extreme brutality of the kills (this movie is GORY!!!) help balance some of its most glaring flaws (a side note, Michael lets out a few grunts of rage while he kills his victims, never saying a word, but it makes him so much more menacing than the silent ghost he was in series’ past). If you’re a genre fan, you’ll undoubtedly find it at the very least entertaining for the kills, but if you weren’t into the first re-make to begin with, you’re probably better off skipping it.
Tl;dr: 3.5/5
Posted By: BiffStarbuck at 11:01pm, August 29, 2009
Terrible. Let's just start there. The film seemed to be an utter mess from start to finish. Not only was it poorly written, edited, directed, acted and ...well it was not well done all around. After the last Halloween, I've come to accept Zombie's White Trash America style and while not a fan of it I dealt with it. But this time it seemed like his "ideas" were just a little too out of it. Scenes just came and went, nothing really fit together. For instance, the Loomis character was once again raped of his appeal and his importance in the film. It hurt to watch this beloved character change sooooooo much. Donald Pleasance is spinning in his grave tonight and I don't blame him. Also, the whole Momma Myers, young Mike and White Horse thing was not only iritating but just not right. It made things confusing (whether they were real or not holding Laurie down) or who could see them or not? It was not needed and didn't help things....oh it might have help Sherrie's film career.
I guess I can see how this movie was rushed so much from writing to completion. It seems so out of hand. I mean it looks like a direct to video movie in terms how its shot, dialouge, music, cinematography, etc. Sloppy.
OK. I'm a cheap sonafbitch. Last year, I would have walked out of Indy IV. I did pay ten bucks for that piece of crap. Today, I took my wife to Halloween 2 and paid twice as much as I did for Indy IV. I stayed for the whole movie, even though I was told I really could have left after the first half hour. I kept hoping, praying for something good to happen...nothing!
To all you kids, who didn't grow up with the original Halloween and who love the new version...don't go see this movie. At least the original sequel was a good movie. This isn't. I will go so far as to say that Halloween 3 is much better than this piece of trash. Unfortunately you kids have no clue about what is good or not. But I do love how you guys get all excited about the new Halloween or Friday the 13th remakes. Its nice to see how your lack of education in the film world translates.
I really loved House of 1,000 Corpses. I enjoyed Devil's Rejects and Halloween 07. So I don't hate Rob Zombie. But this is just one of those suck beyond all belief things that come about once a year.
Posted By: zombiefan09 at 10:53pm, August 29, 2009
I have waited for this movie for a long time, and it was definitely worth the wait! HALLOWEEN II was awesome! I loved every minute of it! I have been a fan of the HALLOWEEN series ever since I was eight years old, and this film was everything a HALLOWEEN fan would love and more! Michael Myers is back with a vengeance and he's more brutal and violent than ever! Rob Zombie did an awesome job at directing his newest masterpiece! I loved the amazing details of the dreams and hallucinations that Michael and Laurie both had. I love when Michael attacks at The Rabbit in Red Lounge. I love all the decorations and costumes at Haddonfield's 4th Annual Phantom Jam. I love the police standoff toward the end when Michael is holding Laurie hostage. Everybody did an amazing job!
A year after the HALLOWEEN massacre, Laurie Strode lives with Lee and Annie Brackett and is an absolute mess, does drugs, and almost just as crazy as Michael. Dr. Loomis has written a new book and becomes more of a spoiled celebrity. Michael is still alive and sees images of his beautiful mother as a ghost, and the younger version of himself. Deborah tells Michael that he needs to kill Laurie so they will become a family again. When Laurie finds out the truth about who she really is, she goes beserk, and doesn't care about anything anymore, so she heads off to the Phantom Jam. After partying with Harley and Mya, Michael comes after Laurie once again to have the ultimate family reunion, because family is forever. I honestly think this is one of the best HALLOWEEN films yet! If you love the HALLOWEEN series, and Rob Zombie's directing style, I highly recommend HALLOWEEN 2!!!
Posted By: lunarainbow at 10:27pm, August 29, 2009
I really loved the movie. The visuals were amazing the harvest moon looming over them with foreboding, the desolate rural landscape. The visions were a visual feast. I like how there is the marriage of the real and the surreal like how Deborah and the horse are combined with the otherwise realistic shots. Of course good shots are nothing without a great story to back them up. You could really feel Laurie's pain and confusion, for me the most poignant scene was when she was in her therapist's office talking about how she feels so lost without her parents. Horror movies often show violent killings, but its rare for them to show the grief of the family members. It kind of makes it seem more real. Another character dealing with the grief is Sheriff Brackett. He is just such a sympathetic character because he has to take care of Annie and Laurie and help them cope with their pain. I also really liked the way they developed Loomis' character. It seems like in the old series he never really changed and was just doing the same thing from movie to movie. Besides, if something like this happened in real life you know someone would write a book about it. A couple of other quick points, I loved the soundtrack (especially Nights in White Satin and Love Hurts) and the way they used the wardrobe was really clever, how Laurie is dressing more and more like Michael in the baggy clothes and the KISS shirt. A great movie, everyone should see it once (and hopefully lots!)
An insult to all 5 of my senses. I actually had a bad taste in my mouth when I left the theatre. Complete garbage. My girlfriend never wants to talk about the movie again, because she doesn't think it's worth 1 more second of our lives. I agree.
Just saw this. 1,ooo Corpses was pretty entertaining (DIFFERENT, give him that), but flawed (crazy story shit). Devil's Rejects was a huge surprise, and an awesome one.
Then- Halloween. I'm NOT (sorry) much of a franchise fan. Sorry, but I've never found the MM character scary, just sort of ... silly. But I gave it a shot. Seeing MM as a kid was... neat, I guess. The film was somewhat entertaining. But not much to write home about. When I heard H2 was underway, I couldn't care less.
H2 is AWESOME. It's brutal, it's nasty, it's exploitation flat out, it's over the top, AND it's built upon characters that I (for one) suddenly cared about. Not so in the first Halloween he did.
I LOVED the liberties Zombie took with the character, showing us what's in his haunted head. And for those naysayers, screw you- that Halloween palace scene, with the mask on the skeleton, and the feast... that was AMAZING. Think about it, this silent, brutal, merciless killer has THAT in his head- what an imagination. That was GENIUS, giving Myers this, it made me give a shit about a character that has been 100% flat for me (and I'm old enough to remember the original, so blow me).
And something else to note- this film FELT like Halloween. Not the franchise, the fucking HOLIDAY. It's filled with the spooky/jack o lantern/ wolfman/tombstone stuff that we ALL dug so much as kids. The make out scene with the wolfman and the Rocky Horror chick was awesome (although the kill was bit weak)- the scene was funny, fun, sexy...
You cannot even COMPARE this to the recent F13th remake, that made me WEEP it was such shit.
This Zombie flick had countless solid scenes, with tonnes of great stuff going on, on all levels. I'm SUPER impressed.
Think of it this way- I DIDN'T give a shit about the Halloween franchise before I saw this. Now I do. This film SINGLEHANDEDLY ignited that. Boo-ya.
:)
And furthermore- look at how wildly divided reviews are on this flick- people loving it OR hating it. A sure sign that Zombie STAMPED this thing as his own. Good on him. He's renewed my appreciation (which was HIGH after Rejects, but on he way down after his earlier Halloween effort).
Posted By: Hore_freak13 at 9:50pm, August 29, 2009
More then anything I wanted Rob Zombie to be successful with this. Ive waited a long time.
With that said I still don't know what I feel. I definitely know he didn't make the killer movie I expected. It wasn't as bad as some people say on here, but it was no 10/10 horror.
There are alot of flaws in this movie, mainly with the plot and conclusion. The most important aspects of a movie.
But at the end of the day, ask yourselves. How many horror movies out there are considered "greats" that really don't make sense?
RZ definitely unleashed a horror movie with this. I just don't feel that it should be considered to be uttered in the same breath as John Carpenter's "Halloween"
I love Rob Zombie, and will continue to watch all of his movies. I just don't feel that he did the necessary justice to keep Micheal Myers the same Mikey we all love.
As a horror movie, I give it a 8/10.
As a Halloween movie, I give it a 3/10.
Real horror fans should understand where I am coming from...
I GAVE THIS MOVIE A 10STR AND A 1STR BECAUSE I THINK THIS MOVIE REALLY DEFINED MICHAEL MYERS, HE WAS INTENSE, EVIL, AND VICIOUS (C'MON FLIPPING CARS, SICKKKK!!!!) THAT ASPECT OF THE MOVIE WAS GREAT AND I LOVE THE DIFFERENT TAKES, LOCATIONS, SOUNDS, EFFECTS AND CAMERA ANGLES OF THE MOVIE THAT REALLY GAVE IT THAT EERIE FEELING I RESPECTED AND LOVE THIS MOVIE IN THAT SENSE.
BUT IAM A DIE HARD HALLOWEEN FAN SO I DIDN'T AGREE WITH DR LOOMIS'S CHARACTER THO CUZ RZ MADE HIM SEEM FOOLISH AND DUMB WHEN THE REAL DOCTOR LOOMIS AND ANY OTHER DOCTOR SHOULD BE WISE AND HAVE SENSE TO HIM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ITS ROB'S MOVIE BUT HIS TAKE ON ALL THE OTHER CHARACTERS AND HOW THEY WERE AFFECTED WAS PRETTY KOOL BUT EVEN SO IT DOESNT ADD UP THAT DR LOOMIS WAS LIKE THAT HE WAS TOO HOLLYWOOD AND DIDNT BELONG IN THIS MOVIE PERIOD
THERE SHOULD OF ALSO BEEN MORE SCENES SHOWING HIS KOOL MASK B4 BEING RIPPED OFF... THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERED ME IN THAT SENSE WAS WHEN HE WAS ON THE STREETS I FELT LIKE I WAS FOLLOWING A HOBO BECAUSE THAT RAGGEDY HOODY HE COULD OF DONE WITHOUT...
THE VISIONS OF MICHAELS MOM WERE KOOL BUT GOT OLD QUICK(AFTER THE 2ND TIME) AND KIND OF STALED THE TASTE OF THE ENDING...
THAT LITTLE BOY WASNT SCARY LIKE DAEG AT ALL HE WAS ACTUALLY A BURDEN TO THE MOVIE AND JUST SICKENED ME, DAEG WAS BAD a*$!!!THAT LITTLE BOY WASNT AND I THINK THAT BOY RUINED PARTS OF THE MOVIE ALSO...
RZ I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR MOVIES BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN-MINDED AND BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE WITH YOUR ENDINGS BECAUSE DEVILS REJECTS WAS THE ONLY ENDING OF YOUR MOVIES I EVER ENJOYED AND I LIKED ALL YOUR MOVIES.
THIS MOVIE WAS A GREAT MOVIE AND I SUGGEST IF YOUR A DIE HARD HALLOWEEN FAN THEN DONT LOOK FOR THE ELEMENTS OF THE ORIGINALS CUZ YOU WILL BE VERY DISSAPOINTED, KIND OF EMBRACE RZ'S VISION AND ENJOY THE MOVIE FOR WHAT IT IS CUZ REGARDLESS IF YOU AGREE WITH IT OUR NOT IT'S A GOOD MOVIE....
I'm not a Rob Zombie cum-guzzler. I thought House of 1000 Corpses was pretty fun... dug Devil's Rejects... but did not like Halloween 07 (except for that excellent bully beat down in that one scene in the woods). While overall I did not like Halloween 07... I think Zombie definitely fixed a lot of issues with H2. First off... the choice of going 16mm was a wise one. The movie has tons of film grain and just looks plain gorgeous. The Phantom Jam in particular had a very nightmarish quality to it... with a high contrast warm and color palette similar to that of House of 1000 Corpses. Also... Michael is just plain awesome in this one... that curb stomp scene (without the curb) was GREAT... and then the following strip club massacre is also sick. The hospital scene in the beginning was also gorgeous and brutal... with nurses getting stabbed in the back of the head about 20 times.
Again... I don't bow at the feet of Rob Zombie... but he's definitely a competent filmmaker. I could maybe see why die hard Halloween purists might not like this movie... but COME ON! IT'S MICHAEL MYERS KICKING ASS ON THE BIG SCREEN! What's not to like?
Coming off from someone who despised Halloween '07, I can happily say that this was a good movie. Mostly everything Zombie got wrong in the first movie he managed to correct in this one. One thing I really liked was that every character got to be themselves not copying Carpenter's character. Michael was just a viscous, violent, ruthless, and PURE EVIL killer in this. The movie had humor (especially Loomis) and overall I'm one who really enjoyed this.
I'd like to see what's in store for Halloween 3. To me H2 was a fun, entertaining and enjoyable slasher film. I'll give Zombie credit, now lets hope The Blob is a solid remake.
The people who are complaining about this movie does not get where Rob was coming from in his movie this was not supposed the old halloween i loved every aspcet of this film from Sheri Moon to the ending I believe that this a great film and the people who complain about it dont have the mental compacity to understand what Zombie was getting at
Horrorable... Just horrorable... He ruined the Halloween name. Please don't do any other remakes. Leave the BLOB alone... Halloween 2 Just bad all around. What is with Sherry Moon... He ruined Dr. Loomis character all together. I hate Zombie for that. SO many pot holes in the script, I don't even know where to start. The only credit I will give him is some great visual stuff with the shots in the film. Other then that... its just straight up crap. Its worse then the Friday the 13th remake... Bad.... The worse ripe off ending EVER... Rob Zombie is a jerk off and he needs to stop pissing on other filmmakers work. Carpenter has to have a sick stomach from this.
This was allot different than I expected.I enjoyed the film but I do see why purists of the franchise hate it.It would feel like a Halloween film and as soon you'd feel comfortable it would turn into a mindf#@*ING supernatural\ psychological tragedy.This is one will be argued about for years to come by horror fans.I look at these two films as a different way to tell the tale of the Myers story in the vain that Warhol or Kubrick would interpret this series.Not the best but definitely not the worse.I don't think it will do much after this weekend as far as box office goes.Now I hope Zombie gets a chance to try something that's new not a re imagined classic that didn't needed to be remade in the first place.Although he's probably going to do the Blob.If your a Zombie fan this movie won't make you dislike him but if your a purist and not a fan of his work,He's given you another reason to hate him.And the way this ends the haters will be steaming.One thing is for sure this was one of the most violent,brutal,and unnerving of the series since the first two.
The beginning was had me completely amazed and glued to my seat. It's too bad that it was a dream and it leaves you feeling like the whole first 15 minutes were nothing but and entertaining waste of time that sort of put the rest of the film to shame.
People are bitching that the strip club scene had absolutely no meaning. But if you look at Halloween 07 the Rabbit in Red is the strip club Micheal's mom worked at so it actually did have some meaning and I didn't mind it.
The movie felt a little odd to me and it has the feel of a Friday the 13th movie instead. It would have actually worked as a fantastic Friday the 13th. The mommy motivation and all. It just felt so much like a Friday the 13th movie it was hard to get into it at first.
After that, there were some pretty good kills but Mikey needs to take a chill pill, grunting and growling as he stabs someone about 700thousand times or as he repeatedly takes his big ol' boot to some assholes head doesn't really work for me. I mean I don't mind that he was breathing so loud, but come on he's making way too much noise.
Loomis didn't really have a point in this movie besides to be a colossal fuckass. They really only needed his book in this movie so that Laurie could find out she was Angel Myers. He was the most annoying character and I was so glad to see him die.
Why spend all that time promoting Uncle Coffins if he has nothing to do at all with this movie besides brief scenes at the Phantom Jam? Pointless.
I liked Sherri Moon in the Devil's Rejects, I liked her a lot. But she had ABSOLUTELY no place in this movie and every time I saw her it took me out a bit. Thankfully the movie was entertaining enough that soon after she got off the screen I was back into the movie again.
Now on a good note the movie was really entertaining and I liked it. I might even see it again. Zombie does better on sequels than on original films which you don't really see a lot these days so I like it. The first one felt kind of...I dunno, like he stuck too much to the original, even though he went so far away from it. The last 30 minutes felt like the same old shit which I hated. This time around it felt much more like Rob Zombie had actually wanted to make this movie and it was more entertaining than the first.
I'm not really a big fan of Halloween and Micheal Myers is about 8th on my list of favorite slashers, but I have seen all the movies and I can say that this is better than 3,5,6, and Resurrection. Overall a good movie and if you open up to it I'm not going to say you'll like it but you won't hate it.
i can't believe the amount of people who loved this film.. it was not good at all and its sad because rob zombie has a ton of potential.. so much off screen violence, no gore, no tension.. falls completely flat.. and the white horse shit was stupid and the ending wasn't necessary at all..
Posted By: xXFacelessXx at 5:21pm, August 29, 2009
I can tell by looking over everyones reviews that this is a movie that you either love or hate. For me I was skeptical right from the beginning, but that's because from everything they showed you here at BD. So last night comes around and it's time to go into the theatre, all of us sit down and most of my friends are really pumped for this, I didn't really know if I was until after. Beginning sequence opens, it starts out pretty nice except I didn't hear one of the greatest compositions ever made for a horror movie, that bummed me out a little. The hospital sequence was awesome I liked it because the second one way back when had the same thing going on, so there is your loyalty to it (plus I get creeped out more with the hospital stuff), but it didn't last very long and on top of all that it was a damn dream. The movie was heavily centered around the warped mind of this poor little girl Lory, and it became annoying after about the third time. There was a lot of jumpy parts and the strip club scene where Michael glows under a black light was a bonus for me, the blood was more real than I have seen it recently but it was used in an overexcessive amount, it didn't ruin the movie for me, it was just based around the lines that maybe they were trying too hard. The kills weren't really unique but ruthless and Michael was more impressive this time around because of his figure and his aggressiveness, much like when my girlfriend pointed out that he always took the difficult path to kill, like coming into the van without just tearing open the door. The only thing (sadly) that I really got into in the movie was the ending, I was excited to hear John's composure, which sounded enhanced but for the absolute better and following it, a montage of the deaths in the movies. Depsite what I've said I'm probably one of the many, or few depending on how this is going so far that really liked this movie. Rob Zombie has the right mind for this stuff and he hasn't dissapointed me yet, and for those who he probably has, it's not nice to bitch about like you're a thirteen year old girl that's PMSing, at least do it in a respective manner. Now you know where I stand in this. Good job yet again Rob.
Not Wasting my time writing a review for this movie. This didn't feel like a Halloween movie. This movie could've been done so much better.
In Order from The Best to worst in Halloween series:
Halloween
Halloween 2
Halloween 4
Halloween H20
Rob Zombies Halloween
Halloween 6
Rob Zombies Halloween 2
Halloween 3
Halloween 8
Halloween 5
The beginning hospital sequence is really well done and within the first 15 minutes you think that this movie will be better than the last piece of shit he made..... The scene where Laurie and her ugly goth friends go to that farm party was pretty cool and visually impressive and I thought the film would pick up....... Well I was sadly mistaken. If this film was a cancer patient then this is where the patient completely takes a turn for the worst and you just sadly watch it die and wither away just hoping for its misery to end but instead it puts up a losing fight and refuses to die just putting itself and everyone around it in agony watching it progressively fail.
What the fuck is with him trying to use all the retro 70's things? Black Knights in White Satin? Are you kidding me seeing that song played on a black and white tv was such a cop out to try and give it a grimy feel.
Her friends sucked and I did not feel bad that they were all killed. I am not buying the whole concept that once a nicely dressed girls family is murdered that she all of a sudden just goes completely emo and starts listening to death metal and dressing like Kelly Osbourne.
Sheriff Bracket was pretty good at keeping his composure and continuing to do his job considering that two young women were just murdered in his "Farm House" one of the women being his only daughter yet withing the hour he is back on the job.
The strip club scene was useless. Just useless and looked like a deleted scene from a bad direct to dvd movie.
Rob Zombie you are not a deep film maker. You try to use the cheapest gags to accomplish emotion. From playing "Free Bird" at the end of Rejects final scene which would be the equivalent of playing "Eye of The Tiger" in a montage scene now for a fight movie. The White Horse was the most shameless thing you could have put in there. That little excerpt at the beginning was pathetic. All of you people defending this probably like Saw 4 as well.
Lastly....... Your skank looking wife cannot act and I don't know how whipped you are to put her in every movie or if you think that this will be your trademark having a d grade actress in all your movies will give it character then you are wrong and are just ruining your films.
My grade: D- just because I had hope at the beginning and for that halloween dance/ concert I was not ready to fall asleep.
I loved this movie,but the few problems I had was the constant use of the F bomb,and they could of DONE WITHOUT Deborah Myers and Little Michael.=P,Overall I thought it was AWESOME :D
The movie was horrible. :twisted: ........ i couldn't take watching it anymore :axe: !!!!!!!!! and i hate robs visions there dumb and they are pathetic....it was like watching full fuccking house family is forever, who puts that in a horror movie and Sherri moon is the worst out of them all she cant acted to save her life, every girls face was greasy including Danielle Harris. The dreams Laurie had were dumb because almost, every kill was a fucccking dream!!!!! everyone was leaving towards the end of the movie which i thought was a smart move.......but i stayed and watched a white horse and Sherri moon walk towards the screen with Taylor Scott smiling like the joker from batman....:lol: Its a spoof on the original series. Tyler Mane is a bad actor as portraying Michael myers.... he will never live up to Derek Mears, who played Jason.......So, how man stars do i give this film or was it a film.........0 :P
Saw This Yesterday, I was so hyped up as the Movie began, and as it "Progressed" I found myself getting more and more Dissappointed! Finally, I was actually happy to see this 'Movie" End and the Credits Roll! First off, why does Rob Zombie have this Insistance that practically every Character in his Movies comes across as "Poor White Trash"? Ok, in the First one, I bought the fact that Michael came from such a Background, since this was a 'Revisioning" on the part of Mr. Zombie, but to littery now throw it in our 'the Audience" Face that the Resisdence of Haddonfield are nothing short of Trailor Trash, Enough is enough, I've seen this already in his other Movies, House of a 1,000 Craps err I mean Corpses and the Devils Rejects!! Also, i can buy into that a Year has Passed and of course it leaves Scars on our returning Characters "Laurie, Annie, Sheriff Bracket and Dr.Loomis" but damn, did these People Go to Hell or what? The Girls are now what 'Devil Worshippers" I mean look at their Bedrooms and you'll see what Im talking about, Sheriff Bracket is like this 'Hippie" New age Persona which Unfortunately makes him less of a Sheriff and more of a Yoga Instructer! Saving the best for last, Poor Dr.Loomis, is he a complete ASSHOLE, or what? His only part in the Movie is to show up, get slammed by the very People or Families that he Wrote about and in the end, just when you want this 'Heroic act" to come out of Him, He does something stupid and "Dies' anticlimatic!! All I could do was sit there with this "WTF" look on my Face! Did Mr. Zombie hate this Character or something? No, Malcolm McDowell is no Donald Pleasance as far as the roll of Dr.Loomis goes, but even he deserved better than this BullShit! And what was the "Rehash" of the Savage Mutilation of Annie? Did we not already see this in the first one? Filmed almost excately as the first time around!My biggest problem overall was the "Visions" Michael had of his Mother, a White Horse and Himself as a Child! I heard Rob Zombie made a Comparison to Frankenstein when it came to Michael Myers, that there is this "Little Child" trapped within the Body of this Brutish Giant! And the many many Scenes of Michael without his Mask was just dissappointing!On Screen it just came off Stupid and Amateurish! Eventually this Movie wasn't Scary, Alice in Wonderland is Scarier compared to this and the End was "AntiClimatic" Did the Phrase "Bring her Home" refer to the Mental Ward? Overall, this was an apparently 'Thrown Together" for the sake of making a fast Buck Piece of Fluff that I do hope is the End of the "Revisioning" of the Classic that These versions are based upon!! As its Tag Line says "Family is Forever" and Bad Movies are easily Forgotten!! This one definately belongs in that Catagory!
There's really no way to sugarcoat this but Rob Zombie should stick to music. Halloween was good, really good but this was a bigger letdown than fruitstripe gum. The movie started off intense and had me on my seat but the whole white horse and his mom thing was just dumb. After a while it just turned into another slow paced bore-fest. I felt like I was watching another half-installment of Lord of the Rings for the fact he was just walking the majority of it. And yes having a few kill scenes but it seems that Rob has a major talent of sucking the theme out and spitting it back up into a way too overdramatized and way to over in depth film. In short if you can get in for free go judge it for yourself but I wouldn't shell out another fee to see this. Another built up expectation that should've come out straight to dvd.
Posted By: ZombieHunter at 1:30pm, August 29, 2009
I don't think I have ever been so damn disappointed with a horror movie in my life. Why does he always have to put his "no talent" wife in his movies? she can't act, she doesn't scare me, and her scenes SUCK! the white horse bullshit was dumb and there were way too many dream sequences. The kills were brutal but had no thought to them, I felt embarrassed watching the thing, Every director makes a shitty movie and this is Rob's. go see it for the sake of knowing mistakes happen.
Halloween 2 was good but it could of been better. The movie was entertaining refferring to the blood & violence. Tyler Mane was Awesome as Adult Michael Myers. Chase Wright Vanek was so much better then whats his face as young Michael Myer. Sheri Moon Zombie looked like an anorexic ghost, plus there was no need for the white horse. I didn't like the fact that they made the hospital scene a dream. I didn't mind the other dreams in the movie. I'm a die hard Halloween but I'm going to have to give Halloween 2 an 8, sorry. Friday The 13Th remake was better then this.
i went into this movie with an open mind, i liked his remake, i liked devils rejects, and house of a 1000 corpses. this movie is just a big mess, sheri moon is one of the worst actresses ever and her scenes were beyond pointless...yes michael was intense and the violence was nice for the film, however the shitty story doesnt make up for it.., i was actually laughing my ass off during the dream sequences with sheri and daegs replacement.."when are we gonna be a family again mom" "soon, michael soon" so stupid.. it just seemed too rushed and poorly put together. im not a rob zombie hater though, i do like some of his other movies, and white zombie was the shit..hes definately talented i cant deny that, but this movie is easily his worst. dissapointed.
Are you Fuckng Kidding me, if u fans didnt like this masterpiece u hav to be complete Fuck heads (mr disgusting i know longer will be a member of ure website), te film was completely new! a fantastic film the second best in the series
I thought that Zombie did a fantastic job with this movie. I don't know if he has plans for another, but this will be hard to top.
Posted By: StatutoryApe at 10:41am, August 29, 2009
Hand's down best goddamn sequel in the series. Period. Gone are the days of cheesy kills with phone chords and camera tripod legs, and thank god for that. It amazes me how people claim this is the worst on out of the entire series. Perhaps Busta Rhymes shoulda won a freakin oscar for his OUTSTANDING acting work in Resurrection right? Come on.
Finally, for the first time since the original, your given a Myers that shows passion and sheer brutality in his kills. You hear his anger with the sounds of him straining to push a knife deeper into someones body. And it works. It fits.
Most reviews are trashing the fact Myers looks like a bum, which amazes me again. The guys homeless... no money for razors... and I highly doubt he'd take into consideration his need to be clean shaven to impress people....
I coulda done without Sherri being in the film, however it was fairly easy to understand what Zombie was trying to get across. Myers is just a young boy inside a massively large dudes body.
People will rag on this film because it was different. Myers was given a story, a background, some insight into how he functioned, which was never once touched on in any of the sequels.
But, since Zombie stated he's done with the Halloween series, maybe you call and rest assured that some jackass writer will find a way to bring him back, give him a nice haircut and a shave, go buy him some clean clothes, bring him down to a halloween store and get him a new mask, and send him about his marry way
Posted By: CasioArgento at 10:16am, August 29, 2009
A bad Movie... really bad! I´m shocked about how many People on this Board say stuff like "best Movie ever" - Seriously?
This isn´t even a Movie - it´s just a Collection of badly shot Scenes that don´t fit together!
Rob Zombie's Halloween II is either one of the best horror movies of the last 10 years or the worst movie ever made. I'm not sure yet. All I know is that I have just seen a substantial film. I'm still taking it all in. There is so much going on in this film that it requires at least another viewing to confirm what I saw. For now - 10 out 10
I know I'm in the minority, but I loved it! It was exactly what I expected. I'm not going to give it too much credit, though. I see all of its flaws, but they just didn't bother me too much. I think Rob Zombie has really, really progressed as a director, but not so much as a writer.
It suffered from what all his films do, the bad dialogue, the unneeded throw away scenes, the inevitable red necks showing up, etc. But I accepted it for all it's flaws. It's like the original Halloween II; with all it's major flaws taken in account, I still loved it.
I loved the brutality of Michael more than anything. All in all, I loved it, but it felt kinda heartless. I really think it is to the remake as The Devil's Rejects was to House of 1000 Corpses.
Overall the movie was great...there def were some holes in the plot line and it really seemed rushed. I went into the movie expecting an epic story much like Devils Rejects and was a little let down. I was also highly distracted by the fact a mother that sat next to me brought her two children maybe they were 7 or 8 and had to explain to them it wasnt real. Seriously it takes a winner of a parent to bring their children to a viseral brutal movie of this calibur... Loved the movie tho, Just dont expect anymore then a slasher film from it
SPOILER FREE: Was there problems? Yes. Was there holes? Yes. But was it entertaining? Hell yes! And that is what a movie is supposed to do. It is straight up visceral expoitation go go go fun, and it does not let up. It is definitely Zombie's own film, which i believe is what the hardcore fans have a problem with. They had a different idea of what this movie (and its predecessor) SHOULD be. I don't know what you were expecting from a horror movie, let alone a slasher flick other than to be entertained. Its all there: brutal violence and gore, some scares, some eyecandy, a very quick pace. We already know the characters, so little time is wasted reintroducing them, but they have changed from pt 1, so even the characters arn't a retread, they are the same but new. The biggest flaw with this flick is Laurie. She really is a weak link, and not likable as a heroine...but thats ok, because it makes you root for Michael that much more. Loomis fans will also be disappointed as he is more of a sidebar here, and he is not Carpenters Loomis, but that has been the point of RZs vision from the get go, to give us something different, something new. Why remake the exact movie with just different actors delivering the same lines. I for one liked Loomis' very flawed character. For horror, notably slasher fans, if you can get past your preconceptions and let go of expectations, I think you'll enjoy the ride a whole lot more. 8/10
To be honest I wasn't expecting much Halloween II. I figured it would be one of those repetitive slasher movies where everyone dies. To some extent it was, but it wasn't as boring as I had expected. I appreciated the surreal quality of the dreams and thought the white horse was something new and interesting. There were too many random killings where the victims never have a ghost of a chance and spend all of their last seconds giveing Laurie false reasurrance and listening to her cry. It was also frustrating how Michael would just appear at the right place at the right time, and how this movie abused time so completley that the characters had teleport-like omnipresence
I am still in awe over how good this movie is. I saw it once Thursday and Twice on Friday. I plan to see it at least 2 more times.
To put it simply, it is the best slasher film I have ever seen. I'm a old school fan too.. I'm 35 and i grew up on Michael, Jason and Freddy. But this film is on a level above.
While I liked Rob Zombie's Halloween remake, I am the first to admit it has flaws. Not this time, it is nearly perfect. My one and only issue is its cut a bit short, this amazing film needs more room to breath. I am hoping for a Director's Cut.
Brad Dorif is incredible as is most of the cast. Great story, excellent character development, despite limited screentime, brutal violence, amazing use of music. I love the use of the 16mm film and the DP is astounding. I just can't say enough.
I hope they reboot after this, because I don't want to see someone else try to make a sequel to this incredible vision.
This is more than a horror film, its an intense, brutal work of raw art.
I am still in awe over how good this movie is. I saw it once Thursday and Twice on Friday. I plan to see it at least 2 more times.
To put it simply, it is the best slasher film I have ever seen. I'm a old school fan too.. I'm 35 and i grew up on Michael, Jason and Freddy. But this film is on a level above.
While I liked Rob Zombie's Halloween remake, I am the first to admit it has flaws. Not this time, it is nearly perfect. My one and only issue is its cut a bit short, this amazing film needs more room to breath. I am hoping for a Director's Cut.
Brad Dorif is incredible as is most of the cast. Great story, excellent character development, despite limited screentime, brutal violence, amazing use of music. I love the use of the 16mm film and the DP is astounding. I just can't say enough.
I hope they reboot after this, because I don't want to see someone else try to make a sequel to this incredible vision.
This is more than a horror film, its an intense, brutal work of raw art.
thought that it was a good flick... i don't think that annie was rapped by michael. she was in her bath robe and started the water. she was probably naked under the robe and had it pulled off her as she tried to get away from Michael. Don't think Zombie would take it that far. just my thoughts.
what the fuck.... 3 skulls... are you kidding me...
look... bloody. you obviously don't like rob zombie.
maybe he was mean to you or something i don't know maybe your jealous.
anyway on my review.
this movie was the best of all the halloween movies.
better then all of them..
rob zombie a once scary character.
to a terrifying mad man.
scout taler compton was outstanding.
better then jamie lee.
in my eyes she is the new lurie strode/ angel myers.
tyler mane was awesome of course he was awesome. incredible acting with out even saying a word.
oh and one other thing to bloody-disgusting.
judith was not there cause michael hated her.
if you even payed attention.
if you remeber he killed her.
he didnt kill his mother or his baby sister.
over it was a anawesome movie 9 out 10
because i liked deag better
Well, we caught an early showing of the film today, and it was pretty much exactly what I was expecting it to be. The violence was spectacular, the dude that got his face turned into hamburger was difficult to watch, but like Mr. Disgusting pointed out, there were a few things here that need hasing over.
First off, I completely agree with the assessment that Dr. Loomis had no point in the movie whatsoever except to tie the loose ends together from the first time around. McDowells' Gale Weathers persona of Dr. Loomis astounded me. Loomis has always been the heart of the Haloween films, the one person that really "got" Michael and would prove to be the monster's undoing (or at least attempt it). Here, Loomis just wandered around and whined about his book. Pointless.
As for Deborah and the horse, it intrigued me, but felt like it belonged in another horror movie. Deborah Meyers in the first film did not seem to be the "reason behind the rage" so to speak, but just a mother that was dealt an extremely crappy hand in life and tried to make do the best she could, ultimately letting it get the best of her and ending her life. In the sequel, she is the demonic presence that urges Michael on.
Then I realized something. We are seeing Deborah through Michael's eyes at this point and ultimately through Laurie's once her mind snaps. All that she was in life is stripped away and she has been turned into what Michael has always wanted her to be. Someone that understands his insanity and not only understands it, but thrives on it and feeds off it. I believe that in the scene with Annie where she tells him to enjoy himself, it isn't sex that thrills Michael, I don't think he raped her. It is the violence that he gets to do to her.
The white horse simply represents to me that Michael looked at his mother as his saving grace. With her gone, he kept her around in his mind, twisted her to his own ends, and waited for her to come back to him. Maybe that's why he was so after Laurie, because he was trying to recapture that famil y that he once had. I don't see Judith Meyers missing from the picture the way you see it either. She wouldn't be there, because to Micahel, she never really mattered. The only family that he loved was Deborah and Boo. So therefore those were the ones that he wanted.
Anyway, spent too much time on that. All in all, it was effectively gory and violent and fun to watch. Will definetly be picking up the DVD when its released.
I'll give it the same score of 6/10. Could've been more, but the Loomis thing and the Deborah with the white horse thing really bugged me. Looked like something out of Lady in White.
Rob Zombie's Halloween II, is a jumbled mess of a film that is bound to be even more polarizing than his remake of John Carpenter's 1978 classic two years ago. The film picks up right where we left off in the previous installment. Laurie Strode (Scout Taylor-Compton) wanders aimlessly through the streets of Haddonfield, bloody, near catatonic, and packing heat. She is picked up by Sheriff Brackett (The wonderful Brad Dourif) and whisked away to the relative safety of the hospital. Michael Myers has meanwhile managed to escape from a coroner's van after the EMT's, while engaging in a perverted discussion about sexual relations with a corpse, run full on into a cow. Laurie wakes up in her hospital bed, and Michael starts killing people. There is a spectacular chase scene that culminates with Michael axing his way through the walls of a guard shack. This was a great sequence until POOF... Laurie wakes up in her own bed at home. It was all a dream! This beginning just goes to show you that the film that you are watching, will leave you both tense, and frustrated. Rob Zombie is a talented filmmaker, but his over-reliance on his signature hellbilly style, proves to be his undoing in this, his first truly disappointing film. It seems that he is even more enslaved by his influences than Quentin Tarantino is. There's nothing wrong with a little homage, but when the film is wall to wall with it, and the only thing holding it up is a rickety plot, the film collapses under the weight of it's own pretensions. Stylistically, Halloween II is both beautiful, and monstrously grimy. The shots are composed beautifully, but what's in the frame is usually so dirty that it makes you yearn for the gloss of the Zombie's first Halloween. The returning characters are all different this time out, but not in an organic way. Laurie Strode is now a skanky, loudmouth, tortured soul, that cries and screams one minute, and then hoots and hollers the next; sometimes within the same scene. Dr. Loomis is now a completely fame-ensnared media whore, more interested in selling books and mugging for reporters than he is giving any coherent insight into the tragic murders that took place one year before. Michael Myers has apparently been holing up for the past year in a shack, biding his time for the holiday to come back around so he can return to his murderous ways. Gone, is the unstoppable killer that wasted no time dispatching his victims in a single night. Now, he seems to be waiting for the go-ahead from Mommy to do what he loves to do. Debra Myers is now a ghost that haunts both Michael and Laurie. It would seem that she is not just in his head, thus making this the first time that the Halloween franchise has stepped firmly and proudly into the supernatural realm (I do not count the Thorn Curse from part six because that could have just been hypnosis conducted by a cult). The only saving grace, as far as characters go, are Sheriff Brackett, and his daughter Annie. I could have done without the rest of them, including THIS Michael Myers, and enjoyed a nice drama about this relationship. Brad Dourif does his best to save the film, and Danielle Harris proves that she has the talent to carry a film on her own. Once again, she is given a harrowing scene to play, and once again, she more than rises to the occasion and delivers a haunting performance. GIVE THIS GIRL MORE WORK HOLLYWOOD!!!! Dourif proves that he's one of the best character actors around, and imbues his performance with pathos not usually seen in a slasher flick. I wish I had something positive to say about Taylor-Compton. When I first saw her in Halloween, I thought that it might just be the character that was written to be annoying, but having sat through her second interpretation of Laurie, I can firmly say that if there is a more annoying young actress in film today, I have not yet had the misfortune of seeing her. The girl just simply cannot act. She is so shrill, that at several points in the film, I was hoping that Michael would just spring up kill her already. Tyler Mane does a good job at playing Myers as written. Myers is more violent this time out, and Mane really goes for it. Malcolm McDowell is simply wasted here. He's gives as good as he can, but the material is just not there. There are a few script contrivances that make no sense either. Just where the hell is Haddonfield? I know it's supposed to be a small town in Illinois, so why is there a major late night talk show in this little town, and what the hell is Weird Al Yankovic doing there? Also, Just how the hell did Loomis not only figure out where the abandoned shack where Michael takes Laurie is, but how did he get there so fast? One could go absolutely crazy trying to figure these things out. I would say just quit trying to do so, and chalk it up to a case of abysmal writing. Somewhere between the prolific profanity, and murky aesthetic, I got lost and wondered just how bad it could get. Answer: VERY.
As the credits rolled on the screen, i found myself saying out loud "what the f*ck". I had went in with hopes after enjoying zombies brutal interpretation of mike rather than the suspensful aspected carpetner brought about. however, this movie just plain pissed me off. after being shot point blank by laurie in zombies remake, mike walks out of the police vehicle he was tied down in and is perfectly fine. the only scene i actually enjoyed was the hopsital; filled with graphic violence and actual fear for a crippled laurie and as she runs from a pissed off killer. however, the movie turns on its self as this turns out to be nothing more than a dream of laurie.
in this sequel, i honestly wanted laurie to be killed. she turned into some little punk/goth girl with alice cooper posters and vulgar writings on her wall. Annie, on the other hand, who survied a brutal attack just as laurie had, remains normal and doesnt project self pity through a depressed look. i did not care for laurie one bit, but rather took sympathy to annies outcome.
michael in this movie looks like a hobo santa claus. each of his kills is accompanied by his loud grunts, which is unlike this character to make even the slightest vocal sound; aside from breathing. Also, these visions mike has of his family made no sense and took away from any horror aspect of the film as i began wondering if michael was a schizophrenic.
i was happy when loomis was brutally stabbed. zombie made this loomis into a self centered ass hole bent on selling books. he got what he deserved and was not in any way necessary for this film.
as for zombie: the white trash shit that filled his first two movies do not work in halloween. stop having f*cked up people that discuss rape and sex with dead bodies. it doesnt work. if thats the only thing he knows how to write, then he seriously needs to stop.
this movie had no story, no point, and zombies original ideas hardly formulated anything more than killing random people as mike walked to haddonfield.
Although strangley entertaining, this movie had me in laughter more than fear.
Though H2 had some weird moments (the ghost stuff), I thought the brutal fatalities were well worth the price of admission. Actually, when the first one (well, the first one we see) came about, I'd already gotten my money's worth.
Mike is mad in this one. I mean, like during the watching, there was almost this silence that sounded like, "Dag, Mike. It's like that, huh?" There was even some squirming. (Well, I wasn't looking that hard at folks, but I felt it. And to be honest with you, I'm hard core, nah'mean? But there were a couple of times that I was thrown for a bit. Got to imagining a family member or something having to be at the mercy of one of these deaths and it wasn't too soothing to my mind. But the sheer courage of sticking this on the screen pulled me out of that. Shoot, this is how Mike is supposed to do it, y'know? None of that weak thin slice across the neck crap--no time or disposition to allow for that.
Thumbs up on realistic kills. Slight thumbs sideways on the ghostly crap. But better than The Final Destination, IMO.
Posted By: Blood-Sicles at 1:39am, August 29, 2009
The atmosphere was GREAT. A good mix of gritty and Halloween atmosphere. Definitely the best part of the film!
The acting is pretty good, although you never feel sympathy for anyone except Danielle Harris. Dr. Loomis was an asshole too which sucked. Who becomes a victim, then profits off of his (and others') misery??
Some great kills were ruined by the fact they were "just a dream," but there's plenty of in-reality death and it's very brutal (even if they shy away from the gushy red stuff). Remember this is VIOLENT, not GORY.
It isn't amazing, but there has been a whole lot worse in this franchise. See it on the big screen. It's insane!
(Did anyone else have a bunch of families and small children in their theater? I sat next to some 5 year old girl and constantly heard some horror-buff wannabe kid around 11 behind me blab on about every kill... It takes a terrible parent to sit through this with a child.)
Posted By: Gore_Freak08 at 1:38am, August 29, 2009
When the movie begins with another pseudo-psychological quote and a very unnecessarily detailed surgery on Laurie's gory body, all I could say about this movie is that it was meant to be released direct-to-video. The quality of the film is terrible. Some scenes where the atmosphere must be crystal clear are just grainy and blurry. Rob Zombie over-emphasized his love for the 'grungy' lifestyle as the bathroom that Annie and Laurie share and Laurie's room are just disgusting. I don't believe that any girl would allow her bathroom to be this dirty, let alone two girls. Sam Loomis was repulsive in this film, the cheesy lines that he became infamous for in H1 were replaced by sheer egotism and greed. Michael once again goes around killing random people. The only part in this movie that I kind of enjoyed was the "party" scene. We meet the characters a couple of scenes BEFORE they actually get murdered -- that dirty redneck party scene reminded me of Halloween 5's party. Laurie was the most annoying, squealing bitch in this whole movie. She was NOT a leading character! I said to myself several times, "oh god, just fucking kill her." One positive aspect of this film is some of the hilariously wacko supporting characters, like the owner of the (now completely sexually tainted) 'The Rabbit in Red Lounge' as he's about to have sex with one of the strippers before being killed. Other than that, the acting was just horrid. Laurie goes around crying and having panic attacks, then a couple of seconds later she's laughing and wanting to get wasted. There's no sympathy for anyone in this film except, maybe, Sheriff Brackett when he finds Annie dead on her bathroom floor. Once again Zombie fails at trying to make a coherent film and instead produces some kind of tasteless feature-long music video. Oh, by the way, we actually get to see Michael stab two people! :)
I felt upset after seeing Halloween 2. It was one of the films I was most looking forward to in 2009. Sadly it didn't deliver what I wanted. First halloween does some things well, the vicious barrage of stabs early in the film feels extremely real and with such force its disturbing. One editing choice of not showing a death in the house but having the audio play over the next scene was awesome. It felt like those times when u are listening in on someone's argument but to the way extreme where they are being brutally attacked and leaving yourself to fill in the visuals. The things where Halloween 2 falls short is the story and dream sequences. The story at times seems interesting, Malcolm McDowell's character is interesting and his struggles should have some weight but didn't at all. The dream sequences is what most people will complain about since it is the most obvious problem. They don't make sense. One of which is pretty cool and seems to try to fit in. where michael is standing infront of a table with Laurie laying on it. She needs to be "invited" back into the family. Cool...having a scene where she is trapped in a clear coffin at her mothers feet then having seizure...not cool. It seems like Rob Zombie came up with a cool idea and just tacked it onto the film. Where the film doesn't fall short is the pacing. It feels right. You are never bored or uninterested. Michael is always looming about or they attempting to develop the story which they don't do well...but something is always happening.
Ok, I will get right to the point: This movie was not a re-imagining. It was a Halloween 4 and 5 remake, with a tiny tiny bit of orginal H2 sprinkled in at the beginning. If you watch the movie from beginning to end, there are so many scenes, situations, characters, etc., that are just blatent take-off's from H4 and H5. I won't give you any examples, but I bet you can find them yourself without even trying.
Technically it was good and bad. Bad in being so dark and so choppy in the camera work. Good because of some of the cinemtography. Some of that was down right beautiful. The editing was pretty good, however, the use of the Moody Blues' "Knight's in White Satin" which was so symbolic in the first part of the movie, ceased to exist later, and was lost for the remainder of the movie. It was like it was forgotten to be edited back in, but it was good sybolism at first that just lost it's way.
The characters were pure Zombie. I really didn't like Laurie, though Scout did a good job in portraying her. Zombie really skanked the wholesome girl up pretty bad. I loved Brackett and Annie. They were solid. Both as characters and actors, and Brad Duriff was the best actor in the movie as far as I'm concerned. The Loomis character was merely a cameo who's final entry into the world of Michael was just plain stupid. Michael just showed up and killed. He was merely a brute, and didn't show the flavor of Michael like he did in the first pic. He was almost an afterthought as far as I was concerned.
No real scares, but the brutality was totally over-the-top. It even went so far as Michael doing the "Rocky Balboa" punching groans as he was knifing someone. The "dream" scenes with Sheri were well acted, but you never really knew where they were coming from, and definately didn't know where they were going. They totally didn't make any sense, and led to nowhere. The ending was totally H4.
So there you have it. The movie is a good Zombie movie, but it lacked as a Halloween movie. Most of that entire movie was totally taken from the prior sequals, but just re-manuvered, and laced with more butality.
It wasnt bad, but not great either. It was honestly just wierd. Grunting I liked(made him more psychotic)look was great but why when some1 would try and run away from michael did it go into slow motion..? Took me out of the moment. And can u say violent??! Most brutal halloween yet. The whole fkin horse shit, What the hell RZ? I loved the first remake(in my top 10)...this 1-not so much../and please dont go into your theatre and wear a clown wig/mask..very distracting.
1. Who scored this thing, the only original music from the Halloween films was used 2 minutes prior to the credits and during them- What the Heck Really ??
2. Haddonfield is not a farm town-- it is supposed to look like every other small town in America.
3. MICHAEL SHOULD NOT GRUNT- EVER
4. I saw Michael's face so many times, I thought I would puke, since when did Michael become the lead singer of ZZ TOP ?
5. I am not sure if Rob had a chance to check out Friday the 13th, but Jason is the one who is told to kill people by his mother NOT MICHAEL.
6. This movie was an absolute gorefest, I love gore, but its not what Halloween is about. Carpenter scared you with showing someones liver.
7. Dr. Loomis is a good guy, it made him out to be a real pile, and gave a very poor attempt to redeem his character in the last minute of the film.
8. I am not sure what the hell was the deal with the "White Horse" I think Rob does a ton of acid.
9. Michael eating a human heart... I don't even know what to say.
10. I don't know what time frame Rob is going for, everyone is wearing 70s T shirts, and Alice cooper posters hanging on the wall, yet laurie is driving a Mitusbishi from the 90s. I grew up in the 90 and no one had an Alice poster on the wall(even though he rules) I do know that my dad did however!
Playing to a half-filled auditorium at 7pm on opening night, Halloween II lived down to expectations. Poorly photographed, grainy as hell, and edited in such rapid fire fashion so as to render the action very difficult to comprehend, Zombie's sequel doesn't have anything new to add to the Halloween canon. Well, except for his wife and a horse. Over and over and over and over and over...
After a promising first film, House Of 1,000 Corpses, and hen the modern masterpiece The Devils Rejects, Rob Zombie could've done just about anything. Why he chose to destroy the Halloween franchise I guess we'll never know.
Posted By: spencer6590 at 12:31am, August 29, 2009
Worst movie in the Halloween franchise, and this is including Halloween 3. This is NOT a Halloween movie. It's a Rob Zombie piece of shit.
His wife is a HORRIBLE actress and has no place in this movie whatsoever, except he's whipped and she got him to put her in another movie of his.
The new young Michael is an AWFUL actor. There's no characters to root for, and they all look as if they don't know what a shower will do because they look as if they haven't in years.
Violence does not mean you can not have a decent plot. Thank you for killing my love of horror movies, Rob Zombie. FUCK YOU.
I thought of writing very little, since there was clearly so little work that went into this movie (or perhaps thought would be a better word), but I do need to get a few things off my chest...
Let's start with the positives:
1. Rob Zombie made brilliant use of 16mm film to get some good shots.
Okay, now that the ONLY positive is out of the way, let's get to the negatives (I only have 4595 characters remaining):
1. The white horse...yup, Michael Myers always had a WHITE HORSE following him around. If you wanna waste your hard-earned money, go to this movie to see the beautiful white horse.
2. Absolutely EVERYTHING SUCKED about this movie.
3. ZERO direction. Movie jumped all over the map. Half of it was a typical slasher flick where random people get killed for no reason. Don't believe it?? Michael brought his WHITE HORSE to the strip club. Guess a change for Rob Zombie to exploit women and show nudity since the rest of the movie was so incredible boring.
4. Zombie killed off Dr. Loomis by burying him as an arrogant ass who went out of his way to make money and tour the talk show circuit with Weird Al Yankovic. Don't believe it?? It's your money, go spend it and enjoy Weird Al.
5. Incredible sequence in the hospital. Almost made you scared and wonderfully filmed. Sound like a positive?? Oh wait, it was all a dream so first 20 minutes of movie completely wasted.
6. Two girls who almost got killed in part one have pictures of serial killers on their walls in their crack house. Yup, that's exactly what "victims" do. Put pictures of serial killers on their walls after they were almost killed themselves. Laughable at best!
7. Poor soundtrack. In fact, original score we are used to hearing (theme song) is played only once. That's right, DURING THE CREDITS. If you've managed not to walk out before that.
8. Too many flashbacks. This movie is so poor that they needed all the flashbacks to show scenes from first remake so people didn't walk out 5 minutes into movie.
9. Not scary...at all. Predictable and no direction. This movie jumps all over the map but at least there is a fantastic scene where they corner Myers in a shack in the forest. Oh, that's right cause someone the TV reporters got their before the police did when nobody even knew he was killing anyone and HOW did the reporters get there to broadcast live??
10. I'd keep writing but like this movie, it's not worth your time. SAVE yourself some money and don't watch this movie. Unless you have a thing for white horses and fluffy unicorns!!
I suppose if they wanted to find a way to kill of Michael Myers, or the Halloween series, they could always....oh wait, they hired Rob Zombie and he DID kill this series off.
Now, where's the number zero or ONE to rate this movie!!??
Posted By: raisedbybugs at 11:47pm, August 28, 2009
After much anticipation, finally saw this last night at midnight. The first major thing I noticed was the ugly and dark tone of the entire film. While initially a turn off, I now find it kind of crucial to the grittiness and voyeuristic style of the movie. Certain scenes felt almost snuff-like with the decision for Halloween 2 to be shot in 16 mm as opposed to the first being in polished 35 mm. Must be honest, the hallucinations really seemed to pull me from the movie each time they happened, which seemed to get more and more frequent as the film progressed. Which is a shame because I feel it was juxtaposed awkwardly with the more realistic scenes. These scenes include creepy atmospheric landscapes of Myers stalking fields and down streets silently in eerie morning light, forensics pictures as the first police report to the scene of Myers shot dead on his front yard, breakfast after an awkward nightmare at the Brackett's house. Never was a huge fan of surrealism though. I loved the serious tone Zombie set with Halloween and felt that H2 had more of a House of 1000 Corpses feel with it's somewhat embarrassingly edited dream sequences. The death in this movie, while exploitative, also never seemed glorified somehow. It was quite cringe worthy and I do consider myself a seasoned horror fan. Majority of the movie takes place in extreme darkness or dimly lit sets and the fact that it also seems to favor extreme close ups and tight cuts only enhances the claustrophobia of the entire picture. At no point did it seem to have a plot for more than ten minutes at a time but in a way, the jump from scene to scene almost make it feel more like a dream than watching a movie. Predictable...but pretty damn innovative at the same time.
I didn't expect a Halloween movie to be so violent! The story and acting were pretty good. The worst part of this movie is when *SPOILER* Annie get's killed! She was the only character the I cared about. Other than the unnecessary over the top violence, this movie was pretty good!
I'm not saying I don't like to see a lot of violence in movies, I'm just saying it wasn't right for Halloween.
It could have been much better had Rob not been rushed. Alas, he made this movie more quickly than he normally would have, and it shows. In fact, he made it reluctantly.
I see what he was trying to do, and I support him in his effort. It's just hard to mix and eerie psychological horror film with a slasher. Imagine if Tim Burton had produced the absinthe/laudinum hallucination scenes from "From Hell." Now randomly inject those into a hardcore slasher. It jolts your brain, but not in a good way. It's more of a "what the fuck?" way.
The idea was to humanize Michael and tell his story. Rob wanted to show Michael as a fragile, tragic child trapped in the body of this huge brutish adult. I'm all for that. He's trying to explain why Michael kills, which is an extension of the idea behind the first remake. Another reason I like the idea is that Rob wasn't afraid to take chances. We both know, though, that sometimes when you take chances they don't work out the way we planned.
A lot of that movie was a visual clusterfuck. I'm sure Rob wanted it to be visually confusing at parts, but I started to feel like the crew from "The Blair Witch Project" was behind the camera at parts. I actually started getting dizzy when he overused the stereotypical rotating-shot-of-the-tree-tops-to-show-we're-lost-in-the-wo ods. Not typical Zombie. Another reason a lot of the cinematography pissed me off was that the kills weren't shot very cleanly. They were, for the most part, close up and presented like a hyperspeed slideshow.
Along with the kills, and back to humanizing Michael, here's another piss-me-off point. Michael now grunts when he puts forth the effort to plunge a sharp object into someone's chest. What the fuck? One of the scariest things about Michael Meyers and Jason Voorhies is that they're fucking silent!
Overall I gave it a 7 of 10 for the following reasons. First, Rob showed forward thinking with the character and story, and he wasn't afraid to step outside of what people expected from a Rob Zombie slasher. Next, the story itself was pretty good. It did have some are-you-fucking-serious points, but overall it wasn't bad. Third, the kill scene behind the strip joint is righteous.
ha the guys talking shit about this movie make me laugh.why even bother to go watch it i have no clue this movie was perfect loved every second of it. bet you anything you'll go see any other movie he makes. you guys need to grow up and stop bitching like 4 year olds go watch your stupid old ass movies maybe then you'll be happy with yourselves
Just got out of the theater. I took a few notes while watching....point form mind you.
Spoilers ahead.
1. I liked the look and feel of the film for the most part. The dream/hallucination sequences were interesting but I would have liked to see them in a different movie. Although it was interesting to get a glimpse into why Michael is the way he is. BUT it's a huge catch 22 because than you humanize him and I didn't like that aspect of it. Tough one. When I think back to John Carpenters Halloween and Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II, I knew MM was driven by a force to kill his sister, his remaining blood line. It was apparent. I don't think this explanation was really needed. I kept laughing at how many times Zombie's wife was snuck in. I imagined RZ working on the script and her saying, "Well you can fit me in here too ya know."
2. Hated what Zombie turned Loomis into. I mean Zombie can obviously do what he wants with the character but I feel it was a big misstep. I would have preferred if he would have let Loomis' character rest in piece at the end of the first one.
3. This has been brought up before based on some of the stills released, But why is it that Annie's bedroom has a huge poster of a serial killer on her wall!!!!!! This makes no sense. They were both almost killed in the last film by one!
4. I loved the hospital scene at the beginning. I really loved how brutally gross the operating scene was. This really made me focus on Laurie as a flesh and blood person. It felt very real. It painted her fragile. I can't say how much I loved that.
5. Annie's place looks like they live in a crack house. The reason I bring it up is because it totally took me out of the movie. Not very believable. Stunk of Zombie.
6. Hobo/Jedi Michael Myers was pretty horrible. Especially the field shots. Where the hell is he walking from???
7. A casting problem I had with the first one and obviously this one as well was that Michael Myers is way to big and bulky. I think a skinnier, lanky Michael is way scarier. When a huge guy tips a car over we can almost buy it. When a scrawny guy does it we are left in awe over it.
8. One thing I thought I was liking about this Michael was that he only would kill with the mask on. There's a scene where these hillbillies tell Michael to get off their land. Michael isn't wearing the mask. They kick the shit out of him and Michael does nothing. Michael than puts the mask on and attacks them. I kind of liked that. Than the very next scene he stepped on a guys head with the mask off so that theory went out the window.
9. Too much grunting!!!!
10. I didn't mind the half masked Michael Myers or the mask-less one as much as I thought I was going to. I think the reason is because it didin't really feel like a Halloween movie to me after the hospital scene. Which by the way, Michael's mask looks pretty cool in.
11. Score was okay. Even though Zombie steers clear of the original Carpenter score until the end hospital scene/credits, there are a few scenes where the music sounds like it was from the original but altered into an odd new tone.
12. The stripper getting her head bashed into the mirror reminded me of Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II...the hot tub scene.
13. I love how Laurie is dressed like RZ half way through the movie. I think she borrowed his hat! WTF was that about.
14. The Rocky Horror Picture Show costumes were awesome!
15. Zombie tries to make the audience laugh along with his type of humor but no one in the screening I was at laughed at all. I did chuckle out loud at Annie's gum ball line!
To wrap it all up I would say I felt like I was watching a Halloween film in an alternative universe if that makes any sense. I didn't hate it...but I probably never need to watch it again. It was interesting but disappointing as well.
Posted By: dachozinone06 at 11:08pm, August 28, 2009
MINOR SPOILERS
I saw the movie earlier today and I must say is lived up to my expectations. The beginning hopsital sequence was brilliant. Brad douriff was sensational as bracket. The movie was alot more emotional then I thought it would be, playing alot like a drama with horror elements tossed in. What I love most about it was how real it felt, the kills had a documentary type feel as if I was watching real footage. The movie really showed the effect on not only individual characters but on the community as a whole and there innfatuation with myers. One of the best scenes IMO is when loomis is at the book siging and linda's father confronts him. It was an emotional scene and you feel for the father. THIS MOVIE IS VERY BRUTAL!!! One of the most brutal movies i've seen. ONE OF THE MOST SHOCKING THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN IN A MOVIE THEATER, it wasn't a specific seen but there was at least 15 elderly people in there that really suprised me lol. Most seemed to have enjoyed it, tears were definatly shed in the theater and not during the scenes you would think, not the annie scene. But some of thie kills got huge reactions from the crowd because of how real they felt. I felt as if I was witnessing the brutal slaughter of these people. The acting was a big step up in this than in the first movie. I don't have a problem at all with Loomis in this movie I found his character to be a more realistic view of what loomis would have become. In the real world people sell ad capitalize on controversy and that is what he was doing. This movie was very good IMO the only things I have a problem with are some of the sheri-moon scenes. Getting to see what's going on in Michael's head is cool but the acting was ridiculous by moon. A good actress could have pulled it off. This movie mos. def. had it's share of HOLY *beep* moments, and keeps you entertained. I'd say this is right on par with THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, if not better.
4 out of 5
Sheri and chase kept it from being a five
Posted By: Rockstarport at 11:00pm, August 28, 2009
This was a pretty bad movie. Pretty weak in every sense of the word. Bad acting (except from Mr. Dourif) A horrific script. This is Mr. Zombie's thought process. Well i'm totally stuck here I know lets just have her say "fuck" about a thousand times and close on some crazy weird shit that has nothing to do with anything. After finding out the best part of the movie (the begining) was a dreams, I was like are you serious? The Halloween and the Mike Myers character really NEEDS to finally die. Maybe Rob can grow soma balls and create his own ORIGINAL Horror character, and stop ripping off everyone's ideas.
H2 was more of a mess then a baby's diaper! I need several doses of propethol to forget about this monstrosity of a movie. Only thing that shed any light on the film was the red exit signs. From the overuse of the "F" word like a broken record, trailer park stereotypes, gratuitous cameos and angelic images of Sheri Moon, It's no surprise here that the most embarrassing, and very stupid moments belong to Sheri who appears alongside a white horse, was she tripping on shrooms? There was no hint that this film even took place on Halloween night, looked like scenes from House of A 1000 corpses mixed with the Michael Myers character. Did Lori even have a paragraph worth mentioning? All I remember were those fake and obnoxious screams that were more over played then Paris Hiltons Sex tape. I will say the violence was top notch but with no story to build on the characters, I didn't care. And Loomis being a sellout when he sees an old photo of himself dressed in Donald Pleasence’s trenchcoat, just horrible!
Awesome movie!! Its nice to step inside the mind of Rob Zombie and see what he sees..Very brutal and in some parts visually disturbing,loved every second of it!!!! Great job Mr. Zombie!!!
OMG!!!! I was expecting it suck! The gore was awesome it was scary,brutal,and unlike any Halloween movie I've seen. Ok some parts were a little ugh but over all it was a great movie experience!
Ok so ROB.....U ROCK! I was not happy with your first remake.I loved the second half but the first half didn't feel like Michael.Well in this one you brought him back! I loved it! I thought every aspect fitted.I did think Sheri(Debroah) & young Michael showed just a little too much but it gave us a reason....a motive on why Michael stalked his family members through the intire franchise.For the rest, Scout(Laurie) did AMAZING! In the the first one I was like she cannot act.But girl done had some training or something because she has become incredible! When Danielle(annie) is dying.....I almost cried from her emotions! Plus I love Daniellle so much I wanted to cry! The whole aspect fitted to me. We never knew why he went after his family through all ten films and now I feel like we do.It made since! It was Michael's mind that led to this because he needed to finish it so they could be a family again! Yes his fucked up beyond but... didn't we already know that!? It just gives a reason or motive on why Michael does what he does! I loved it! It was the best since H2O and before that wasn't much count besides the one with Danielle.I thought Rob did everything right with HIS vision & put heart and soul to the characters we love especially Michael, DANIELLE, and Laurie.It was a simple twist on a legend that just really made since to me.I mean come on didn't all of us who grew up watching the Halloween films wonder why his family!? Well I think Rob showed his reason in his way and to me it totally worked! Loved it I just hate my love Danielle died but it was showed with grace between her and laurie.It was heart breaking and loving! GO ROB! I thought u did a great job!
I just got back from seeing it in theaters, and I have to say it was one of the best movies I seen all year. The acting was great, and the gore was amazing too. This film is worth watching if you haven't seen it yet. I loved every minute of it.
This movie is totally the one of the worst sequal remake ever! I seriously had so much hope for this movie and it was just not at all great. Rob Zombie i love you but u just screwed up this 1. I really thought u shouldnt of had a remake sequal for this i totally lost all hope for u now and for the sake of the horror fans dont make a sequal for this movie just please dont the sake of the horror fans will thank u. Please dont see this 2at the movies u will save $1! Ur welcome.This movie was ok just dont go to the movies to see it rent it if you really want to see it.
It was odd, yet entertaining. I've never seen Michael Myers that intense before. The major problem I had with it was the flashbacks with Myers' mom and the whole 'kill for mommy' motive a la Jason - wasn't feeling it.
Always breaks my heart to see soo much hate on this website.
Respect to everyone who stays positive, even when criticizing the film.
GOOD FOLLOW UP TOO THE ROB ZOMBIE REMAKE, MICHAEL HAS NEVER BEEN MORE VICIOUS OR BRUTAL IN ANY OTHER HALLOWEEN MOVIE THEN HE IS HERE, DEFINATLEY WORTH SEEING FULL OF NICE BLOOD AND GUTS MOMENTS, AND THE CONCEITED DR LOOMIS IS A NICE CHANGE OF PACE FOR THE CHARACTER THEN THE SAME OLD DONALD PLESANCE LOOMIS
Posted By: halloweenfan at 5:31pm, August 28, 2009
I loved the Halloween remake. Sure their were problems but it was enjoyable. But this is So much better. It blows the first out of the water! It was the most fun I had viewing a horror movie in at least a two years! I'll start with the good.
PROS:
Michael's Kills (brutal and painfull to watch)
Storyline
Beginning Scene(even though it was a dream)
Brad Dourif (his acting is top notch)
The Bleak Soundtrack
Scouts Performace (really step up compare to the first)
CONS:
Loomis (He is a media whore, rather had him dead.)
Flashbacks(Way to Many)
I didn't want to make to long of a list so I made a condensed version. If you want to have a entertaining, edge of your seat movie go see this. It surpassed all my expectations!
Look, the fact is we go see these movies to see Big Mike fuck shit up and he did point blank period. A little better than the original remake.I will admit that little myers and his mom were kind of annoying, but all in all Michael is still kickin ass and takin names.
johnmarroon ur an idiot
if u think this movie was bad
WTF R U WATCHING PART 3 FOR?
worst FUCKING movie EVER myres is not even in that
if u think 3 is better then the remake u do not know your horror go to another bicth ass site
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LET ME START OF BY SAYING THAT I LOVED
ROB ZOMBIES HALLOWEEN!!! IT IS MY FAVORITE
HORROR MOVIE EVER!!!!
NOW THAT THAT IS DONE.
MICHAEL MYERS IN HALLOWEEN II IS SUCH A BADASS!
HE STABS HIS FUCKING VICTIMS LIKE ITS NOTHING.
AND IN HIS MIND IT IS NOTHING!
HALLOWEEN II IS LOUD,HOT,AND BLOODY FUCKING DISGUSTING!! THERE ARE SOOO MANY FUCKING KILLS IN THIS MOVIE ITS UNBELIVEABLE. THIS MOVIE MADE ME JUMP SO MANY TIMES EVEN WHEN I KNEW IT WAS COMMING. AND WHEN DANIELLE HARRIS DIED I WAS ABOUT TO CRY, IT WAS SO SAD!
ANYWAY....
GO SEE HALLOWEEN II!
ITS BAD FUCKING ASS!
The review here makes some good points about H2. It is quite enthralling and you find yourself greatly anticipating the next scene. I do think he misses the point behind Loomis’ role; unlike H1 Loomis now “chases” Myers with his book tour (or more accurately is chased by Myers).
You learn the public’s reaction through Loomis’ scenes and how even those close to him are made uncomfortable by the whole mess.
Also, Myer’s older sister wasn’t in his delusions because he never cared for her, it was only Laurie and his mother he loved so they are a part of his “family” vision.
And as for throw away murders, the scene in the field sets up Michael’s use of his mask, when and why he wears it.
Posted By: SeeScottSpaz at 3:37pm, August 28, 2009
I am a huge Rob Zombie fan. I love his music, his writing, his directing. But I hated this movie. I loved halloween 1. Zombie's new DP is terrible. I had to squint and try and find out what the hell was going on when he was stabbing people. I felt as if there was no take away from this film. Nothing truly memorable. Mikey kills random people who pertain nothing to the plot. We don't care about any of these characters. Any of the extras or "stars". There's no character build up at all. And the ending was just overall cheesy and dumb. I will still continue to go see Zombie's work, but i hope he starts doing more of his original stuff, I can't wait to see superbeasto and t-rex. I have no idea how this movie tops the other one. Mr. Disgusting writes terrible reviews and spends half of the review complimenting himself. Can anybody else on this site write a decent review?
Ok, this was a tough one. So tough in fact that I actually had to sleep on this movie before writing a review of it. I was so angry when I left the theater that if I had written it immediately after my midnight viewing, it would have been an incomprehensible mess of expletives and venom towards Rob Zombie and Dimension as a whole.
So I slept on it and decided I would knock this out today with a clear head. First off, this movie is a mess. It's loud and repulsive and peppered with not even ONE decent or redeemable character. The deaths in the movie are brutal for sure but I found myself so desensitized to the whole affair that I was repulsed while I yawned. I didn't think that was possible but apparently it is because I was doing it throughout the last 45 minutes of this film. The plot is nonexsistant or minimal at best.
I guess I wouldn't be as mad about this movie if it weren't released under the Halloween name but it was so I am. Rob Zombie has so missed the point of the original film that it's almost laughable that he's so into this series at all. The original from 1978 was not a gore filled slasher film. It was suspense film. If Hitchcock had done a slasher it would have been Halloween. There is no motivation or reason for Michael's actions he's simply there. The fact that Zombie is so fixated on one minimal aspect of the original (violence) upsets me that he was allowed to make not one but TWO films that bear the same name. Brutal violence just for the hell of it is not effective in any capacity except to repulse the viewer and in effect take them out of the film. I really think that Rob Zombie is simply a product of our times. These days we always need to know everything, nothing can be left to our own imagination and Zombie took this mantra and ran with it, trying to give a reason to the madness of Michael. I thought he might have learned his lesson after the abysmal first film but after watching this tragedy of a sequel it clearly shows his obsession. He needs to know why Michael would do this and he attempts to explore it so deeply that it almost becomes laughable. Sheri Moon Zombie as Deborah with a white horse and child Michael controlling him to kill? No thanks.
The movie is at least competently made with the 16mm film used expertly to set the tone. The score is really well done as well with Zombie at least showing his skill with music knowing when and when not to use cues. Those are truly the lone bright spots of the film.
I don't want to give too much away so i've purposefully left most of the plot details out because this movie really needs to be experienced before judgment can be passed. I firmly believe this movie will be even more polarizing than the original remake in the sense that this is Zombie's true vision of Halloween without the constraints of established backstory to work off he was able to create his own film and his own interpretation of this franchise. It just (in not so eloquent words but words i'm sure Zombie will appreciate due to his penchant for toilet dialogue): fuckin' sucks (in hillbilly accent of course!)
Gore for the sake of gore simply isn't interesting. There's no effective, efficient build-up to the scenes of undeterred violence, and without that suspense, there's no release. You're just watching a slaughter, which has no drama in a one-sided boxing match and even less in a movie featuring a knife-weilding giant with an inhuman pain threshold.
The kicker here is that Zombie has actually created a small shred of a story that beats anything in the Michael Myers films since John Carpenter's 1979 original. He began exploring the psychology of Myers in his remake two years ago. For the first time, we saw Michael Myers as a child, and though it's a heavy-handed and rudimentary explanation, Zombie does make a case for how the killer got that way. In fact, the origin story elements of Halloween were what made it stand out.
Here again, the writer-director looks inside the mind of the killer, but now also his only survivor from the first film, Laurie Strode (Scout Taylor-Compton). There are a couple of surprises down that dark road, so far as you go in not thinking about how the movie might end. It's all illustrated through dream sequences and flashbacks, which are a decent device for such material.
But Zombie's impulse is to stack up the bodies, which is a shame. His strength has never been writing, and it's just as obvious in this film, where he actually has an opportunity to make the film something different, but instead delivers us more of the same.
Poor Scout Taylor-Compton is actually a pretty good scream queen, and Zombie really puts her through the paces. It really makes you wonder what would happen if she got a second act in the story to read. Better luck next time. And because there are no other performances that are supposed to matter, Zombie barely bothered to write those beyond dialogue that sets up another entrance from the masked behemoth with the knife.
Halloween II is being advertised as a completion of Rob Zombie's "extreme vision of terror." Well, most of that is correct. Can't really say there's much of a vision, however.
Posted By: JohnMarrone at 11:23am, August 28, 2009
ABSOLUTE SHITTTT - I walked out and went home and watched HALLOWEEN III with my woman and got laid. Why they let him calls this Halloween anything is beyond me Mr Akkad!!! Honor your family and kill this fucking franchise. Oh wait - you did by hiring on Rob Zombie.
Kills were good but maybe if it was someone else doing them. Absolute shit. You people praising this have no filmmaking taste whatsoever. Zombie is the worst director of all time, running neck and neck with Uwe Boll.
Should have been called simply The Wrath of Michael Myers, if you wanted to stand alone. You called this Halloween (something) and stand amongst the harvest of filmmaking CRAP that is everything Halloween IV and after.
Danielle Harris is the only good thing to come from these films.
Somebody jail Zombie and STOP him from making more films. This shit makes me want to quit covering horror. Im fucking nauseus.
Posted By: slipknot611 at 10:50am, August 28, 2009
This movie made me very sad and ashamed of my love of the original remake. Watching this, it truly seems like Rob Zombie got seriously lucky the first time around. What we have here is all the brutality with none of the damned STORY. Too much Sherri Moon to the point of irritation, and her acting was wooden at best. Most of the kills, though brutal, were even necessary, as the victims for the most part had little to do with the overall scheme of things. Why, oh GOD why, was Loomis such a tool in this installment? Why was the best part of the movie at the very beginning? Seeing a trend here? I had far more questions when it was over, and literally sat scratching my head when the credits rolled. Every negative thing I've read and tried to defend Rob Zombie against, he nailed down in blood as fact. He has talent, a knack for making movies, as his visual style is pretty good... but I simply don't think he's the proper fit for Halloween anymore. This movie stunk to high hell, and I can honestly say that the only reason to watch it is for the awesome kills... even if they didn't serve any real purpose to the story.
Posted By: CrazyDENNIS at 10:20am, August 28, 2009
Umm. some Parts were great and other were like come on now. little michael looked nothing like the other one. even tho it really didnt matter. the white horse shit was pretty gay. im a huge fan of zombies movies but this one seemed like he deff did it for the money. but It was quite different id say haha nothing like the original halloweens.
WOW. After the movie, everybody I went with looked at each other and said WTF was that!? I heard some people walking out saying how painful the movie was.
I couldn't believe how bad this movie was. The best scene in the whole movie was a freakn dream. We get Michael walking for about an hour. I was going to yell if there was one more scene of Michael walking through fields.
And Loomis!?! OK Zombie..this is your take. But you took a loved character and made him completely useless. AND a complete turd. How many Halloween movies do you root for Loomis to die?! Cut out Loomis's scenes and the movie is better (still would suck though). Laurie was annoying.....the biggest bipolar case in history. She's a wreck in one scene and then dancing around in the next. She reminded me of Sheri Moon...which is not a good thing.
Which brings me to the Sheri and young Mikey. It's worse than I thought. I think Zombie was trying to give her as much screen time as possible. It was just so freakn odd...and not in a good way. In many scenes...you don't just see Michael...you see the three of them walking around together. I just want to see Michael...not Sheri acting like she's in a high school production.
Michael wasn't much of a presence on screen. He grunts strangely. Even his stabbing is a little odd (and way over the top). He walks like any Joe taking a stroll. Nothing memorable at all about the character and they did NOTHING to set him apart from any killer.
Scares?? ZERO. Tension? ZERO. Most of the kills are so up close that you can't see what's going on. Most of the character scenes are painful.
So much is just bizarre about the film. There's a scene of one of the guys who is taking Michael's body away...it's a closeup of him saying fuck over and over. It was just dumb and went on uncomfortably long. And if you thought it was stupid to have young Mikey wear the mask in the original, they actually TOP it in this!! Sheriff Bracket must make 10 grand a year..because they live in a shithole where they paint pentagrams on the doors. Michael rolls a car over! The list goes on and on. I thought this movie was supposed to bring the holiday of Halloween back, but it had a minor role.
Wait for the credits for the Halloween score..because that's when you get to hear it.
Any discussion of artistic merit about this film is bogus. At least Rob is done with the series (oh god please let him be). Rob has said we haven't seen anything like this. And that's good that we haven't. It's like you have to be on something to get any enjoyment out of it. A complete trainwreck that should give a clear signal to Hollywood...DO NOT GIVE ZOMBIE FREE REIGN!!!
Just got home from see H2....maybe a 5.5 out of 10 for me.
Spoilers!
Pros:
Michael Myers is badass in this film
Michael eats parts of a dog paying homage to the original halloween series.
Lauries dreams were pretty sick, especially the first dream.
Bracket gets a lot more screen time
Michael bashes in Uncle Coffins face! finally, someone had to!
Scouts acting is a lot better in this film than in the first and I actually liked her character in this film a little more.
And of course I enjoyed some pairs of tits now and then
Cons:
Over the top cussing (Seriously I cuss a lot but in this movie its too much, doesn't even sound natural sometimes)
Loomis sucks in this movie, asshole with an ego and tries to save the day only to get killed very easily without one last word or two
Michael kills Loomis! wtf?
Shows Michael face with beard and all too much in the frame, should have not shown his face so long in scenes.
Some of the killing scenes are too shaky and you can't really see whats going on sometimes
Bracket doesnt even cry or yell "No! NO! NOO!" like he does in the trailers after discovering Annies body
Laurie is connected to Michael mentally like in H5
Sherry Moon Ghost zombie and young michael are so out of place, in fact while I was watching it I kept thinking that they were the main reason the film suffered (but without sherry and young mikey RZ wouldn't have been able to pull off possibly the worst ending in the entire series)
The main reason I dislike this film was because of the God awful ending
Overall this film didn't feel like a Halloween film at all really, it would have been a lot better without sherry, young mikey and the terrible ending. Michael Myers was seriously badass in this movie though, thats the only thing that really made the film enjoyable for me. Michael seriously fucked shit up in this film, great killing moments in this film.
i have never been a big fan of rob zombies till i saw his twist on HALLOWEEN. i fell in love with his view on michael. and he did it again. H2 was fucking amazing. 10 times better than part 1 (remake....sorry the orginal is a classic and will never be less) and robs idea of "its time to bring her home" is fucking awesome! cannot wait to see it agian! and buy it! and watch it agian! and then watch it again after that! i had medium low expectations on this one, but damn! . i saw the premiere of FD4 then we drove to a theatre by my house and saw H2 at midnight. tongiht waw fucking awesome! and family is forever! (fd4 i giv a 6 outa 10...h2 is a 8 outa 10)
It is brutal, dark, bleak. Filmed in 16mm and grainy as hell, but in that way you cherished the 70's and early 80's horror films. The writing and themes explored are excellent, the acting above average, the cameos are not as much of a distraction. The use of music is outstanding, and lack thereof too. Silence plays a big part. The whole film feels more gritty, more personal than the first one. And while some may not like the surrealism of the piece, I thought it was wonderful. I went in expecting alot, quite frankly and I feel like I got it.
Rob Zombie's halloween 2 is the worst entry yet.
trailer trash, over use of profanity, hobo-myers- douchebag loomis- angelic visions of mommy and a white horse...the list goes on and on. To say that this sequel was pointless, would be an understatement.
Rob Zombie has no respect for the established characters nor the horror genre in general.
Cant wait to see how he fucks up The Blob.
sigh...
This is not the greatest movie ever. This has some far out scenes that will leave you like "wtf" (sometimes a good thing, sometimes bad). Going into this thinking that you are going to see the future of horror is just a dumb idea on so many levels.
It was good tho. The horse thing and the mmom thing pfft whatever. There are some great kills. I'm talking sick sick stuff.
yea i went to see the midnite show...i liked the movie other than the fact of the whole concept of the white horse and the mom being in the movie..it seemed like rob zombie is tryin to make myers seem super natural...i mean come on this isnt a nightmare on elm st. movie...but the kills were pretty good i liked were he stomped on the guys face till it turned flat. sorry if i spoiled it for sum people lol too bad
Not the epic I secretly wished it would be, but a pretty solid slasher all around. The fans clinging hard to the Carpenter version aren't going to like it, because Zombie does make it his own (for better or worse). The script isn't strong enough to make the ending resonate the way Zombie wants it to -- H2 isn't shooting so much to be a "horror" film as it is an incredibly violent and bloody tragedy -- but I respect him for trying. For all its flaws (and there are more than a few) I'd much rather H2 again than the crap films whose trailers ran in front of it (I'm looking at you, Saw VI and Sorority Row!)
Oh, and the much-feared "hobo" Myers is AWESOME. Though some will loathe it, Zombie and Tyler Mane came up with a fantastic way to re-invent the character. Gone is Carpenter's emotionless, almost-ethereal killer; in his stead is a seething mass of rage and violence that explodes with incredible ferocity. The sheer physical, brutal nature of this Michael is something we haven't seen in the films before. If Carpenter's Michael was a ghost, Zombie's Michael is a hungry lion that has you cornered: It's bigger than you, stronger than you, ruled by a compulsive instinct to rip you to shreds, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it ...
In a world where people expect a decent horror film,
One chilly summer night, a night just like tonight, I saw one of the worst films ever.
And that my friends was Halloween 2.
Now let me start by saying that If you are going to remake/ re-imagine a movie it needs to have some shred of similarity to its original counterpart. Halloween a film by Rob Zombie did just this, had many of the orginal characters with some new plot twists and great effects.
Then Rob started drinking heavily and we got Halloween 2 complete with White Horses, Sheri Moon Zombie and yep you guessed it Wierd Al Yankovich, WTF you might ask. Cause I sure did.
The first thing that is utterly perplexing is the lack of concept of time in this movie.
Things that should take no time take forever and things that should take forever are done in split seconds. Like when he kills the cop out in front of the sheriffs house, how the fuck did he manage to get all the way upstairs in 2 seconds flat? let alone get past Annie Brackett without her seeing or hearing a thing.
Lets not forget how Michael decided to roam the countryside for a year just for good measure, Michael Go Home, and take Rob Zombie with you.
Secondly, why does Michael now feel the need to completely mutilate his victims rather than his classic stab and go? Oh and his grunting is sexyy tell ur friends.
Finally anyone who thought this movie was great, needs help
Im renting Jason X to get my mind off how bad this was.
it was very very different...definitely interesting and creative, i'll give it that. the gore was insane, this movie was twice as brutal as the 07 remake. the scenes with sheri moon zombie and young michael were a little stupid, they seemed out of place and totally random, but they didn't bother me too much. the acting was just as good/decent as the last one, only this time i found that there were a lot more characters I hated such as the coroners, and dr. loomis. the endind...didn't like it too much, but overall the movie was good. better than final destination 4 that's for sure
the only thing that could possibly be worse.. is if rob zombie thinks that he is going to be clever and make halloween three: season of the witch with lori strode as the killer.... get it .. season of the witch .. if thats were he is going with this ending... im going to find rob zombie and punch him in the face.. im not kidding. at all ..
what the fuck was robzombie thinking.
seriously.
i dont even know were to begin.
ok so ill start with the good (not much)... actually fuck the good.. the only good part about this movie .. is the name.. what rob zombie did here was take the title of a great film and names from that movie and combined them with an empty film real that he shit inside of and handed to dimension...
now before this i was a fan of rob zombie .. i even liked the first halloween remake.. but this .. this is the worst thing i have ever seen he completely ruins dr. loomis, he ruins michael .. i mean the reason michael was scary the reason he is who he is .. is because he is a souless killing machine with no emotion .. no feeling just cold and evil .. his only drive is to finish killing his entire family and anyone in the way ... or just anyone in general .. instead now we have sheri moon zombie with a white horse leaning over his shoulder saying go ahead michael kill ... and micael myers going mommy can we please be a fmily agian .. like wtf .. WTF .. my brain is going to explode this makes me so mad.. he just ruined the entire charecter of michael its not even the same anymore .. and why the fuck is it a different kid playing the young version of michael .. i honestly think even the little kid from the first remake was like "rob i think your taking this in the wrong direction and uhhh i want nothing to do with it bye... oh yeah p.s. your wife doesnt have to be in every single movie.. especially when it ruins the entire fucking film"
seriously rob zombie .. FUCK YOU.
i never thought i would say that i would rather watch final destination than halloween .. but..
Note:IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE EITHER ALREADY SEEN HALLOWEEN II OR YOU JUST DON'T CARE IF YOU KNOW MAJOR SPOILERS!
This is my review of the movie i just got back from the midnight showing.
The movie opens on a definition of the meaning of white horse (spiritually)
i loved the whole white horse thing but it was so random when it showed up.
after a quick scene with the new actor for little Michael with Sheri Moon Zombie (Deborah Myers)
she gives him a plastic white horse (not life size) and he explains a dream that he had about the white horse and Deborah walking towards him and saying she will take him home witch is important in the movie
i loved that whole little scene and right after the title HALLOWEEN II with the screaming of laurie after she shot michael then she is walking the rode and gets taken to the hospital by sheriff bracket when she gets to the hospital it is so gory and grose i had to look away a nice little scene i loved with laurie walking into annies hospital room was nice. michael kills the nurse and laurie runs and it was VERY suspenseful with her cast and all michael kills one more person named budy and laurie wakes up from the dream im amusing this really all happend but she dreamt of it. laurie now lives with annie which is really good
lauire has all these crazy disturbing creepy dreams witch made me uncomfortable. michael sees him as a little boy and his mom (ghostly and telling him to bring laurie home) so we see several scenes with michael walking his long journey to haddonfield he kills 2 hillbillies and the daughter of one that complain about him in the corn field.
yea they have to nerve to beat him with bats. i loved that whole scene but micahel stabs so many times
THEY ARE DEAD STOP! lol. (all of this stuff is not quite in order im just commenting on most scenes)
a scene i absolutly loved was lyndas dad pulls a gun out on loomis at his book sighning and blaming him for his daughters death the cops break it up.
laurie finds out she is really Angel Myers and she goes crazy. she goes to her friend mias house and goes partying where her friend harley dies in a van along with her boyfriend.
let me skip to michaels attack on annie
she sees him in the bath room and runs its all in slow mo and doesn't show any thing laurie comes home with mia and sees the mess and we get VERY fast cut flash backs of what happend
laurie is their with annie while mia goes to call police she gets killed and there is a very sad scene with laurie and annie.
yes annie dies :( but it was very sad and michael chases laurie out of the house into the woods and laurie finds a guy to help her she gets in the car michael flips it over and gets laurie to a shed where she sees her real mom sheri moon zombie and the little michael holding her down loomis looks on the news and rushes over
DR loomis dies cut up and stabbed way too many times
laurie hugs michael and says i love you brother michael begins to raise his knife but then puts it down
laurie goes psycho on him and stabs him so many times.
laurie walks out of the shed (with alot of poilce and helicopters around) in his mask
it was freaky
and now... to.. the ending
which i have mixed feelings
laurie. in. insain asylum she sees the horse and gives an evil smile at the camera the end.
first of all i give this movie a 10 of 10 i despite the ending didnt really like the ending but there is so much i wanna know what happens next
this movie was terrific and creepy (by the way i left out alot of things)
but here are my negatives
TOO MUCH SLOW MO
only hear the halloween theme at the end credits
but overall this movie was just a surprisingly great movie
i know that alot of people will NOT like it but i love it.
Just got back and I have to say that I really liked this movie. That being said I'm not sure if it felt like a Halloween movie. I think thats a good thing because why restart something if its only going to go down the same road.
I've read that Zombie was saying that this was more like Rejects more than another Halloween but to me it was more like The Terminator. It had that tense chase feel to it.
I have to say that I loved the kills. Really brutal and MM didn't just stab someone he sliced them to bits. Very brutal...
Halloween 2 is a complete masterpiece compared to Rob Zombies remake. Finally, Zombie made a completely different film..uncomparable to it's predecessors.
Blood..guts and gore..the cinematography was completely brutal.
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That said, Halloween II is a complete and utter pile of garbage.
I won tickets to attend the premiere of Halloween II last night. The cast was in attendance and Rob Zombie introduced the movie describing it as "A Bitch To Make" and "Fucking Awesome."
I'm certain he meant that it's a bitch to watch and fucking awful.
Let me start with the good parts of the film before I launch into my diatribe.
There were some great shots. Really uniquely framed and set up scenes that really make it captivating. However, there are only about 3 or 4 of those shots and unfortunately, what happens during these scenes pretty much ruins the effect the cinematography has.
Also, the music is great. Tyler Bates score is quite good. It's atmospheric and appropriate.
So hats off to Cinematographer Brandon Trost and Composer Tyler Bates for providing the only good parts of the film.
To call this movie convoluted is an understatement. It's a complete mess. The acting is good for the most part. Especially from Brad Douriff and a subdued Danielle Harris. Scout Taylor-Compton spends most of the movie crying or looking like a scrub.
I admired Rob Zombies previous entry. He made Michael scary again but in the sequel, he fails miserably. The movie is not scary at all. It's not intense or even thrilling. There is nothing entertaining about it whatsoever.
Halloween II plays like a final chapter. It certainly has a sense of finality to it. If this is indeed the final Halloween film we'll see, it's a shame it had to end like this. A hyper-violent, muddled, confusing, piece of garbage.
Rob Zombie has failed the fans, the franchise and most importantly the legend of Michael Myers. He has taken iconic characters and ruined them, making the Loomis character completely unrecognizable and extremely loathsome. His attempt to be original is a spectacular failure.
2009 has been a bad year for Horror Icons. Friday the 13th was awful. Halloween II is even worse, in fact it's the worst of the entire franchise. That includes Resurrection and Season of the Witch.
I'm truly frightened for Nightmare On Elm Street.
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